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markoliver
12-25-2016, 11:42 AM
I do hope someone can help remove the veil of darkness.
I have finished my manuscript entitled 'A yogis cure for arthritis' including 14 day diet plan to recovery and ashtanga yoga practice manual' The book is around 26,000 words with around 120 images of asana (yoga postures) I am confused who I should use to self publish, I have contacted Simon and Shuster and Partridge but a friend suggested I stay away from the big boys and go with a small independent (maybe notion press) who is likely to give more time and effort making my book a success. There are many yoga books on yoga but only a couple on arthritis which seem to be targeted at old people and showing simple stretches, my book is different because I challenged the disease, worked it out and beat it through diet and yoga by practice ashtanga (power) yoga which is a quite demanding.
I look forward to receiving information from all you experienced ones out there who can point me in the right direction..
Hari Ohmmmmm

cornflake
12-25-2016, 11:57 AM
I do hope someone can help remove the veil of darkness.
I have finished my manuscript entitled 'A yogis cure for arthritis' including 14 day diet plan to recovery and ashtanga yoga practice manual' The book is around 26,000 words with around 120 images of asana (yoga postures) I am confused who I should use to self publish, I have contacted Simon and Shuster and Partridge but a friend suggested I stay away from the big boys and go with a small independent (maybe notion press) who is likely to give more time and effort making my book a success. There are many yoga books on yoga but only a couple on arthritis which seem to be targeted at old people and showing simple stretches, my book is different because I challenged the disease, worked it out and beat it through diet and yoga by practice ashtanga (power) yoga which is a quite demanding.
I look forward to receiving information from all you experienced ones out there who can point me in the right direction..
Hari Ohmmmmm

Hi; welcome to AW.

There are several things here, foremost that you mention your interest in self publishing several times but then talk about trade publishing companies.

Twenty-five thousands words isn't book-length. It's a short novella if it were fiction; I'm not sure what the deal is with non-fic, but it's so small I'd imagine any trade publishing options would be limited. That said... it's nonfiction, so do you have a proposal? Is that even something the publishers you approached deal with? Nonfic is more acceptable agentless, but there are specific divisions and publishers that do it.

There are a lot of errors in your post; have you had your thing beta read? Have you edited it very thoroughly?

On top of all of that -- you likely won't find anyone in trade publishing willing to put out something that says it can cure a specific disease, at all.

So... there is always self-publishing, and there's a whole self-publishing forum here on AW. It's a lot of work but things like length won't be an issue.

regdog
12-25-2016, 04:11 PM
Porting to Self Publishing

Old Hack
12-26-2016, 01:22 AM
Porting to Self Publishing

Thank you, reg.


I do hope someone can help remove the veil of darkness.
I have finished my manuscript entitled 'A yogis cure for arthritis' including 14 day diet plan to recovery and ashtanga yoga practice manual' The book is around 26,000 words with around 120 images of asana (yoga postures)

If you're claiming to be able to cure arthritis, you have to be able to show scientific proof of that or risk legal action. If you're actually only making people with arthritis feel a little better, then make that clear.

At 26,000 words your book might not be long enough to work for trade publishers.

Are the images high definition? Do you have permission from the copyright owner to use them in your book? Do you have releases for anyone who appears in any photos you're planning to use? And do these permissions and releases cover all commercial possibilities (eg print and digital editions, all territories, serial rights and so on)?


I am confused who I should use to self publish, I have contacted Simon and Shuster and Partridge but a friend suggested I stay away from the big boys and go with a small independent (maybe notion press) who is likely to give more time and effort making my book a success.

S&S is a trade publisher. They will not help you if you want to self publish.

I'd be wary of Partridge: read this to see why (http://accrispin.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/a-partridge-in-penguin-tree.html).

I don't know Notion Press but suspect they're much the same as all the other self publishing service providers which charge writers to publish. You can publish your book yourself, you know, without using any of these services. It's usually cheaper, and just as effective.


There are many yoga books on yoga but only a couple on arthritis which seem to be targeted at old people and showing simple stretches, my book is different because I challenged the disease, worked it out and beat it through diet and yoga by practice ashtanga (power) yoga which is a quite demanding.
I look forward to receiving information from all you experienced ones out there who can point me in the right direction..
Hari Ohmmmmm

Again, unless you have properly tested your claims you are going to be in deep water if you publish them. It could be very dangerous for people to follow your advice without your first having made sure it holds true.

Catherine
12-26-2016, 09:11 PM
Greetings! I see you listed your location as India. Iím not really sure how much of this you can use in your location, but I hope it is helpful. Others have stated their concerns. They have a wealth of valuable experience. Please take heed.

My experience is very limited: self-published coloring books through CreateSpace (CS) and several unpublished works with Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP). Both are associated with Amazon.

For self-publishing, there are several ďprint on demandĒ services available. Do your research and chose the one that works best for you. The advantage of CS for me was very low cost to get my book published. There are options for black and white or color interior. Mine are black and white. The paper quality is adequate (but not great) for a coloring book. For color interior, CS uses a heavier paper weight which comes at a higher cost.

Overall, I found CS fairly simple to work with. The hardest part was formatting the pictures. Since you have a lot of pictures, you may have the same issue. CS customer support was helpful. When I had to contact the customer support for KDP, it seemed more like a robot response vs. an actual person answering a question. Once you have your files uploaded and proofed at CS, you have the option to go over to KDP to publish an e-book.

If you go to KDP first, they also have an option for physical copies of your book, but there are some draw backs. One is no proof copies. The other is once you publish on there, you canít switch over to CS. There is a free e-book from KDP about self-publishing your e-book. Both CS and KDP have a lot of information available on their sites.

If you want to go with trade publishing, you could look in Writerís Market to find a publishing house that would be a good fit for your work. Typically for non-fiction, you submit a book proposal following the publisherís requirements. There are many good books Iíve read on writing query letters, finding an agent, and general writing. If this all seems confusing, the library may be the best place to start. I donít think the information about writing and publishing is veiled. However, itís a whole industry you are trying to learn about. Most likely you have taken a lot of time to put your manuscript together. For the greatest chance of success, you would be wise to learn more before you put your work out there. Best of luck to you.

markoliver
12-30-2016, 07:06 AM
Thanks for your reply..

I have put a disclaimer at the beginning saying, all views are the opinion of the author and his personal experience, should this not suffice ? this is my life experience with the disease, I am a qualified acupuncturist and yoga teacher..

All images are high def and are actually me demonstrating the poses.

S&S have a division called archway for self publishing...

markoliver
12-30-2016, 07:10 AM
Thanks for your reply,

I dont mention trade publishing, I mention S&S who have a self publishing division called Archway sorry for the confusion.

I have had my manuscript professionally edited...

cornflake
12-30-2016, 08:13 AM
No, that doesn't suffice. You're claiming to cure something. That's not an opinion.

markoliver
12-30-2016, 08:14 AM
Conrflake & Regdog

Can you provide a link to the self publishing forum ? I have done a search and nothing comes up !

Thanks in advance

Helix
12-30-2016, 08:19 AM
Conrflake & Regdog

Can you provide a link to the self publishing forum ? I have done a search and nothing comes up !

Thanks in advance

You're already in it (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?47-Self-Publishing-Print-Digital-Papyrus-or-Clay)! Regdog shifted the thread.

markoliver
12-30-2016, 08:20 AM
But I cured myself !! is that not evidence enough after being diagnosed by the NHS almost 30 years ago and told by the specialist that I would be in a wheelchair in 10 years if I did not take his prescription drugs ....

What is your suggestion, change the title or a more comprehensive disclaimer, after all this is only a title ?

markoliver
12-30-2016, 08:22 AM
Ah ok, new to this did not realise I had been shifted, thanks for pointing this out...

Helix
12-30-2016, 08:24 AM
But I cured myself !! is that not evidence enough after being diagnosed by the NHS almost 30 years ago and told by the specialist that I would be in a wheelchair in 10 years if I did not take his prescription drugs ....

What is your suggestion, change the title or a more comprehensive disclaimer, after all this is only a title ?

But the readers only have your word for both the diagnosis and the cure and, sadly, there are plenty of charlatans about.

Polenth
12-30-2016, 09:30 AM
But I cured myself !! is that not evidence enough after being diagnosed by the NHS almost 30 years ago and told by the specialist that I would be in a wheelchair in 10 years if I did not take his prescription drugs ....

What is your suggestion, change the title or a more comprehensive disclaimer, after all this is only a title ?

"How I Cured My Arthritis" is not the same as "A Cure for Arthritis". The former is your story. The latter is saying you can cure other people, which is where it gets tricky. I'd suggest focusing it more on your own experiences, not what you think it can do for others. I'm sure similar books have disclaimers, so check them out and see how they word it.

On that note, it does sound rather short. I'd expect a book like this to explain all the pictures, have your own life story mixed in, stuff like that. That'd run to a lot of words.

As far as publishing goes, companies that offer to do it all for you are rarely a good idea. You'd be better off getting anything you need (editing, cover art) separately. Then uploading it yourself directly to the retailers. Amazon is a good starting point. CreateSpace for print and KDP for Kindle.

Old Hack
12-30-2016, 01:26 PM
I have put a disclaimer at the beginning saying, all views are the opinion of the author and his personal experience, should this not suffice ? this is my life experience with the disease, I am a qualified acupuncturist and yoga teacher..

Disclaimers won't protect you from the lawsuits which could arise when people follow your guidance and don't find themselves cured.

To claim a cure, you're going to need proper trials and real results, involving a large number of people.


All images are high def and are actually me demonstrating the poses.

Then you didn't take the photos, right? The copyright lies with the person who took the photos. If you don't have their written permission to use them, get it now. Or use different photos.


S&S have a division called archway for self publishing...

But you specified S&S, Not Archway. Details matter.

S&S is still a trade publisher. Archway is a "self publishing company" (http://www.archwaypublishing.com/): but it's not. Strictly speaking it's a vanity publisher. It's "powered by Author Solutions". They charge high prices for slapdash services. You aren't published by S&S when you use them, you won't have any proper distribution or editing: I wouldn't even consider them.


I have had my manuscript professionally edited...

Who did your editing?


But I cured myself !! is that not evidence enough after being diagnosed by the NHS almost 30 years ago and told by the specialist that I would be in a wheelchair in 10 years if I did not take his prescription drugs ....

That's no evidence at all.

All it qualifies you to do is write a memoir of your experiences. It does not qualify you to claim you've been cured. To do that you'll have to provide x-rays of your arthritic joints and show that the damage arthritis did to them has been reversed--which can't be done. You'll have to provide details of blood tests which show that the arthritis is clear. And all sorts of other stuff (I am not a medic, so don't know what that other stuff is).

You can reasonably claim that you are now symptom-free, if that's the truth.

You cannot reasonably claim that yoga has cured you and will cure everyone else who tries it, because you haven't proved that's the case.


What is your suggestion, change the title or a more comprehensive disclaimer, after all this is only a title ?

I suggest you rewrite the whole book so that it's a memoir rather than a how-to book. You can include the information about the yoga you do, of course; but you can't claim that it's a cure, or that this book will show people how to cure themselves through yoga. You'll have to stress that you're not offering a cure, just recounting your own experiences.

I'm sorry to be such a wet blanket. I just want you to keep yourself safe, and not risk the health of anyone who might read your book.

mccardey
12-30-2016, 03:11 PM
But I cured myself !! is that not evidence enough after being diagnosed by the NHS almost 30 years ago and told by the specialist that I would be in a wheelchair in 10 years if I did not take his prescription drugs ....
What is your suggestion, change the title or a more comprehensive disclaimer, after all this is only a title ?This is One Person's Experience. Whether you cured yourself, or whether you were misdiagnosed or whether you're in remission or whether your body is good at healing this kind of thing is something that only time will tell.

I want to start the next sentence with "I don't want to be harsh" but actually I find I do want to be harsh because I have lived the experience of being a mother with a child who has juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (which is tough, but not as tough as being the child who has the arthritis) and if there's one thing I came to object to it's people who claim to have found a cure. When you find a cure BigPharma will buy it is my experience. And then you write the book about your cure.

ETA: Mod, feel free to delete this if I've been too harsh.

ETA 2: My son was told that he'd be in a wheelchair by age 15 and unable to lie in a bed by age 20. That was wrong. It's not that we followed or didn't follow the advice - it's just that the prediction was wrong. Other predictions were less wrong. Time has told us what was going to happen. He got better, but he still has arthritis. It's just a Thing. Life happens.

Old Hack
12-30-2016, 03:37 PM
ETA: Mod, feel free to delete this if I've been too harsh.

I think you're spot on, mccardey. And I'm so sorry your child is so ill. Arthritis is a horrible disease to have. My aunt had terrible rheumatoid arthritis, and was born in 1924 so there weren't many treatments which could help her as she grew worse. It was awful to watch her deteriorate. I wish there were a cure, but for now, there are only treatments.

veinglory
12-30-2016, 08:28 PM
If you are in the US it is not simply a matter of whether something should or should not be called a cure by logic etc. The FDA legally mandates that only medications etc they have approved may make claimed of therapeutic benefit. Now is the chronically under-funded FDA likely to find your book and send you a cease and desist... probably not. (Only if there was some kind of serious complaint, like someone used your method instead of drugs and came to harm as a result.) But If they did things can get very serious.

Polenth
12-31-2016, 06:44 AM
This example might be useful for the focus thing: a chef who changed his diet and exercise (among other things) to help arthritis.

Most articles talk about this as improving his arthritis, helping his arthritis, and similar wording. Specifics might be stuff like not needing medication anymore. Here's one example: http://blog.arthritis.org/stories-of-yes/seamus-mullen-rheumatoid-arthritis/

His book is titled for being about tasty and healthy food, not for being a cure: https://www.amazon.com/Seamus-Mullens-Hero-Food-Delicious/dp/1449407587/

This article does use cure language, but note it then follows it up with a careful disclaimer saying there isn't a cure. Plus, the people quoted are careful to avoid saying it's a cure. It's the article writer who is taking the risk for the clickbait title: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/11327784/Seamus-Mullen-the-chef-who-cured-himself-of-arthritis.html

This is just the example that came up first looking for recovery-from-arthritis-with-instructions books. I'm sure you'll find more.

markoliver
12-31-2016, 08:07 AM
I want to start the next sentence with "I don't want to be harsh" but actually I find I do want to be harsh because I have lived the experience of being a mother with a child who has juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (which is tough, but not as tough as being the child who has the arthritis) and if there's one thing I came to object to it's people who claim to have found a cure. When you find a cure BigPharma will buy it is my experience. And then you write the book about your cure.

Big Pharma companies are only interested in profits not curing anyone just suppressing the symptoms so they can damage your body further and sell you even more harmful medication as you grow older and more disabled "you cure someone you no longer sell expensive drugs" !
When I asked the specialist in the UK about diet being a contributing factor to the symptoms he said there is nothing to prove that, now it is widely accepted even by the Drs that diet does have an effect on the symptoms of the disease... Big Pharma and main stream Drs also say that alternative therapies do not work but most of us know that they do but people always want the easy route. There is enough information out there to support that Yoga, diet and alternative therapies do work.
If we use 'frozen shoulder' as an example, the Dr will give you pain killers and tell you there is nothing that he can do so go home and take rest ! with acupuncture one needle can restore motion to the shoulder, this is real and can easily be proved.. ps I am also a trained acupuncturist..
They also say cancer can not be cured but diet can cure it in many cases, cancer cannot live in an alkaline body it need sugars, but people do not want to change because they are addicted to sugars and their bad diet and lifestyle.. it sounds like you mccardey believes Drs, even though they gave you bad advice about your son, I choose not to believe them.

No problem with you being harsh, I can also be harsh sometimes. I am sharing my story to help people make a choice 'either give in to the disease or challenge it' I challenged it and I do not take mainstream medicines, pain is a signal that something is wrong but most people want to suppress that pain with a tablet..

If someone wants to sued me because of my story and their interpretation of the title I am prepared to take that challenge too, they must also prove that they followed the recommendations, there are enough references in my manuscript that arthritis is not just one disease with everyone having the same reactions and symptoms, it is about taking a broad look at what can be the contributing factors and having options..

markoliver
12-31-2016, 08:08 AM
I want to start the next sentence with "I don't want to be harsh" but actually I find I do want to be harsh because I have lived the experience of being a mother with a child who has juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (which is tough, but not as tough as being the child who has the arthritis) and if there's one thing I came to object to it's people who claim to have found a cure. When you find a cure BigPharma will buy it is my experience. And then you write the book about your cure.

Big Pharma companies are only interested in profits not curing anyone just suppressing the symptoms so they can damage your body further and sell you even more harmful medication as you grow older and more disabled "you cure someone you no longer sell expensive drugs" !
When I asked the specialist in the UK about diet being a contributing factor to the symptoms he said there is nothing to prove that, now it is widely accepted even by the Drs that diet does have an effect on the symptoms of the disease... Big Pharma and main stream Drs also say that alternative therapies do not work but most of us know that they do but people always want the easy route. There is enough information out there to support that Yoga, diet and alternative therapies do work.
If we use 'frozen shoulder' as an example, the Dr will give you pain killers and tell you there is nothing that he can do so go home and take rest ! with acupuncture one needle can restore motion to the shoulder, this is real and can easily be proved.. ps I am also a trained acupuncturist..
They also say cancer can not be cured but diet can cure it in many cases, cancer cannot live in an alkaline body it need sugars, but people do not want to change because they are addicted to sugars and their bad diet and lifestyle.. it sounds like you mccardey believes Drs, even though they gave you bad advice about your son, I choose not to believe them.

No problem with you being harsh, I can also be harsh sometimes. I am sharing my story to help people make a choice 'either give in to the disease or challenge it' I challenged it and I do not take mainstream medicines, pain is a signal that something is wrong but most people want to suppress that pain with a tablet..

If someone wants to sued me because of my story and their interpretation of the title I am prepared to take that challenge too, they must also prove that they followed the recommendations, there are enough references in my manuscript that arthritis is not just one disease with everyone having the same reactions and symptoms, it is about taking a broad look at what can be the contributing factors and having options..

Helix
12-31-2016, 08:17 AM
I want to start the next sentence with "I don't want to be harsh" but actually I find I do want to be harsh because I have lived the experience of being a mother with a child who has juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (which is tough, but not as tough as being the child who has the arthritis) and if there's one thing I came to object to it's people who claim to have found a cure. When you find a cure BigPharma will buy it is my experience. And then you write the book about your cure.

Big Pharma companies are only interested in profits not curing anyone just suppressing the symptoms so they can damage your body further and sell you even more harmful medication as you grow older and more disabled "you cure someone you no longer sell expensive drugs" !
When I asked the specialist in the UK about diet being a contributing factor to the symptoms he said there is nothing to prove that, now it is widely accepted even by the Drs that diet does have an effect on the symptoms of the disease... Big Pharma and main stream Drs also say that alternative therapies do not work but most of us know that they do but people always want the easy route. There is enough information out there to support that Yoga, diet and alternative therapies do work.
If we use 'frozen shoulder' as an example, the Dr will give you pain killers and tell you there is nothing that he can do so go home and take rest ! with acupuncture one needle can restore motion to the shoulder, this is real and can easily be proved.. ps I am also a trained acupuncturist..
They also say cancer can not be cured but diet can cure it in many cases, cancer cannot live in an alkaline body it need sugars, but people do not want to change because they are addicted to sugars and their bad diet and lifestyle.. it sounds like you mccardey believes Drs, even though they gave you bad advice about your son, I choose not to believe them.

No problem with you being harsh, I can also be harsh sometimes. I am sharing my story to help people make a choice 'either give in to the disease or challenge it' I challenged it and I do not take mainstream medicines, pain is a signal that something is wrong but most people want to suppress that pain with a tablet..

If someone wants to sued me because of my story and their interpretation of the title I am prepared to take that challenge too, they must also prove that they followed the recommendations, there are enough references in my manuscript that arthritis is not just one disease with everyone having the same reactions and symptoms, it is about taking a broad look at what can be the contributing factors and having options..

I don't know where to start with this.

I might just leave it as 'self-serving, unscientific and -- in the case of the cancer claim, dangerous -- claptrap' because I like being a member of this forum.

ETA: let me add ignorant and arrogant to that list of adjectives.

markoliver
12-31-2016, 08:21 AM
I think you're spot on, mccardey. And I'm so sorry your child is so ill. Arthritis is a horrible disease to have. My aunt had terrible rheumatoid arthritis, and was born in 1924 so there weren't many treatments which could help her as she grew worse. It was awful to watch her deteriorate. I wish there were a cure, but for now, there are only treatments.

Old Hack .... You are so WRONG here, this your opinion !! you know nothing about the disease and are stuck in the idea that modern medicine as the answers which it does not.. I guess your aunt had Osteo not rheumatoid which back in the times you quote they did not distinguish between the 2..

There are lots of treatments you have to find the one that works for you which is not mainstream medicine of pain killers and steroids that only suppress the disease..

It is always hard to see someone you love in pain but one thing for sure we all have to experience it and we all die...

cornflake
12-31-2016, 08:32 AM
I want to start the next sentence with "I don't want to be harsh" but actually I find I do want to be harsh because I have lived the experience of being a mother with a child who has juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (which is tough, but not as tough as being the child who has the arthritis) and if there's one thing I came to object to it's people who claim to have found a cure. When you find a cure BigPharma will buy it is my experience. And then you write the book about your cure.

Big Pharma companies are only interested in profits not curing anyone just suppressing the symptoms so they can damage your body further and sell you even more harmful medication as you grow older and more disabled "you cure someone you no longer sell expensive drugs" !
When I asked the specialist in the UK about diet being a contributing factor to the symptoms he said there is nothing to prove that, now it is widely accepted even by the Drs that diet does have an effect on the symptoms of the disease... Big Pharma and main stream Drs also say that alternative therapies do not work but most of us know that they do but people always want the easy route. There is enough information out there to support that Yoga, diet and alternative therapies do work.
If we use 'frozen shoulder' as an example, the Dr will give you pain killers and tell you there is nothing that he can do so go home and take rest ! with acupuncture one needle can restore motion to the shoulder, this is real and can easily be proved.. ps I am also a trained acupuncturist..
They also say cancer can not be cured but diet can cure it in many cases, cancer cannot live in an alkaline body it need sugars, but people do not want to change because they are addicted to sugars and their bad diet and lifestyle.. it sounds like you mccardey believes Drs, even though they gave you bad advice about your son, I choose not to believe them.

No problem with you being harsh, I can also be harsh sometimes. I am sharing my story to help people make a choice 'either give in to the disease or challenge it' I challenged it and I do not take mainstream medicines, pain is a signal that something is wrong but most people want to suppress that pain with a tablet..

If someone wants to sued me because of my story and their interpretation of the title I am prepared to take that challenge too, they must also prove that they followed the recommendations, there are enough references in my manuscript that arthritis is not just one disease with everyone having the same reactions and symptoms, it is about taking a broad look at what can be the contributing factors and having options..

If you cannot understand the difference between 'it isn't proven to work,' and 'it seems to have helped you,' I don't know what to tell you but that perhaps a class in research methods might be of benefit.

Diet might have an effect on some symptoms of some types of arthritis in some people, and in others it will do shit all, and in still others... people are individuals. Medicine is a science.

To denigrate the people who spend their lives working to research and develop medications that change and save lives as both not caring about curing people and actively seeking to damage people? Not cool. Yes, corporations, especially public corporations, seek profit. Go figure. That doesn't mean they're evil.

No, it cannot be PROVEN that a frozen shoulder can be 'fixed' with acupuncture. Someone may be helped by it, someone may not be helped by it, and someone may be told they were given acupuncture, but weren't touched, and were still helped. Figuring out what is actually working, how it's working, how lasting the effects, etc.? That's science, and it's not driven by random fucking anecdotes.

No, someone doesn't have to prove they did your yoga poses to sue your ass. It's clear you can't cure arthritis; you have exactly zero proof you do. Burden of proof is on you, as you're making a claim.

be frank
12-31-2016, 08:34 AM
You are so WRONG here, this your opinion !! you know nothing about the disease

Ah, the smell of irony in the morning.

markoliver
12-31-2016, 08:38 AM
it sounds like there are a lot of people in this forum who comment about nothing they know and believe Drs and drug companies, there are lots of people who have found a way back to normal life without going through Chemo etc.

HELIX, love the word 'claptrap' enjoy your mcDonalds, Coca Cola and the medications that go with it "wake up" and do sme research...

cornflake
12-31-2016, 08:41 AM
it sounds like there are a lot of people in this forum who comment about nothing they know and believe Drs and drug companies, there are lots of people who have found a way back to normal life without going through Chemo etc.

HELIX, love the word 'claptrap' enjoy your mcDonalds, Coca Cola and the medications that go with it "wake up" and do sme research...

Oh, please, make more ludicrous, utterly unfounded assumptions about people because they don't agree with you.

Hint: That is not a way to support your position.

MacAllister
12-31-2016, 08:41 AM
Dial it back, people.

markoliver, you're on pretty thin ice. This isn't Facebook, and sneering at your fellow board members isn't going to serve you well, here.

Helix
12-31-2016, 08:43 AM
it sounds like there are a lot of people in this forum who comment about nothing they know and believe Drs and drug companies, there are lots of people who have found a way back to normal life without going through Chemo etc.

HELIX, love the word 'claptrap' enjoy your mcDonalds, Coca Cola and the medications that go with it "wake up" and do sme research...

Sorry, Mac. Was typing at the same time.

markoliver
12-31-2016, 10:56 AM
CORNFLAKE Oh, please, make more ludicrous, utterly unfounded assumptions about people because they don't agree with you.

Hint: That is not a way to support your position.

Dial it back, people.

MACALLISTER markoliver, you're on pretty thin ice. This isn't Facebook, and sneering at your fellow board members isn't going to serve you well, here.

I asked for advice on self publishing not arthritis, if I want health advice I would ask a health professional which does not only include doctors..... Hari Ohmmmm

LA*78
12-31-2016, 11:15 AM
I asked for advice on self publishing not arthritis, if I want health advice I would ask a health professional which does not only include doctors..... Hari Ohmmmm

I don't see anyone providing health advice here, but I do see people raising a major red flag for you to consider before you pursue publishing. That is, the title of your works, and the potential legal implications that may follow should you publish with it. My suggestion would be to frame your works more as a memoir of how you managed your own arthritis, or, find a considerable group of sufferers of the disease willing to put your program to the test so you can include more anecdotal support that your program eases the symptoms of the disease. Personally I would still remove the word 'cure' from the title, regardless. Semantics are everything in the writing world.

markoliver
12-31-2016, 12:18 PM
I don't see anyone providing health advice here, but I do see people raising a major red flag for you to consider before you pursue publishing. That is, the title of your works, and the potential legal implications that may follow should you publish with it. My suggestion would be to frame your works more as a memoir of how you managed your own arthritis, or, find a considerable group of sufferers of the disease willing to put your program to the test so you can include more anecdotal support that your program eases the symptoms of the disease. Personally I would still remove the word 'cure' from the title, regardless. Semantics are everything in the writing world.

Thanks LA
This is one of the few worthwhile replies I have had so far, Maybe to change the title to 'A yogis own cure to arthritis' may be a better title, I will take legal advice on this.
The Manuscript is my story which is the first chapter, I do mention several times within that Arthritis is a very complex disease and what works for one person may not work for others, it is about trial and error. One thing I am sure about is everyone can benefit from the dietary advice, the simple exercises and the breathing and relaxation techniques. If someone is able to take this further and do a dedicated ashtanga yoga practice this is also good.

What I did not need is people referring to their aunties suffering, people ridiculing diet and alternative therapies and suggestions to re-write when they do not know the full content. I have lived with this disease for almost 30 years and gone through the pains associated with it so I think I am more than qualified to share my story, I have also witnessed my own father suffer and die from heart disease my mother die with kidney failure and friends die from cancer and others who have been cured from walking away from traditional medicine...

Old Hack
12-31-2016, 01:39 PM
I do not see this thread going anywhere positive now, so have closed it. But I am going to respond to this comment, as it was addressed to me.



I think you're spot on, mccardey. And I'm so sorry your child is so ill. Arthritis is a horrible disease to have. My aunt had terrible rheumatoid arthritis, and was born in 1924 so there weren't many treatments which could help her as she grew worse. It was awful to watch her deteriorate. I wish there were a cure, but for now, there are only treatments.

Old Hack .... You are so WRONG here, this your opinion !! you know nothing about the disease and are stuck in the idea that modern medicine as the answers which it does not.. I guess your aunt had Osteo not rheumatoid which back in the times you quote they did not distinguish between the 2..

There are lots of treatments you have to find the one that works for you which is not mainstream medicine of pain killers and steroids that only suppress the disease..

It is always hard to see someone you love in pain but one thing for sure we all have to experience it and we all die...

You insist arthritis can be cured by yoga, you dismiss Big Pharma as being only interested in profit and not with helping people, and then you patronise me by stating the obvious about having to find the treatment which works best for you, and tell me I'm wrong about my aunt's illness when you know little to nothing about her.

My aunt had rheumatoid arthritis, her doctors were quite clear that she didn't have osteoarthritis, and she was horribly disabled with it. Arthritis wouldn't have cured her because she was in too much pain to move much, and because her joints were so badly deformed by the illness that even trying to do any yoga would have resulted in fractures and huge amounts of inflammation. So do not tell people they can be cured by your yoga practice, or that they should ignore Big Pharma and doctors in favour of your untested ideas: you have a closed mind, and won't consider that mainstream medicine has a place in this disease. Your claims are dangerous and foolish, and you run the real risk of not only ending up the focus of some very expensive legal action, but of also ruining people's lives and causing real harm with your snake-oil claims.

We can help you with advice regarding publication, and my advice to you is DO NOT PUBLISH THIS BOOK. If you are determined to go ahead, then as I said earlier, reframe it as a memoir and make no claim to offer a cure (not even with disclaimers in place): only explain how it has helped you. And take legal advice before you publish it, just to make sure you've not overlooked anything.