cJay said:
I know that I am probably going to be attacked for this, but after reading this grammar board I do have a comment. Anyone can go to school to learn the rules of grammar, very few people have the talent to spin a great tale.
I guess what I am saying is that as long as you spin it well, which most of you seem so talented at, let the editors do their jobs and make it grammatically correct.
If you keep stopping in the middle of your great thoughts to wonder if the comma should go here or there, you are going to lose momentum.
I just think that you should focus on what is important...the story that you are compelled to tell..that story that is going to keep us on the edge of our seats, or sitting by a box of Kleenex, rather than a misplaced comma.
Talent is talent, rules are just rules.
It just doesn't work that way. An editor's job is not to fix your grammar, and even if it were, fixing grammar alone seldom solves anything. Writers with poor grammar skills are invariably poor writers AND poor storytellers.
I don't think anyone would suggest that you stop and ponder over every comma, thats what second drafts are for. Write the story first, then go back and fix the grammar. If you don't fix it, do not expect an editor to do it for you.
And editors job is to find writers who don't need huge amounts of time spent on them, because editors do not have huge amounts of time to spend on anything or anyone.
You don't have to be perfect, and editors will fix minor grammar mistakes and the occasional type, but that's it.
Grammar rules arethere for a reason. They are not arbitrary decisions made by some group of grammar elitists to make poor, wannabe writers suffer. As I said, you don't have to be perfect, but if you don't know these rules reasonably well, you simply are not going to have much success as a writer.
The worst possible thing any wannabe writer can do is believe that it's an editor's job to fix your grammar, and that you can be a great storyteller without being fairly knowledgeable of the rules of grammar and punctuation.
And if anyone can go to school and learn these rules, then why in God's name don't more people do so? Grammar isn't rocket science, and there simply is no excuse for not learning the basic rules. It's laziness at best, foolishness always.
In truth, anyone who has been trhough junior high school should have learned enough about grammar and punctuation to be a writer. But they didn't learn. Nor did they learn in high school. Nor do that take a single month out of their lives to buy and study a grammar book. Just a month is enough for most people who can learn to do so. But, shoot, give it two or three months. But do it. If you don't, won't, or can't, then start looking for another career. Writing isn't for you.
Do you really expect an editor to spend time fixing the grammar of writers who won't even do this much? Especially when fixing the grammar seldom solves half the problems a story has. A story written by someone without grammar skills always has problems above and beyond the grammar. Always.
I would agree that correct grammar alone does not make for good writing. A story can be grammatically perfect, and still stink in every possible way. But lack of grammar ensures the story will be bad, will take far more time and effort to repair than any editor has time to give it.
Talent is rare. Most do not have enough to succeed. But for those with enough talent, grammar and punctuation are part of the package any editor expects to see. Poor grammar and punctuation skills can, and often do, bury talent to such a depth that editors can't even see it.
Believe me, as an editor, when I see grammar and punctuation errors in the first few pages of a manuscript, or when I see too many througheout the manuscript, I never, ever think, "Gee, I'll just fix this and we'll have a winner."
I always think," "Well, another wannabe who doesn't care enough to master some basic, simple, easily learned skills."
If there's one mantra every wannabe writer should have it's this: "It is NOT an editor's job to fix my grammar and punctuation. It is NOT an editor's job to fix my grammar and punctuation. It is NOT an editor's job to fix my grammar and punctuation."
Repeat this until it sinks in. It's the blunt truth. As a writer, it's your job to learn grammar. As an editor, it's my job to find writers who have done their jobs. It is never, ever my job to do a writer's job.
If anyone can do it, then there is no excuse for not doing it. The thing is, anyone can do it, and they don't have to go back to school. They simply have to be willing to put in a little bit of study time. That's all.