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Vertle
09-30-2015, 10:16 PM
So season three came out this year and I've seen that it's transitioned to netflix now so I'm hoping that it's come to the attention of a few people here. I can't be the only one to bask in the divine acting talent of Tatiana Maslany and her many characters. Starting with the most important question, who's your favourite clone?

WriterDude
10-01-2015, 12:17 AM
Been watching but not following.

Helena reminds me of an ex. And so does the suburban mom, and the lesbian boffin...

Lost track of the plot as the wife watches it while I snore on the sofa.

Maryn
10-01-2015, 12:34 AM
We've watched three seasons. Hm, which clone do I like best? I don't know! But wardrobe, hairdressing, and most of all acting means I'm never confused who's who, not even for a moment. Wow.

M.S. Wiggins
10-01-2015, 12:55 AM
I adore Helena's subtle humor. "You should not threaten babies."

TheKalebRussell
10-01-2015, 01:00 AM
For me, it'd definitely be Helena. I love the way the writers made her equally deadly and adorable, not to mention her insatiable appetite. She's the best Sestra!

mirandashell
10-01-2015, 01:14 AM
I've only seen the first two series but she is an amazing actress. Even the voices are different!

Max Vaehling
10-01-2015, 02:00 PM
Just watched the first two seasons again on DVD. Loved the show from the moment I noticed that that wasn't three people in that scene I'd just enjoyed, it was one person and I hadn't even thought about it.

Helena is clearly my favorite. She's the pigpen of the group, except she's smearing everything with blood rather than dust and dirt. She's also unpredictable and psychotic which I'm not usually a fan of in TV roles, but Maslany plays her with such obvious vulnerability, it totally works. Alyson is a close second but her arc has been a bit sdielined in season 2 and 3. I like when they work together.

Ravioli
10-01-2015, 02:16 PM
I liked the dreadlock scientist girl. Toshiba or something. But the show kinda lost me, it's just pretty faces being pretty.

Writer MMS
10-01-2015, 02:42 PM
It's definitely on my que list to watch, Orphan black, the blacklist, black mirror....lotta good shows with black in the title.

EMaree
10-01-2015, 08:00 PM
I absolutely *adore* Orphan Black, Tatiana is a phenomenal actress, and the supporting cast are fantastic as well. (FELIX!)

Corsairs
10-01-2015, 09:07 PM
A great show and a superlative actress. Can't wait for season 4!

Max Vaehling
10-02-2015, 12:46 PM
About the pretty faces being pretty, I particularly like that Maslany is exactly not that. she looks good, don't get me wrong, but in a way that's very characteristic. She stands out, and whenever they introduce a new clone, it's part of what sells the concept. If they'd gone with a regular Hollywood pretty, half the time I'd have trouble recognizing her. (I'm not good with faces. Clark Kent would totally fool me. But Maslany's face works in her favor.)

Vertle
10-02-2015, 05:00 PM
It's when the clones are pretending to be each other that I get really amazed. The comedy is definitely to my taste as well. I agree about Tatiana having the look for the part. She's pretty but also has a bit of an everyday face which works in her favour. Any opinions about the boy clones? I enjoyed what they brought to the plot but their characters certainly didn't stand out as much besides for Mark or Rudy. I hope that's something that will be improved upon in season 4 rather than forgetting about it.

00Pepper
10-02-2015, 05:35 PM
I love Orphan Black! Love it. Alyson is probably my favorite with Helena a close second. Rachel is the most hated, of course. And the new clone, the one that does nails, I'm looking forward to seeing more of her.

And I loooove Felix. :D Especially Alyson and Felix together.

Vertle
10-04-2015, 12:07 AM
I have a small place in my heart for Rachel because of how wickedly twisted she is. I especially love how vulnerable she is in the third season only for her to go back to reminding us exactly why she's such a threat. Chrystal was really cute, it was interesting to have such an innocent clone.

M.S. Wiggins
10-04-2015, 12:46 AM
And I loooove Felix. :D Especially Alyson and Felix together.

Oh, hell yeah! I love Felix with anybody. He could have a conversation with toast and I'd love it.

muse
10-04-2015, 05:08 AM
I love Orphan Black! Love it. Alyson is probably my favorite with Helena a close second. Rachel is the most hated, of course. And the new clone, the one that does nails, I'm looking forward to seeing more of her.

And I loooove Felix. :D Especially Alyson and Felix together.


Oh, hell yeah! I love Felix with anybody. He could have a conversation with toast and I'd love it.

I'm with you two. Alyson and Felix rock!:e2headban

CrastersBabies
10-05-2015, 07:41 AM
Alison and Felix. I so want them to be my BFFs too.

mirandashell
10-12-2015, 02:16 AM
I just finished it! Boy, the reveal of the original was shocking! And the actress, I was not expecting it to be her at all.

Helena just breaks my heart every week. Everything she's been through. And all the little moments where she gets a glimpse of a normal life and you can see the surprise and the delight on her face. That 'oh, that's what that means!' moment. And the sparks of compassion in the midst of the craziness. Just tears me up every time.

Tatiana Maslany is an amazing actress.

mirandashell
10-12-2015, 02:20 AM
Any opinions about the boy clones? I enjoyed what they brought to the plot but their characters certainly didn't stand out as much besides for Mark or Rudy.

I think it's because the actor doesn't have the skills of Tatiana. He had to play the differences much bigger so it wasn't as subtle.

EMaree
10-12-2015, 03:23 PM
Yeah, I love the *concept* behind the boy clones, the military ideas behind them, but I find them much less distinct and interesting than Tatiana's roles. I'm not convinced the actor was the right choice for the role, and I wish the writers had worked a bit harder to seperate them -- I know it's unrealistic to have them running around outside of the armed forces, but why not send them to *different* forces?

We could have had, to make up a few examples from my limited US forces knowledge...



a stoic, silent SEAL clone with PTSD who's afraid if he shows his symptoms he'll be deemed defective
a heavily tattooed Navy clone who really tries too hard to be macho
an amputee veteran dealing with both the crappy support for injured vets and the even crappier support for injured Castor clones
a newly wheelchair-bound roadside bombing victim who our grumpy amputee takes under his wing and teaches how to hide his trauma from the mental tests
a stick-up the butt air force officer who just wants their squad to survive
a rough 'n tumble infantry grunt who likes wearing pink underwear under his camos 'cos it makes the boys laugh, and lives for his downtime with a pile of fantasy novels and comic books
a surly, sweary medic who just bloody hates everyone but he'll still fix you up because a man's gotta get paid. They got shipped off to work in the UK for a bit, or worked with UK forces in the US, and came back with a terrible mixed British/American accent and really strong opinions about tea.
A high-ranking senior engineer who keeps delving into how all the Castor tests work and what's happening to all the other clones. He's got a speech impediment and so prefers to just type and text everything, but if someone tries to bully him because of his stammer or meekness he will not hesitate to pull rank and remind them of their place. He has a *lot* of friends in high places, and a lot of people who owe him favors. He doesn't often call of them but he doesn't ever forget, either.


They could have addressed the male assault issue (http://www.gq.com/long-form/male-military-rape) (TW: rape) in the US military and delved into why clones like Rudy were so cruel when it came to their own sexuality.

The military has such potential for different personalities, different roles and ways of living, and they never really went into it. It was disappointing, though I still loved the season.

mirandashell
10-12-2015, 08:13 PM
It's when the clones are pretending to be each other that I get really amazed.

I know. Watching Tati play Sarah playing Rachel and still making the distinction from the 'real' Rachel was just mind-blowing. There's not many actors around with the skill to do that.

Vertle
10-13-2015, 12:42 AM
We could have had, to make up a few examples from my limited US forces knowledge...



a stoic, silent SEAL clone with PTSD who's afraid if he shows his symptoms he'll be deemed defective
a heavily tattooed Navy clone who really tries too hard to be macho
an amputee veteran dealing with both the crappy support for injured vets and the even crappier support for injured Castor clones
a newly wheelchair-bound roadside bombing victim who our grumpy amputee takes under his wing and teaches how to hide his trauma from the mental tests
a stick-up the butt air force officer who just wants their squad to survive
a rough 'n tumble infantry grunt who likes wearing pink underwear under his camos 'cos it makes the boys laugh, and lives for his downtime with a pile of fantasy novels and comic books
a surly, sweary medic who just bloody hates everyone but he'll still fix you up because a man's gotta get paid. They got shipped off to work in the UK for a bit, or worked with UK forces in the US, and came back with a terrible mixed British/American accent and really strong opinions about tea.
A high-ranking senior engineer who keeps delving into how all the Castor tests work and what's happening to all the other clones. He's got a speech impediment and so prefers to just type and text everything, but if someone tries to bully him because of his stammer or meekness he will not hesitate to pull rank and remind them of their place. He has a *lot* of friends in high places, and a lot of people who owe him favors. He doesn't often call of them but he doesn't ever forget, either.


They could have addressed the male assault issue (http://www.gq.com/long-form/male-military-rape) (TW: rape) in the US military and delved into why clones like Rudy were so cruel when it came to their own sexuality.


Whoa, I love all of your ideas, even just one or two of them would have been interesting to see. Hopefully, there might be some more next season. Thank you for informing me about the issue with male assault in the military as well, I was aware of the high suicide rates but didn't know rape was a problem as well.

Max Vaehling
10-13-2015, 01:08 PM
Yeah, it appears the actor who plays the male clones isn't quite as flexible. Then again, they grew up together, so it's only logical they picked up some similar mannerisms, while the Leda clones grew into completely different personalities.

darkprincealain
04-14-2016, 12:37 AM
I just got started on season three. It's a little bit difficult to follow, being a nuanced plot that you only get once a year. It's like I need a full recap episode before starting the next season.

Noizchild
04-14-2016, 04:03 AM
I saw the first episode and found it okay. I don't get BBCA anymore, so I can't watch any more to form a better opinion.

whiporee
04-14-2016, 05:03 AM
From the sneak peek that appeared on my DVR this weekend, it looks like we're getting a bit of Beth's backstory. And she was a cokehead.

It's a wonderful show, and Tatiana is magnificent. I saw her on a P&R replay the other day and kept wondering which sestra she was channeling.

popmuze
04-16-2016, 10:37 PM
To me, the original Sarah is still the greatest. I'd watch anything with Tatiana Maslany in it. I heard this season they're flashing back to before the beginning. Great move. I DVR'd the first episode of Season 4 but haven't watched it yet.

Perks
04-16-2016, 10:40 PM
Cannot say I loved the start to Season 4. I think I know what they were trying to do, but the way they decided to do it left it a confusing, muddled mess. I hope it gets back on track next week.

mirandashell
04-16-2016, 10:51 PM
SPOILERS!

We don't have it here yet. Could a mod put a spoiler warning in the title please? Just so us non-USians know not to read the thread now.

darkprincealain
04-25-2016, 04:27 PM
Just finished season three and caught the first episode of season four. Since we don't have BBCA here, I was watching on the app. The app requires a login for any episodes past the first one, so I have a year to wait for the remainder of season four. I found the first episode a bit confusing, but maybe if I rewatch pieces of season one it'll be easier to put the puzzle together.

darkprincealain
05-11-2016, 08:28 PM
I'm not so sure this new season isn't either retconning a bunch of crap, or didn't introduce a bunch of new plot holes. I love it, but I don't think they started the series knowing about this piece.

Zombie Fraggle
05-12-2016, 06:13 PM
I don't like Sarah and Felix being at odds (or the reason for it), so for that reason alone I'm not all that thrilled about the start of this season. I'm also a little iffy on the whole neo-worm-in-the-cheek thing, which really does feel like a retconning device to me.

As excited as I've been over this show for the first three seasons, I'm very much "meh" thus far with season four.

CindyGirl
10-30-2016, 03:20 AM
I just found this show and watched seasons 1 and 2 this past week. I am hooked. I like how you hate a character in one episode, (like Vic), then soften toward them in the next, then back to hate. Love Felix. Love Helena. I'll watch season three over the next week or so.

MaeZe
06-10-2017, 11:18 PM
New (final?) season starts tonight in the US. Not sure if it's the same schedule in other countries.

Yay!
In the Season 5 premiere, Sarah strives to rescue Cosima while struggling to survive on the island herself. Elsewhere: Cosima reunites with Delphine.

muse
06-12-2017, 09:30 PM
New (final?) season starts tonight in the US. Not sure if it's the same schedule in other countries.

Yay!

Can't wait!:hooray:

EMaree
06-22-2017, 10:32 PM
In the UK, it's releasing a new episode every Sunday on Netflix.

I enjoyed episode 1, but didn't enjoy episode 2 at all. Whiteout for spoilers.

The acting felt slightly off at all points: Mrs S didn't have her usual edge and seemed tired and appeasing, and MK was totally vague and directionless.

Ferdinand was just a mindless raging boner, which felt sort of realistic for his weird entitled-dude personality but didn't have the build up or justification it needed to really work. The sadomasochist going nuts because he's rejected, really? Dude can handle it! My partner and I have had debates over this because he found it believable, but for me, meh... it was *close* to believable for Ferdinand, but the groundwork just wasn't there.

And MK died for... no reason that I can fathom, literally. She could have gone! She had no reason to stay in the loft! And then she's up against Ferdinand, the guy who ruined her life, and she gets NOTHING. She doesn't even get to say a damn word to him.

It was so weird and tonally felt all wrong for the show. Really poor episode by the usual standards.

MaeZe
06-23-2017, 12:12 AM
I thought the first one tried to include too many stories. It was like a typical US soap opera, 5 minutes on a dozen characters so you get to see one event on each, story ball moves forward only by millimeters.

Episode 2 had more story depth.