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sgcassidy
08-01-2015, 10:48 PM
I went to the library, salivated over the thousands of books, how hard could this be, I can write better than these guys (well most at least). I've already proved it by writing my own book. It's "really super", a "tour de force".My neighbors cat likes it, her dog is nonplused but her dogs a nitwit.Now all that's left is to get it in the hands of an eager agent. Again, how hard could that be , these authors all did it. Then I found out about the dreaded "Query Letter". Hmmm. Easy, write a paragraph outlining my stupendous novel and dash it off to that eager agent. My head just exploded.

regdog
08-01-2015, 10:57 PM
Moving to Roundtable

Once!
08-01-2015, 11:29 PM
Punctuation helps.

BenPanced
08-02-2015, 02:06 AM
Writing the novel is only the beginning of the publishing process. You'll have to write the novel, edit the novel, edit the novel again, edit the novel once again, edit the novel one more time, edit the novel one more time again, write the query, edit the query, edit the query again, submit the novel, submit the novel again, submit the novel again, wait, wait, wait, and wait.

And writing a novel doesn't prove squat against other authors. Every author has varying degrees of quality and success, both of which are completely subjective according who's doing the talking. You might say your book is better than Author A's, while I might say mine's better than both of yours combined, whereas Author C brings up Author B and Author D, whose books Author E absolutely loathes when compared to their own, etc.

Too many people think it's as easy as cranking out a book and, boom. You're published. Poke around the threads here, particularly in the genre in which you write, and get more information on how to improve your writing so you can get it published. That's what we're here for.

sgcassidy
08-02-2015, 03:04 AM
I'm on the sixth or seventh rewrite of my MS. Almost a month of trying to write the query letter. Maybe a hundred of those. I found a voice while writing the MS but I'm all over the place with the Query letter. When I wrote the MS it's a building block, this then that, then that, then because of all of that, then this. Pretty standard stuff but I am having a Dickens of a time putting the main plot into context. I keep doing like I'm doing here, explaining one thing to get to the next. 250 words to explain a 95k novel is giving me angina.

ElaineA
08-02-2015, 03:31 AM
This is why around here, the query zone is called Query Letter Hell (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?174-Query-Letter-Hell-SYW). I'll give you a tip. Go over there right now (password vista) and start critiquing other queries. Don't say "I can't even write my own much less critique others." You can. It's always easier to see flaws when you're an objective observer. Critiquing queries is honest-to-goodness the best way to write your own. If there aren't enough current, active queries, spend your time in the stickies. The Three Questions sticky, and the Successful Queries sticky are excellent resources.

I promise, doing these things will be the most valulable time you spend trying to write your own query.

BenPanced
08-02-2015, 04:37 AM
This is why around here, the query zone is called Query Letter Hell (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?174-Query-Letter-Hell-SYW). I'll give you a tip. Go over there right now (password vista) and start critiquing other queries. Don't say "I can't even write my own much less critique others." You can. It's always easier to see flaws when you're an objective observer. Critiquing queries is honest-to-goodness the best way to write your own. If there aren't enough current, active queries, spend your time in the stickies. The Three Questions sticky, and the Successful Queries sticky are excellent resources.

I promise, doing these things will be the most valulable time you spend trying to write your own query.

Adding to this, it'll help bring your post count up to 50 so you can start posting your novel in the Share Your Work section. Critique begets critique here; the membership loves active participants.

sgcassidy
08-02-2015, 05:30 PM
Thanks. You guys (non guys too !) are a lot of help for a newbie. There's nothing out there that will help me learn while offering a "super secret membership" like this. This is a sink or swim endeavor and you all are making it easier. A light house on the proverbial shore of sanity. I'll go to "Query letter hell", it's exactly what I'm looking for........Thanks

blacbird
08-03-2015, 05:35 AM
Then there's the secret handshake. . . . . .

caw

BenPanced
08-03-2015, 06:08 AM
Then there's the secret handshake. . . . . .

caw

Shhh! :flamethrower

Jamesaritchie
08-03-2015, 08:57 PM
Punctuation helps.

So do paragraphs.

Jamesaritchie
08-03-2015, 08:59 PM
Adding to this, it'll help bring your post count up to 50 so you can start posting your novel in the Share Your Work section. Critique begets critique here; the membership loves active participants.

But do agents and editors love the results of these active participants? My experience is they don't. Not even a little bit.

Ton Lew Lepsnaci
08-03-2015, 10:43 PM
James, don't you have a post somewhere about the need to practice the right way? I think the topic was target practice, but the content nailed sound advice for learning any new skill. I enjoyed reading that. Not sure if I still have the link. It would make a great sticky for AW, offering a clue to the OP (and many others) on what is needed beyond the Share Your Work section.

As to the OP, why not follow some authors online? Getting published can be a very long process. Rothfuss talks openly about how long it took to write The Name of the Wind. My recollection is that he worked for seventeen years on the draft (though I'm no longer sure this is the actual time it took, check out his online interviews). Scott Lynch also reported a considerable time I believe to write the Lies of Locke Lamora (again, over a decade if I recall well (could be wrong here too), check out his interviews) .

Check out Self-Editing for Fiction Writers. It's a great resource. Then check out The Art of Slow Writing when you feel you've put in too much work and did not get a return. Self-Editing for Fiction Writers is worth its weight in gold for anyone determined to learn to "walk".

Becky Black
08-04-2015, 12:56 PM
And of course once you've done all of that editing and query writing and more editing and all the rest and your novel is finally published - there's the second novel. And the third. And so on. Unless you are one of those people with only one novel in them, then yep, the first novel is just the start. :D