This is why I stopped posting here and stopped writing.

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I couldn't decide where to post this, but it's mostly about writing, so Roundtable seemed like a good choice.

For those that remember me, thank you! I always enjoyed this community. For those that don't know me, I used to be a regular poster here and just kind of disappeared.

I was a nonfiction regional history author with four books published. After my last book came out in 2010, I decided to concentrate on fiction and stopped writing local history, even though I enjoyed it and very much liked my publisher. Still do.

I was a regular poster here, contributing whenever and wherever I could. I was always writing. I worked very hard on a horror novel that was rejected by everybody and ended up getting trunked. It needs a vast rewrite that I'm not going to do. I wrote a chilren's book that also was rejected, and a huge rewrite could save it, but it's trunked. (Please note, these were endlessly rewritten and were reviewed by beta readers, so they weren't rushed by any means.). I also wrote a YA thriller that I'm still very proud of, but it too was rejected by everyone.

That leads me to my last novel I was working on three years ago, a YA romance that has a complete first draft, but got bogged down during initial rewrites.

As I wrote that YA romance, my family life changed drastically when my then four-year-old wife's nephew, Leo, suddenly moved in with us. Long story short, his mother was put in prison, and he was being sexually abused in the relative's house he was living in. My daughter was 3 at the time and things got very complicated, plus he had therapy, we had family therapy, and we had to start undoing all the damage that was done to him. After over three years, he has improved immensely, but the family had to go through a lot of adjustment to accomodate him.

I continued to revise and post here on AW and send out queries for the YA thriller, but kept getting rejections, and soon feedback from new beta readers was starting to show the cracks in the story. It needed more work, it seemed. However, I was revising the new story, but the heart was starting to go out of it. I would work and rework and rework and rework the first chapter, and never get any further. Over time, I wasted more of my writing time than actually write.

But that's not all. When Leo moved in, I had to give up my private space in the house, which was the back bedroom. I had to box up all my crap and move it to the basement. For the next six months I built a new room in the basement which would become my Man Cave/Library/Writing Room/Hang Out Room. I was also working full time.

I should mention that the same week Leo moved in, I got a new full time job. Soon after I started the new job, I started having daily dizzy spells. Since 2000 my left ear has been ringing, I started losing hearing in that ear, and I was having dizzy spells that led to vertigo. When the new job started, I didn't understand why my periodic huge dizzy spells were now daily small dizzy spells. I saw doctors and a hearing specialist who diagnosed it as Meniere's Disease and he prescribed medication to treat it. I learned from our therapist that I had general anxiety disorder, and with the stress of Leo moving in gave me the daily dizzy spells. I went on the prescribed medication for the Meniere's and anti-anxiety medication for the stress, and things have been mostly okay since.

That brings me to the writing issue.

I've been selling on eBay since around 2000 as a small hobby and a way to bring in extra money. In the last few years, I had to make a choice with my limited time: write or sell on eBay. I would always do either or, but when building the new basement room, I spent my spare time selling on eBay as a way to finance the project. Pretty much the whole project was funded by eBay instead of family finances.

As I worked at the new job, I started selling more and more, really ramping up the business. Then in February 2015 I lost that job (for company reasons) and as I looked for a new job, thrifting and selling became a real part-time job. I reasoned that writing brought in no money, but selling brought in needed income. I got a new job in July 2015 (technical writing! and I loved it!) which lasted until February 2016 when the assignment ended. It was temporary until the project was done.

I've been unemployed since February and haven't written a damn thing. All my time is spent selling. I've averaged $2000 a month selling (after fees), which has REALLY helped family finances. If it weren't for eBay, we would have gone broke as I searched for new job, or I would have taken a lower-paying horrible job that would have probably paid me less than what I make from eBay. I hope to have a new job soon, because I haven't reached the point with eBay yet that I don't need a job.

So, that's it. Writing doesn't bring in money, but selling does. I do love writing and hope to get back to it if ever things even themselves out. For now, though, I have to sell if I want to help support the family. I had to make a choice: write or do something for money, and the money part had to win.
 

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:hi:

That's an awful lot on your plate. Bless you and your wife for taking Leo in and giving him a stable home.

If you're wanting to get back into writing, there's a great Facebook group called 10 Minute Novelists - the idea is to just write in chunks of 10 minutes. (Of course, I spend far more than 10 minutes reading group posts...) Less pressure than trying to fit in an hour a day or whatever. You could probably write for 10 minutes in the bathroom. (Not that I would ever do that... just sayin' it's an option. LOL)

Welcome back. Few of us are able resist the lure of AW permanently! :e2BIC:
 

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Of course we remember you, us long-time members. We also worried about you and hoped all was well. We remember the stress of Leo's arrival, admired you and your family for taking him in, and soon after you were just gone.

Listen up, buddy: This is your haven and home whether you're writing or not, whether you're selling your writing or not. You're one of us, and that's a done deal.

Meanwhile, I bet you could add a lot of hands-on information to our general knowledge base about online selling. Hell, at two grand a month, you could probably self-publish a how-to and make a few more bucks.

Anyway, I'm delighted to see you back in the fold.

Maryn, with a hug
 

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I'm glad you came back, underthecity. I'm sorry that life has been so challenging, but the good you've done by giving your nephew a safe, loving home will pay you back in the future.

Wishing you health and happiness, and perhaps a few minutes here and there to write a little something. Maybe start small and brief. Haiku? :)

Welcome back.
 

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Y'know, this was a heartfelt message. Yes, I tripped over that bit at first too, and then I managed to get one whole word further and it made sense: his wife's nephew who was four years old. It seems mean to pluck that out and boggle at it.

To the OP: Yes, welcome back, but also I applaud you whether you decide to write again or whether you choose to focus on other things more permanently. Writing is wonderful and important, but the world is full of wonderful and important things. Do what you need to do. May it go well for all of you!
 

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Welcome back. That's a heck of a lot to be dealing with. I'm glad you have found a way to supplement your income and to just keep swimming.

I'd say this is a fine place for you to take a load off and socialize, even if you're not able to write at this time. I think we have a lot of members who find life to be detrimental to their writing. You'll fit right in.
 

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It's so lovely to see you back. You've been so great looking after little Leo in the way you have: you've changed his life, and that's not a small thing.

I'm glad the eBaying is going so well for you, and I really hope that improves. Just as I hope we'll see more of you round here, if you ever feel the need to say hello.
 

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Welcome back, underthecity. It's great to see you here. Family and health are so important, and I'm glad you've been able to do what's needed to get through such challenging times. Writing's around when you need it, and we're always here. Hope to see you around a bit more.
 

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Great to see you again! I always appreciate your openness in sharing with us. I actually thought about you last week when I saw some titles in the Images of America series anx remembered your book about the Cincinnati subway. I'm sorry to hear about your rough road, but always know you've not been forgotten.
 

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I, too, remember you and am glad to see you resurface. You've dealt with a lot and I hope you're stronger and wiser for it. :)

On the writing thing, let me just say this: I wrote a novel, including all the re-writes and edits and beta readers... and it was rejected by about 100 agents and ended up in a trunk. Then I wrote a second novel, including all the re-writes and edits and beta readers... and it was rejected by about 100 agents and ended up in a trunk. Then I wrote a third novel, including all the re-writes and edits and beta readers... and it was rejected by about 100 agents and ended up in a trunk.

Then I wrote a fourth novel, including all the re-writes and edits and beta readers... and now I'm famous. (To my kids and a few people at work.) You're clearly a hard-working, determined person, which is what it sometimes takes to succeed in this writing business, so my only message to you is : you may not have time to write now, but just 'cos it didn't work out before, there's no reason to quit. I'm sure glad I didn't.
 

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I haven't been here long enough to remember you from before. That being said, as the others have stated, WELCOME BACK! I hope to get to know you in the near future. The good you and your family have done for Leo will repay you in many ways (albeit not financially) in the future. The ebay selling seems to be a good trade off for now. The writing time will come back to you eventually. Keep your head up and good luck!:hi:
 

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Glad to have you back. :) As Maryn said, you don't need to be writing to belong here, we're here to talk to whenever you need us!
 

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You remember me! Thank you for saying so. And yeah, I butchered the line about my "four year old wife's nephew" which should read "the four-year-old nephew of my wife" or "my wife's four year old nephew." It's been a while since I've written stuff.

I'd like to visit AW more often, maybe even squeezing in some writing time. I've fantasized about self publishing the YA thriller. It seems like self publishing has changed a great deal in the past few years. Has it become more acceptable now? Still, I've seen good books and a lot of, um, not so good self published books, so I wonder if the marketplace has become diluted.

Anyhow, it's good to know I'm remembered round these parts. I'll be posting around, for sure.
 

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Under! Good to hear from you.

i remember the situation you were dealing with about the time you stopped posting here. You and your wife get major kudos from me for taking on that task.

I like Maryn's idea about you writing a non fiction book on online selling. Something to think about.

Don't be a stranger.
 

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I guess I won't be a stranger any longer. And you know what I forgot in my original post? I have a baby boy, born February 14, 2015. He's 20 months old now and is named Zachary. Can't believe I forgot about him!
 

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I remember you so well I remember your real name but didn't know if it was cool to use it when you didn't sign your post with it.

Yes, please do stop by even if it's just to say hi, what's up, I'm exhausted.

I used to know a woman with four kids under six and a home-based business. She found time to write. I figured if Paula can squeeze a half hour in most days, I had no excuse.

Maryn, pretty adept with the old excuses
 

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I guess I won't be a stranger any longer. And you know what I forgot in my original post? I have a baby boy, born February 14, 2015. He's 20 months old now and is named Zachary. Can't believe I forgot about him!

You named him Zachary? Not Cupid? Valentino? You missed a golden opportunity there. :e2shrug:

Congratulations!!
 

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Wow, I am so sorry to hear this but have hope that writing will bring in money one day. I think family should always come first and applaud you for stepping up for Leo. Congrats on Zachary and good luck with everything!
 

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I couldn't agree with everyone more! Wow! Good on you for all you're doing. The thing I love about writing is it takes me out of all the crap going on . . . (the election alone.)

I think it's awesome that you've reached out! Even just the song category can take me out of the doldrums. (also helps the jukebox in my head switch to a better song!)

I feel the deepest possible empathy for Leo. Such an inspiring story and example you are! I'm so happy to meet you.

Best wishes whatever you decide!

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Welcome back, Underthecity. I remember you! :)

Congratulations on the little one! And it's great to hear you're doing okay, even if things have been rough. Again, welcome back. :)
 

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Congratulations on your son, under! That's great news. :)
 

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I remember you, too. Nice to see you back and I'm glad to hear that the family stuff is improving. Congratulations on your son. Do drop in to chat now and again, whether you're writing or not.
 
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