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maestrowork
04-06-2005, 09:01 AM
By popular demand...


The hot tub is ready. Anybody willing? http://timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/hottub.gifhttp://timefortuckerman.com/forums/images/smilies/nakedguy2004.gif

Ol' Fashioned Girl
04-03-2014, 03:42 AM
Carry on!

Komnena
04-03-2014, 04:12 AM
o.k.

Maryn
04-03-2014, 06:02 PM
Thanks for the new digs!

Everybody remember to subscribe to the thread, if that's how you roll.

Maryn, who doesn't roll but gently folds

sassandgroove
04-03-2014, 10:12 PM
Ah spacious!
Got any chicken soup? I'm home sick.

Maryn
04-03-2014, 10:45 PM
I just bought chicken stock. I can make it into a hearty soup in about an hour. Carrots, celery, peas, a little onion, a little garlic, and some noodles sound good?

Maryn, who only made home-made soup twice all winter, the lazy person

Komnena
04-04-2014, 03:48 PM
It is raining but we have at least been spared winds of death.

sassandgroove
04-04-2014, 07:01 PM
bleah. still feel yucky but I came in to work.

Maryn
04-04-2014, 07:49 PM
O joy. That's one thing I don't miss about work, dragging my sick self in as soon as I can, knowing nobody else is picking up the slack while I'm away and no deadlines will be extended just because I was puking or whatever.

Last night was weird at our house, and indicative of summer to come. I'm watching TV, sort of, while goofing around online, and Mr. Maryn is watching baseball on his iPad while sort of watching TV. We tried it with the TV off, but on was better.

Maryn, who watches too much TV

sassandgroove
04-05-2014, 12:34 AM
yeah we do stuff like that too.

Maryn
04-05-2014, 07:25 PM
I find that being on my computer while Mr. Maryn watches sports is about the only way to deal. My heart sank when he announced that one of the things he planned to do once he retired was watch way more sports, and not just baseball, either.

He was just now complaining about the treadmill. Apparently he's having trouble finding stuff to watch on Netflix but won't even try an episode of the one I'm enjoying, because it's "mine." WTF? That makes no sense.

Maryn, doing Hell on Wheels

flea23
04-06-2014, 02:36 AM
To quote an old saying "Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you are."

Math problem - Sum x Pi = 2 or more trips. True or false. (Remember the definition of Pi - now regurgitate)

sassandgroove
04-06-2014, 03:45 PM
I don't know. I often end up enjoying shows Hubby likes that I wouldn't have tried on my own. Does he mean he'd have to catch up to you?

Maryn
04-06-2014, 05:08 PM
The idea is that he and I would watch it independently, and if we talked about it, we'd be careful about spoilers. Instead, he's been watching these weird trashy movies with hot women, and they're not good movies, so he's bored. I can appreciate his enjoyment of hot women, but of course lousy movies are boring. Watch something that's good and see if it doesn't have a woman you like, tossed in there for free, yet not about her exploitation.

Flea, nobody told me there would be math! My kids used to laugh at all the math I could no longer do, until I reminded them how many years had passed since my last math class.

Spring may have arrived. We've got sunshine and should hit the 50s later today. Yippee!

Maryn, happy about that

sassandgroove
04-07-2014, 06:21 PM
sometimes what you think you want doesn't turn out to be what you really want.

Maryn
04-07-2014, 06:51 PM
I've taken up The Tudors again. I was watching it on the treadmill in the early winter, but it just didn't move fast enough to prevent my awareness of suffering exertion. Floundering around for something to watch while I sewed, which limits it to a DVD, I saw the box.

I'd lost my place in the series. Without meaning to, I jumped ahead to Ann Bolyn's beheading. (Seriously, can't consider that a spoiler, can we?) Now I'm into it again. Henry's so bad he's fun to hate. And I sewed for an hour, which is all I asked of myself.

Maryn, slow

sassandgroove
04-07-2014, 08:25 PM
yeah I think you are ok mentioning that one.

Maryn
04-08-2014, 12:18 AM
Edits, round one. Up to page 58. Long, long way to go.

Apparently I rather like disconnected body parts which act independently of their owner, and my publisher does not. His hand pressed my back? Her eyes found the clock? Nope.

Maryn, fixing those she can

sassandgroove
04-08-2014, 01:14 AM
hmmm...I don't have a problem with those. interesting.
Sassy's fingers.

Maryn
04-08-2014, 01:31 AM
:)

Maryn, showing her dimple

mario_c
04-08-2014, 06:52 AM
Edits, round one. Up to page 58. Long, long way to go.

Apparently I rather like disconnected body parts which act independently of their owner, and my publisher does not. His hand pressed my back? Her eyes found the clock? Nope.

Maryn, fixing those she can
Script writers love that stuff. We tend to introduce a character like this:
Two meaty hands grip the steering wheel.

or

Bare feet stride into the boxing ring. Long legs atop....

And my favorite, from the original Romancing The Stone spec:

A size 44 foot kicks in the door.

I blame too many comic books as a kid, BAZAAM! KAPOW! and like that.



And I'm requoting

sometimes what you think you want doesn't turn out to be what you really want.
Just because it's awesome.

sassandgroove
04-08-2014, 04:49 PM
thanks mario

Maryn
04-08-2014, 05:49 PM
Yeah, I have no problem with disconnected body parts, but this publisher is known for hating them with the fire of a thousand suns. Changing every body part to S/He moved his hand down my spine from the original His/Her hand moved down my spine makes it weaker and adds needlessly to the word count, IMO. But hey, what do I know, right?

Today I plan to do a buttload on this ms., maybe even all of it. We shall see.

In other news, my personal email, which I've had since the mid-1990s, has winked out of existence. I can't sign in, and mail sent to it bounces back with a no-such-email-exists message. My guess is that it was hacked--again!--and used to do something so awful Yahoo killed it. I've begun the process of getting it back, but I'm angry and worried I'll lose the contact list if they can't or won't restore it.

Maryn, who doesn't know what more she can do to safeguard it

sassandgroove
04-08-2014, 06:13 PM
oh man that sucks. Not only do I not want to lose my contacts, I keep a lot of my email from family and friends and I don't want to lose that either.

Maryn
04-08-2014, 10:13 PM
Same here. At one time I kept a separate list of people's emails, but after a while I just trusted my contacts list. I don't know if I can find some of those again. I did notify my writing group and nuclear family of the problem and gave them an alternate email, but man, what a pain. Not a peep from Yahoo, either.

Maryn, hoping this means they're working on it

Komnena
04-10-2014, 06:46 PM
That sucks, Maryn.
I went for a short walk this morning. Less than a mile. My legs are unbelievably stiff.I have no bounce.

sassandgroove
04-10-2014, 06:51 PM
keep it up and you'll get less stiff and stronger. :)
Maryn, any luck with your email?

Maryn
04-10-2014, 06:56 PM
Nope. "May take up to 24 hours" is now past 60 hours. They make a point of not having a phone number the public can find. I'm at a loss. Do I just give up the personal and financial email I've kept close to the vest for twenty years?

Maryn, increasingly pissy

sassandgroove
04-10-2014, 07:09 PM
does this help?
http://www.ehow.com/facts_6940703_do-yahoo_-customer-service-phone_.html

Maryn
04-10-2014, 11:05 PM
It does. Now all I need is somebody who doesn't hate the phone like I do to make those calls. It's ridiculous, but I have to like, gear up, to make a simple phone call.

Maryn, weirdo

sassandgroove
04-10-2014, 11:45 PM
I do too. And as a secretary that is not always a good thing. But I find I can use email for more and more things work related so that's good.

mario_c
04-11-2014, 08:17 AM
Yahoo customer service is notoriously bad. Good luck with resolving the issue, Maryn!

Yeah, calling a company for service - we still have to do that? Especially a company that's all about online. Lame.

Maryn
04-11-2014, 05:07 PM
Someone suggested I tweet about it, which got me a response--to do exactly what I'd already done twice, which is fill out their "trouble with account" form and a way for them to contact me online. I need to call them today.

Maryn, not as cranky as last night

sassandgroove
04-11-2014, 06:19 PM
dorks

Maryn
04-11-2014, 07:18 PM
My first "real" job, when I was just out of college, was in customer service. While I hated it, I did it better than most businesses do it now. It's kind of sad that a great many large businesses, both internet and in-person, don't seem to mind their deserved reputations for bad customer service and make no effort to effect actual changes, although they mouth "every effort being made" platitudes.

Take our cable upgrade last fall. The cable company, known for appalling service, now promises they will have the person there when they say they will. They did, but he was an independent contractor, not their own employee, paid by the job. He did so much wrong that we had to wait several days before we had full service, and the "real" employee basically had to tear out everything the on-time contractor installed.

Maryn, who should go live in a stone cottage in the woods

Komnena
04-12-2014, 06:59 AM
Any luck yet, Maryn?

Maryn
04-12-2014, 05:27 PM
After holding for 50 minutes(!), I got to talk with the rather chirpy Steven, who asked me some security questions, then told me my account had been deleted for violation of Terms of Service.

Talk about gobsmacked! I asked for details--what did I do? He said they do not store the offense. Is there a way to ask for a review? No. Is there an appeals process? No. Is there a way to let me access the contacts list, since I've had the account for so very long? No.

So essentially, one person's decision, which could have been wrong, or could have been based on what some hacker does with a hacked account--which this has been, four times--got me "disappeared" with no way to get it restored. I'm very, very angry. And I still have about a dozen sites to contact to change my email, many of which make you jump through a series of hoops. Fidelity Investments took me nearly 20 minutes to change, and I don't expect other financial institutions to be any quicker.

/rant

Maryn, not fond of bullies

Komnena
04-13-2014, 05:06 PM
That sucks royally, Maryn!
Maybe you could complain to the Better Business Bureau.

sassandgroove
04-13-2014, 08:22 PM
wow. I've had a paid yahoo account for years. perhaps this year I will not renew it.

Maryn
04-13-2014, 08:42 PM
I've been asking around, and Yahoo's not highly regarded. Partly for security reasons, and partly for very poor customer service. There are others which do better, but they all have their weaknesses.

sassandgroove
04-13-2014, 08:45 PM
Yeah, part of why I stuck with Yahoo for so long is because I've had them for so long, I have all the emails hubby ever sent me, that kind of thing. But is google any better? I don't know what I would switch too.

Maryn
04-13-2014, 09:16 PM
I had all my old emails, too--but not any more. I can get myself pretty riled up over all they took from me for no fucking reason, pardon my language.

There's a do-in-front-of-the-TV project, copying Mr. Groove's emails to your own computer so Yahoo cannot take them from you.

Maryn, officially a bitter old woman (finally!)

Komnena
04-14-2014, 06:34 AM
I'd be bitter too.

Trevor Bruhn
04-14-2014, 07:00 AM
Hello, tubbers, after longtemps. Shortly after I got back from South America, my PC decided to go unquietly into that good night. Its ailments baffled my repair guy for a solid month, and finally we decided to pull the plug, R.I.P. the Vista OS, and put in Windows 7. Now getting used to a new system (wish it could talk like Scarlett Johansen!) and the Libre word proc system that comes with..
M., I've been happy without cable for over a year now. MLB for baseball, and a bunch of free stuff on Roku. Just added Lifetime for a series called Devious Maids (fun).

Trevor, gazing like Balboa on a vast sea of PC choices

Maryn
04-14-2014, 05:40 PM
Trevor! Good to see you. Tell us about the South America trip, if you please.

Maryn, wanting to know all about it

StoryG27
04-15-2014, 02:46 PM
Thanks for the new digs!

Everybody remember to subscribe to the thread, if that's how you roll.

Maryn, who doesn't roll but gently folds

So I made a couple wrong turns but finally found the new place. So shiny and smells nice, too.


I've seriously been contemplating getting rid of cable. When my kids were little, I did not have it. I feel like it's made us lazy.

sassandgroove
04-15-2014, 04:40 PM
do it. :)
I would but hubby won't even discuss it.

Maryn
04-15-2014, 05:39 PM
I think getting rid of cable is a good option for lots of people, depending on how you watch TV in reality and how you'd prefer to watch it in a perfect world.

If you have Netflix or Hulu or Amazon Prime, you can see series TV, without all the ads, at your convenience, plus a wide selection of not-the-best movies. (To get the really good ones and the recent ones, you often have to subscribe at the level that lets you mail DVDs back and forth. Or visit the local library.) There appears to be a fair amount of kids' programming.

In the past I had a bad habit of watching the best of what was being aired on cable. Since Mr. Maryn's retirement, I'm watching very little TV when it airs. Instead, together we're watching some series we missed.

Will there be gaps if you ditch cable? Yes. But a lot can be plugged by watching online--and if you have a newer TV, you may be able to feed what's on your computer to the larger screen, which we do.

Maryn, who still has cable, though

Komnena
04-16-2014, 06:50 PM
Those are interesting options, Maryn.

sassandgroove
04-16-2014, 07:04 PM
howdy y'all.
I posted a story for critique and I got good feedback but now I am a bit overwhelmed by all the suggestions. I guess I need time to absorb them a bit. but hey, I have a story! that's something. right?

Maryn
04-16-2014, 11:35 PM
Indeed. What I like to do when I have lots of feedback is let it settle for a while, then summarize it for my use in future work (Watch verb tenses for consistency or be sure to describe setting at least a little) before addressing specifics for a particular story.

I'm also able to be more objective if I save it with the critics' names stripped off. This is so I can't devalue any input because it's from this or that person, whether it's because I don't like them or because I don't think they write well. Doesn't mean they're not absolutely right. It forces me to consider every suggestion based on its merit.

Maryn, who drank at a fancy lunch out, so hopes this makes sense

sassandgroove
04-17-2014, 02:18 AM
Yes it does thanks

mario_c
04-17-2014, 03:26 AM
Good luck, Sass!

I am transitioning between jobs now. After 10 painful years and 7 soul crushing months at a company that has pretty much blighted my resume, I am now an Uber driver. Got my phone last night...but I have to buy a new car this week. The Chevy is old and held together with glue (the driver seat is held up with a damn board!) and repairs would cost more than the blue book value.
I'm waiting for the Uber salesperson to call back - yes, this is how rich Go0gle is :D They co-finance your car and give you a free iPhone for showing up. But he has to make a great offer or I'm going for a gently used sedan.
Buying a new car is a lot of work! I inherited my prior ride from the family so I'm new at this. Don't get me started on buying insurance, getting my credit report, and all that. But it will be so worth it next week.

Maryn
04-17-2014, 06:01 AM
I demand--well, I ask politely!--a picture of the new car when you get it. A new ride is exciting. Even my stupid minivans are exciting when they're new.

Maryn, whose husband is way overdue for a new car

mario_c
04-17-2014, 07:25 AM
Thanks, guys. I haven't posted pics here in, uh, ever.
A new ride is exciting, a new career is...just, wow.

Plus the new book (below, hint hint), and life is going to be great soon.

Maryn
04-17-2014, 05:24 PM
So it's true, then: these things come in threes.

Enjoy 'em all, Mario.

Mr. Maryn is goosing me toward a new computer as an early birthday present, since it looks like this 2007 one won't be able to run Windows 7 very well. More than half the hard drive is vacant (kind of like my brain), but it's not a matter of space or even processing speed.

I'd been reluctant to agree until this morning, when the damned thing froze on me when I had a massive three programs running--Word, Evernote, and Firefox. It should be able to handle that, but no-o-o!

Maryn, frustrated

Maryn
04-17-2014, 05:25 PM
Oh, almost forgot. Taking a three-day weekend starting tomorrow, so if you notice my absence, be not afraid. We're meeting family in a neutral city where the restaurants and hotels can worry about keeping the difficult ones happy.

Maryn, not sure what to pack

sassandgroove
04-17-2014, 06:05 PM
my net book is slowing down as well. and it's from 2010. maybe?

Komnena
04-18-2014, 03:44 AM
Have fun on your trip, Maryn.

mario_c
04-19-2014, 04:03 AM
Have a great 3 day weekend, Maryn.

Yes, that's Windows - on the warpath against comfy old PCs. Tiny and disposable smartphones are the future, people.
At my last day at the old job today, at first I thought Outlook was not working because I was the last person on the floor to still have XP on my workstation (which pretty much sums up my relationship with that company). Silly me, they were afraid I would launch a company-wide spam strike or something so they locked me out of my work. Gee, why would I go off all disgruntled like that?!

Komnena
04-21-2014, 05:34 AM
I can't imagine why, Mario.
I have spent the weekend with my family. It looks like my sister has acquired a dog. She appears to be a German Shepherd, Rottweiler mix with enough coonhound thrown in for her to have the long bay of that breed. We're hoping the owners turn up, however. Someone apparently spent a lot of time leash-training her.

sassandgroove
04-21-2014, 02:24 PM
Mario that sucks. On my last job I was working away on my last day trying to leave things so they could pick up where I left off and at 3 my boss said I could leave early. I told her what I was trying to do and she said not to worry about it. She left when I did. I realized later she basically escorting me out. Like I wasn't to be trusted. After I gave her everything for 4 years. I was pissed.

Komnena I hope it works out for the best with the dog.

I had a nice Easter. I had fun coloring eggs and had a nice lunch with friends. I took a nap and did a little writing too.

Maryn
04-21-2014, 06:48 PM
I always envied the people who didn't do right by the company. Instead of trying to leave things ready for their replacements in their final two weeks after giving notice, some employees simply go to lunch and never come back. Only safe if you will never, ever need a recommendation or even an employment confirmation, of course.

Maryn, who doesn't have the balls to do that sort of thing

sassandgroove
04-21-2014, 07:04 PM
Me either, I've always tried to leave on good terms. But the last two weeks can still be a freeing experience. Something goes wrong? Boss piss me off? Who cares, what are they going to do? fire me?

There was that one job though, back when I was all of 20, that I don't include on my resume. I covered for my supervisor who was late, and in front of his wife who didn't like said supervisor, my boss fired me when he found out. When she left, he begged me to stay. I realized he didn't care about me, but he didn't' want the hassle of finding a new person. I declined to stay. It was a shady place and in the long run I needed to leave anyway. They did me a favor. blah.

Komnena
04-22-2014, 05:49 PM
Morning, everybody.

sassandgroove
04-22-2014, 05:55 PM
howdy!
whazzup?!

Maryn
04-22-2014, 06:09 PM
My Twitter was hacked last night. Is there no end to this crap? While I was away, my debit card was used for a $600 purchase in Valley Stream, New York. (Luckily, I'm not liable.) But sheesh, this is getting ridiculous, that there seems to be no security anywhere but AW.

Maybe I should just never leave.

Maryn, who'd consider that

sassandgroove
04-22-2014, 07:37 PM
wow. I'm sorry.
Sass- who should be working on a spreadsheet.

Maryn
04-22-2014, 10:36 PM
Yeah, my frustrations with things online is large, but I don't have to look very hard to find someone who's got real problems.

While we were traveling, I read the paper with more attention than I ever do at home. Man, the world is a terrible place. 250 girls kidnaped in Nigeria for going to school, and nobody's looking very hard. The ugly ones will most likely be maids and cooks, and the pretty ones sex slaves. How is this not on the front page? And how the fuck do I know more about the Kardashians than the group which did this, and claims nearly 4000 deaths in Nigeria this year?

Maryn, not a fan of online news feeds

sassandgroove
04-22-2014, 10:39 PM
Wow.

sassandgroove
04-22-2014, 11:11 PM
I know- where is the outrage for things that are happening elsewhere, like anti-gay laws in Uganda? stuff like that. People get all up in arms about what the guy on duck dynasty said and are oblivious to things that matter.

Maryn
04-23-2014, 01:53 AM
When you and I run the world, things will be different!

Maryn, who's edited nearly all day

sassandgroove
04-23-2014, 02:14 AM
Bwa ha ha

Maryn
04-23-2014, 06:03 PM
Good morning, everybody.

Maryn, yawning

sassandgroove
04-23-2014, 06:23 PM
howdy. is there coffee. I woke up at 330 and moved to the couch. bleah.

but on the bright side I figured out how to fix my nano novel.

Maryn
04-23-2014, 06:24 PM
If one night's crummy sleep gives you the insight to fix a novel, that's totally worth it. Here, let's start a fresh pot. Shall we do ten cups, or twelve?

Maryn, recommending twelve

sassandgroove
04-23-2014, 06:39 PM
12.
mmmm coffee
But I'll start to feel tired around 2pm I bet.
Sass- who doesn't have anything wacky or funny to post.

Russ Mars
04-23-2014, 09:16 PM
Good morning, or afternoon to those to the east of me.

I haven't been here in quite a while, and when I went to the HOL (the old one) and saw that it was closed, I figured you all moved in order to ditch me. Well, a little bird told me where you all are, but nice try anyway. ;)

My parents pulled that once while I was in the military--moved and changed phone number without letting me know right away. I tried getting in touch with them and discovered I was an abandoned child. We all laugh about it to this day, but sometimes I still suspect it wasn't an oversight.

sassandgroove
04-23-2014, 10:17 PM
man that used to be one of my main fears! whenever they were late to pick me up or anything, I was sure they'd decided they didn't want me anymore. Once my dad got injured at work and couldn't get me. I rode the bus home to find no one there, and the person he'd sent to get me had gone to the school. They figured out what happened and came to the house, but I had a scary few minutes where I just knew they'd left.

Russ Mars
04-23-2014, 10:28 PM
Sassy, maybe we should start our own club...Friends of the Friendless or something like that.

sassandgroove
04-23-2014, 10:32 PM
our slogan can be, "I'll sit with you at lunch."

Russ Mars
04-23-2014, 10:38 PM
:)

Maryn
04-23-2014, 11:28 PM
The summer between high school and college, I worked at the city's pool. One day when I got home, my mom announced she'd sold my bed. I wasn't to leave for college for several more weeks*.

Maryn, slow to take a hint

*It's a better story without the facts. My dad's MS had just been diagnosed, his employer had promptly fired him, and my mom's scramble to find a job with insurance meant a fast move for them. But that part's sad and desperate. We don't need none of that here!

Maryn
04-23-2014, 11:30 PM
In other news, I just finished the first round of my edits. It was not bad at all. Startling to find the goofs which made it to the final polished version, including a spelling error. (How the hell did that happen?) But there wasn't anything which suggests the editor thinks I suck, which is always my first concern.

Maryn, short on confidence

Russ Mars
04-24-2014, 03:41 AM
And after all that, it's further startling to see the goofs that make it into print.

Komnena
04-24-2014, 02:51 PM
Welcome back, Russ!

sassandgroove
04-24-2014, 05:01 PM
Oh I catch typos in novels sometimes. We're all human I guess.
Doesn't make me feel less stupid when I make them though.
hello everyone.
Sass- who wrote yesterday and is on a roll.

Maryn
04-24-2014, 05:44 PM
Oh, this is lovely. Late yesterday I got a PM at another site I visit (where I occasionally see our beloved Russ) from someone seeking readers, asking wouldn't I please go over his screenplay? Apparently he doesn't remember calling me the c-word six weeks back. I reminded him, with a link, and he said he was joking (which was a lie) and that he was sorry to have offended me, and wouldn't I read?

Uh, no. You don't get to behave like that, announce you're sorry, and everything's fine.

Maryn, who holds a grudge very well

Russ Mars
04-25-2014, 08:47 PM
Welcome back, Russ!Thanks, Komnena...and howdy, all.

And, Maryn, beloved? Hm, beheaded I'd believe, but beloved? :D

sassandgroove
04-25-2014, 10:17 PM
when I used to teach preshool if a kid hit another kid and got in trouble, he would say, "I said I was sorry." I got so tired of saying that. I would try to explain not hitting in the first place. I asked if the hurt went away when someone apologized to them. but they'd still hit each other and say, "I said I was sorry."
but their excuse was that they were 4.

Maryn
04-26-2014, 12:06 AM
I've been talking back-channel with another member there who tells me he thinks several of the members who totally cannot get along, the ones who engage in name-calling sorts of behavior, may well be somewhere on the autism spectrum.

While that may well be true, one of my online friends here at AW is on the spectrum, but he's a pleasure to interact with. He may not get what's expected of him by others, but he knows what is appropriate behavior.

Maryn, who only goes there for the booze

Komnena
04-27-2014, 03:40 PM
Morning has broken. I wish somebody would either fix it or make it be afternoon. I hate insomnia!!!!!!!!!

Maryn
04-27-2014, 05:25 PM
Oh, ugh! Insomnia sucks mightily. Not only does it rob you of your needed rest, but it ruins the next day. I don't know about you, but I can manage only the essentials, and I'm a bottomless well of gloom and irritability.

Maryn, who slept

sassandgroove
04-27-2014, 06:08 PM
My dogs woke me. I usually put them out then lay on the couch but this morning about every ten minutes they had something to bark at. Bah.

mario_c
04-27-2014, 10:39 PM
The only thing worse than insomnia is forced insomnia. Went to a birthday party for a city friend, missed the last train back to CT in the AM hours. Pro tip: across the proverbial 110th St, AKA far uptown after midnight, subway service slows WAY down. Spring for a cab (Uber car?! :D) or get ready for an all-nighter. Which would have been fine 20 years ago, now I'm too old and fiscally tight for that sort of revelry.
*is going back to bed*

Maryn
04-27-2014, 10:41 PM
That explains the occasional person sleeping in an NYC doorway.

Maryn, who sees some who don't appear homeless

sassandgroove
04-28-2014, 02:16 AM
Ugh sorry Mario.
I just took an hour nap. Where did the day go?

Komnena
04-28-2014, 04:09 PM
Morning, everybody. Harking back to an earlier discussion, my father actually did leave me at a farm once. I was okay. They had lots of animals for me to play with and Dad gave me some pretty good bribes not to tell my mother. Unfortunately, not one of the puppies I was playing with.

Maryn
04-28-2014, 05:07 PM
Hi, everyone. It's light out so early these recent mornings. Even though there's nothing that feels like spring, the signs are there. My daffodils are blooming, the stupid #$%^*! robins are building a new nest daily on top of the porch light (which we knock down daily, since they're both noisy and hugely messy), and the grass is greening up nicely except in the shadowy front where moss has a strong foothold.

Yesterday we ordered me an early birthday present, a new computer, since I'm running XP and it's no longer supported, leaving it vulnerable to malware. I was unhappy that MS Word is an annual-fee thing now, or a very expensive, install-once program. Guess I'll be OpenOffice on all devices.

Maryn, not willing to pay that much

sassandgroove
04-28-2014, 05:36 PM
Good morning.
I found a luna moth on our porch yesterday. That was the most exciting part of the day.

Maryn
04-28-2014, 05:52 PM
I'm not sure I've ever seen a luna moth, although we had this *huge* luna caterpillar a few summers back. It was my avatar for a while.

Maryn, who can't remember yesterday but remembers old avatars

sassandgroove
04-28-2014, 05:59 PM
I still remember the avatar you had when I met you, it was a person "holding" the sun.

Russ Mars
04-28-2014, 08:38 PM
Morning has broken. I wish somebody would either fix it or make it be afternoon. I hate insomnia!!!!!!!!!I agree. Insomnia is quite detestable. It's just one of the many symptoms of my PTSD. Thank goodness my state has legalized the medicine that works better, with fewer side effects, than anything the VA ever prescribed to me. And now, even the VA recognizes the benefit of cannabis and leaves us alone about its use.

Tried it?

Komnena
04-28-2014, 11:01 PM
Nope. It's not legal here. You can drink yourself into a stupor here but not smoke your way into a stupor.

Russ Mars
04-28-2014, 11:10 PM
Nope. It's not legal here. You can drink yourself into a stupor here but not smoke your way into a stupor.Of course they've got it backwards. There's all kinds of evidence of the dangers of alcohol, and almost none for Mary Jane. I'd be completely in support of outlawing the booze and legalizing the hemp.

Maryn
04-29-2014, 12:16 AM
Damn it, I want both. We haven't had marijuana in a great many years, but we've talked about visiting places where it's legal to reacquaint ourselves with our youth.

Maryn, who spent many happy hours doing jigsaw puzzles, watching TV, and drinking Diet Coke while stoned

sassandgroove
04-29-2014, 12:47 AM
it doesn't make sense, especially since hemp is a great renewable resource for things like paper.

mario_c
04-29-2014, 05:50 AM
At Maryn's request:
http://www.mariocaiti.com/cgi-bin/images/myNewCar_webSafeSmall.png

sassandgroove
04-29-2014, 06:33 AM
Tornado warning for my area.

Komnena
04-29-2014, 06:49 AM
Be safe.

Komnena
04-29-2014, 03:32 PM
You okay, Sass?

sassandgroove
04-29-2014, 05:56 PM
I'm ok.
love ya!

Maryn
04-29-2014, 05:57 PM
Sassy, you have someplace safe to go whether you're at work or at home, right? And maybe a go bag with some necessities? Be sure to charge your phone, too, because land lines can go down. (So can cell towers, I guess.)

Mario, the color is luscious! You, sir, have excellent taste. There's something about a rich blue, bright but not too bright, that totally pleases me.

Yesterday I was at Kohl's and somebody scraped my door a little. Since it was just paint damage, no dent, to my five-year-old minivan, I decided I would not care. Definitely the way to go, yes?

Maryn, betting it shows more when she washes the car

sassandgroove
04-29-2014, 07:02 PM
we don't have a landline anymore. my office is in the bottom floor of our big concrete building, the hallway outside my office is the designated area to gather for severe weather.
Last night I was sleepy and while we sort of had a plan we could have implemented it better. Like having the dogs leashes waiting at the bottom of the stairs, because they get excited when we go to the place where we keep the leashes to get them. I ended up sitting in the car in our basement garage with the dogs to keep them corralled, and Mr. Groove keep an eye on the TV ready to run down to join me when he needed too. Thankfully the storm that was coming towards us shifted north a bit. Still scary and lots of damage and some loss of life. I am grateful we made it through, we didn't even lose power. It didn't pass until after midnight. The storms kept dissipating then firing up again so I didn't feel like I could go to bed until the storms were past us completely. I sent Hubby to bed because I'd napped at 8, and then I woke up on the couch in front of the TV around 130am to find the storms at the Georgia border so I went to bed.

Maryn
04-29-2014, 07:06 PM
Scary-scary-scary! But I'm glad you have a plan and that it covers you and the doggies, too.

We talk about getting rid of the land line, but I don't see it happening. Neither of us keeps the cell at hand all the time, and we tend to use it for just-family, since we're not phone talkers. I do like to have it on me when I'm out, but that means it lives in my purse when I'm home.

Maryn, old and set in her ways, harumph

sassandgroove
04-29-2014, 07:18 PM
it was strictly a money decision on our part. As soon as AT&T announced we could have internet without the phone, it was gone. It only cut around $20 a month, but $20 is $20. That's $240 a year. AT&T emails us every so often trying to entice us to add the phone back, but since they keep raising the price of internet, I don't see that happening.

Russ Mars
04-29-2014, 08:30 PM
Damn it, I want both. We haven't had marijuana in a great many years, but we've talked about visiting places where it's legal to reacquaint ourselves with our youth.

Maryn, who spent many happy hours doing jigsaw puzzles, watching TV, and drinking Diet Coke while stonedBeing a good Irishman, booze is one of the four major food groups to me. So how shocked am I to discover that as I've gotten older, it's losing its attraction? I rarely drink these days. My doctor is delighted, telling me to stick with the weed. And in California, that's as easy as getting pizza. Yep, that's right, with just a single call (and possession of a medical marijuana card) dispensaries deliver it right to my front door.

Now, to all of you living in tornado country, please hang the %$#& on!

Maryn
04-29-2014, 10:18 PM
Hey, Russ, care to explain the significance of the footprints in your avatar? Or did you just really like what the Dr. Scholl foot mapping center at Wal*Mart did for you?

I just did the treadmill, since it's a chilly 45 and raining steadily. For once I did a respectable amount of time while watching most of a movie. It wasn't a great movie, but it kept my mind off my exertion, which is really all I need.

Maryn, not a fan of motion

Russ Mars
04-29-2014, 10:42 PM
Since my "Need more boxes" avatar slipped out of relevance after Pandora and I finally got more or less permanently settled, four moves in three months later, I decided to ditch it. I had no idea what I wanted to replace it with. For some damn reason I can't even recall (I really miss having some semblance of the short-term memory of my youth), I liked the footprints.

But, now that you've asked, I'm on a quest for another avatar choice that I can more fully explain and justify, should you ask again...damn it.

My final answer is one I'm finding quite useful when I'm questioned about anything I do that may not overtly make a lot of sense: because it pleases me.

I'll try to think of a better answer, but I'll probably just settle on another avatar before I come up with it.

Maryn
04-29-2014, 10:56 PM
That's how I select avatars, although there was one I kept longer than usual because people whose prude viewpoints I disliked kept reporting it, and the site's owner kept telling them they were wrong.

(It was a Michaelangelo statue seen from the back, with a hat poorly photoshopped atop its ass, and the user heading "asshat" or something along those lines.)

Maryn, blathering

Russ Mars
04-30-2014, 12:11 AM
I remember your asshat avatar. I gave you a bad time about it, jokingly.

And it just so happens you've touched on a topic that's been on my mind a lot lately, one that will really make me sound like a grumpy old guy lamenting the loss of the good old days. So be it.

Do you remember the days when, if someone didn't like what you said or did, they dealt with it and moved on? And it was said just like that; "I don't like it." Nowadays, it's trendy not to simply dislike something, but to be offended. And to be offended, society now seems to believe, is unacceptable and is actionable by interference from some government agency or other, and you may be sued or arrested.

Is "sticks and stones..." even heard and considered by schoolchildren anymore? Understanding and embracing that used to be a sign of maturity. The idea being, of course, that what other people said could hurt nothing but your feelings, and adults were responsible for their own damn emotions. And if you were too sensitive, it was your problem to learn to cope, not others to adjust everything so as not to offend you. Not anymore. Now, everyone must tiptoe around, careful to say and do nothing that might offend thin-skinned, emotional weaklings lest they sic their attorney on you or, ahem, have you banned from their presence.

If I were you, I'd use the asshat avatar again. If someone is offended (everything offends someone these days), let them simply learn to cope with it. That's how character and maturity are developed. Well, it used to be.

Maryn
04-30-2014, 01:27 AM
I'm inching ever closer to shaking my broom at the kids passing on their bikes. I can get going on quite a rant over the change in owning one's words and in not allowing mere words to damage you. Yes, hate speech is real and should not be tolerated, but people demanding the heads of the person who suggested they might drive more attentively or take their cell phones outside the theatre? Sheesh. (Did you see the thread here at AW linking to a news item about a driver who killed a child on a bike--who is suing the family for her distress?)

And don't start me on shame, or young men and entitlement. Seriously, the guy who called me a cunt could not understand why I will not read his script even after he apologized?

Maryn, trying not to start a rant

Russ Mars
04-30-2014, 07:22 PM
When I read your post about that, I had no desire to rant. I went immediately to trying to figure out his coordinates to call in a missile strike. Is that politically incorrect?

Good morning, all.

Maryn
04-30-2014, 07:56 PM
Screw PC. I went to the trouble to learn his real name, but stopped short of finding out where he lives. Unlike that other guy, who I can now drop in on at will--and call his cat by name.

It's amazing to me that site isn't better moderated. I reported the cunt post. No action taken.

I know, I know, I shouldn't even go there.

Maryn, who needs additional playgrounds to visit

Russ Mars
04-30-2014, 11:18 PM
Ha! Screw PC is right, and that's exactly what I'm talking about. If one doesn't use the Big-Brother terms and procedures, one is in violation. Never mind out and out vulgarisms. Simply expressing a differing opinion, even if expressed in an articulate, socially-acceptable manner, is often stupidly viewed as bullying (as was explained to me here for some benign comment I'd made) or a terrorist act. It's how the sheep have been conditioned to react.

I mean, when someone is offended by a Dr. Seuss book, it's over the top (full story (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2617067/What-Grinch-Father-asks-public-library-ban-Dr-Seuss-book-Hop-On-Pop-encourages-violence.html)). Thank goodness the Canadians didn't cave.

Maryn
05-01-2014, 12:13 AM
Since I'm among friends here, I don't mind saying that I enjoy an occasional hop on the pop of our kids. It's not as violent as you might think!

I'm back from my writing group, which seems to have reverted to me writing and the others coming up with fine excuses and reasons. IMO, if you want to write, you will. If what you want is to be a writer, not so much.

We're having a rainy day, not unusual here in the slightest, and I did get a good laugh out of my friend. She arrived pretty wet and immediately started dabbing paper napkins at her hair and face. "I'm just soaked!"

"But it had to have been raining when you left home." It began somewhere around five in the morning, so I was pretty safe there. "Don't you have an umbrella?" I have at least three in the car, and if my friend, who is poor, doesn't have a working umbrella, I could hand over the blue one and never miss it.

"Umbrellas are so much bother. You get out of your car, get wet while you stand there opening it, then come into the place and have to put it down outside the door, so you get wet some more. Then you have to remember where you put it." She dabs at herself some more. "I'm just soaked!"

Well, duh. Yes, you are, because you deliberately chose to be too lazy to use your umbrella, silly woman!

Maryn, who didn't use hers but didn't get all that wet, either

sassandgroove
05-01-2014, 01:09 AM
People reported your asshat avatar?!?! I thought it was awesome.
I really don't understand this whole culture where people almost feel it's their duty to be offended.

Geez, wear a raincoat then...

Russ Mars
05-01-2014, 07:18 PM
People reported your asshat avatar?!?! I thought it was awesome.
I really don't understand this whole culture where people almost feel it's their duty to be offended.

Geez, wear a raincoat then...:Clap:

Russ Mars
05-01-2014, 07:20 PM
Since I'm among friends here, I don't mind saying that I enjoy an occasional hop on the pop of our kids. It's not as violent as you might think!

:roll:

Maryn
05-01-2014, 09:48 PM
If I've gotten a laugh out of you, my work here is done.

It's hard to believe this father is serious. All the real problems in the world--even the tidy Canadian world--and he picks this as his issue? What a dolt, eh?

Maryn, faking Canadian-ness, eh?

Russ Mars
05-02-2014, 12:31 AM
I had no intention of laughing today, and now you've gone and admitted you made me do it. I'm offended. I want to talk to your boss.

Maryn
05-02-2014, 01:35 AM
No intention of laughing today? I know, sometimes it's a challenge to hold onto one's grumpiness. I'm pretty good at it, though. And wait until you see me with a grudge!

I need to take a break from That Other Site where I see Russ on occasion. There are just too many people who I'd like to invite to suck lime-green donkey balls. With long hairs on them. I get sick of trying to make the board better. If people just want to piss on one another, so be it. I don't have to be there telling them to zip up and reminding them that place could be a good resource instead of a cesspool. I'm not the board's ref, mommy, or vice principal.

Maryn, who went for a long cold walk instead of flying off the handle

sassandgroove
05-02-2014, 05:04 PM
you mean not every place is like AW?

Maryn
05-02-2014, 06:20 PM
Regrettably, no. It's a pleasant fantasy to unleash AW's mods on that board, allow them to delete what's inappropriate or move heated off-topic posts to a landfill of such posts, issue stern warnings with threat of ban if it happens again, and follow through. They could clean it up in a matter of three days.

Maryn, whose fantasies aren't always about sex, see?

calieber
05-03-2014, 06:31 AM
Been gone a while. Three months. The HOL moved to new digs while I was gone, I see. Nice drapes.

I blame a failed attempt at self-discipline. I told myself "no message boards until you finish your nominally paid work*" and it half worked: I mostly didn't go on message boards, but I did find other ways to procrastinate, so I still didn't get anything done before 2 AM, I just also didn't go on boards.

It's worse on a different board, where it looks like I skulked away after being bested in a political argument, even though I don't think either of those things is true.

I do have two job interviews next week, at least one of which is for a job in an office like a grown-up, and if that happens discipline will be imposed on me and I won't get any more foolish ideas like that. I'll get different foolish ideas.

*My primary client -- ok, only client -- is now over $1000 in arrears, but they are supposed to be paying me.

Maryn
05-03-2014, 05:32 PM
We wondered what had become of you!

That's good to hear, the possibility of an office job. It can be unpleasant, but it's only soul-crushing if you let it be too important. Make sure your off-work hours are richly fulfilling and you'll be fine.

I only go to one other board, where lack of oversight is making it a hideous place to be, all these grown men (yes, every one of the bad folks is male) hurling insults and worse at one another while, very quietly, a small group of us try to discuss the board's subject, a particular kind of writing.

Maryn, who'd be better off spending the time writing

sassandgroove
05-03-2014, 08:48 PM
Working on novel while I hemmorage money. Today it's tires but it won't stop there.

Welcome back caliber

Maryn
05-03-2014, 11:28 PM
I hear you on hemorrhaging money. Sometimes we'll have that going on for weeks or months, then it stops and you wait for the other shoe to drop.

Automotive stuff is usually a big part of it. I should have learned to fix cars instead of going to college, huh?

Mr. Maryn's car is ten now, and we're presuming it won't last a lot longer even though it's fairly low mileage. (Nice, short commute to work.) We've decided that unless our needs change, when it goes we won't replace it. Most of the time we could make one car work, and when we can't, there's the bus and taxis.

Maryn, whose minivan is uber-uncool, though

Komnena
05-04-2014, 12:43 AM
Welcome back, calieber!

sassandgroove
05-06-2014, 05:35 PM
howdy. so we only need two tires but we needed a part to align the car correctly so they won't wear out like these two did.

however, I have been writing a lot lately.
Sass- who has cookies and is not afraid to use them.

Maryn
05-06-2014, 09:32 PM
Ooh, what kind of cookies?

Maryn, living vicariously

sassandgroove
05-06-2014, 11:29 PM
sugar, peanut butter, oatmeal raisin and choc chip. I bought them for a work thing. there are a bunch left. I ate the broken one when I was putting them on a platter. ;)

Maryn
05-07-2014, 12:35 AM
I'm pretty sure the broken ones don't even count.

Maryn, big on adverbs

calieber
05-07-2014, 02:51 AM
Interviewed for the office job. I'm not sure how it went, but I'm not replaying bits I screwed up in my mind, and I normally do that with everything.

sassandgroove
05-07-2014, 05:23 PM
Maryn, right, when you break them the calories fall out don't they?

Calieber, good luck.

Maryn
05-07-2014, 05:26 PM
I gripe about Mr. Maryn a lot, but he's the one taking on the dentist's overbilling in violation of the agreement with our insurer, for which I am grateful. The dentist is newish, took over our "good" dentist's practice when he became so deaf he could no longer communicate with us patients--and brought in all new office staff, letting go the competent ones our former dentist had. We have not received a single bill which was correct since the change-over.

Maryn, thinking of leaving except she likes her hygienist

Komnena
05-08-2014, 05:39 AM
Today I reached 7,000 words on my shingles project. At some point I'm going to have to find a better name for it than bored3. Perhaps boring3.

Maryn
05-08-2014, 04:59 PM
I rarely have a title until at least the second draft. Still, I'd probably find a placeholder that didn't make me wonder, What's the use?

I am currently writing Medieval Fantasy. Catchy, huh?

Maryn, okay at titles, but later

sassandgroove
05-08-2014, 06:57 PM
mine is called first draft. clever eh?

Maryn
05-08-2014, 07:31 PM
Wow, that is good. But what will you call the next novel?

Oh, wait. I suppose by the time you begin the next one, this one will have itself a title, and you can call it First Draft, too.

Mr. Maryn and I are bickering today. He needs to understand that because he is all hot to do something which requires my participation is not the same as me being equally ready to do it, whatever it may be. He also needs to understand the way to end my irritation is with an actual admission of speaking hastily, making unfounded assumptions, or--OMG!--an actual apology rather than proceeding as if nothing had happened.

Easy to say here, much harder to say to his face. He went out, and I was glad.

Maryn, "enjoying" too much togetherness

Komnena
05-09-2014, 05:43 AM
Sorry to hear you and Mr. Maryn are bickering.
I'll have to consider your point about titles. The characters and I are still getting acquainted. One is intent on claiming a bigger role than I intended for him to have.

Maryn
05-09-2014, 04:50 PM
Pushy little snot, isn't he? Your character, I mean.

We are past the bickering. Long-term marriages have their highs and lows. I'm just glad to have a place to gripe.

Maryn, who uses it perhaps too much

Komnena
05-09-2014, 05:08 PM
He would be obnoxious if he were not concerned about his daughter and unborn grandchildren.

mario_c
05-10-2014, 12:23 AM
I rarely have a title until at least the second draft. Still, I'd probably find a placeholder that didn't make me wonder, What's the use?

I am currently writing Medieval Fantasy. Catchy, huh?

Maryn, okay at titles, but later


mine is called first draft. clever eh?
How about "The Novel That Will Sell Like Hotcakes And Will Make Me Rich"? Dream big! (Yes, the screenplay for American Pie was sold with a title like that.)
Actually, one cool thing about changing titles is if it doesn't sell at first, change the title and try again. :D

Komnena
05-10-2014, 12:26 AM
Okay, Mario, I'll call it Hotcakes.
Its name is now changed.

sassandgroove
05-10-2014, 06:59 PM
My hubby is that way too sometimes.
Speaking of titles of drafts I should go work on mine.
(The draft not the title)

juniper
05-10-2014, 09:06 PM
I'm not replaying bits I screwed up in my mind, and I normally do that with everything.

Good luck with the job!

... I wonder, does everyone do the replaying screwed up bits? I try to stop it, but I'm never as clever or quick or charming the first time as I could be an hour later, when I've had time to go back over it all.

(umm, this isn't a private thread, is it? seems to be just a few in here)

Maryn
05-10-2014, 09:15 PM
Oh, god, of course we all do that. I still mentally smack myself for my failings committed decades ago.

Maryn, who could've been a contender

Komnena
05-11-2014, 05:58 AM
Welcome, juniper!

Maryn
05-11-2014, 07:21 PM
Man, there are a lot of people for whom the US's Mothers Day is a major stressor. (Hmm, is that -er or -or? My spell check doesn't like either one.) My mom, gone many years, wasn't perfect, but she's largely responsible for who I am as an adult, so I'll honor that.

Maryn, who likes herself well enough, although she's not perfect, either

sassandgroove
05-11-2014, 08:24 PM
Juniper - the more the merrier.
I know what you mean Maryn.

sassandgroove
05-11-2014, 08:28 PM
I always thought I would be a momma and so far I'm not and I'm a little sad today. I don't regret anything, it's just a little thorn.

Russ Mars
05-12-2014, 05:49 PM
Man, there are a lot of people for whom the US's Mothers Day is a major stressor. (Hmm, is that -er or -or? My spell check doesn't like either one.) My mom, gone many years, wasn't perfect, but she's largely responsible for who I am as an adult, so I'll honor that.

Maryn, who likes herself well enough, although she's not perfect, eitherMake your spell-check feature learn your first choice, stressor. The misspelled stresser hasn't made it to the real words list yet.

Mother's Day doesn't stress me out, but my mother still does sometimes. Tit for tat. I'm pretty sure I stressed her out a few times over the years.

Happy Monday, everyone!

Maryn
05-12-2014, 06:11 PM
Good morning, Housekins. Mr. Maryn has a two-hour conference call which started a few minutes ago, meaning I'm free to run some errands without him. See Ya!

Maryn, finding 24/7 togetherness is a stressor

Komnena
05-13-2014, 06:19 AM
How did the errands go, Maryn?

Maryn
05-13-2014, 04:56 PM
Got a few items ticked off my list, but some were not what I expected them to be in terms of quality. Sigh.

FYI, I'm headin' out of Dodge later this morning and returning Wednesday night, so you all will have to carouse on your own.

Maryn, going to see a concert

iLion
05-13-2014, 07:57 PM
Shouldn't you actually be listening to the concert?

sassandgroove
05-13-2014, 08:03 PM
ha! I "see" people do that all the time.

iLion
05-13-2014, 08:05 PM
Well, I may go listen in at the local art museum this weekend.

Komnena
05-15-2014, 07:36 AM
Friday Mr.Chunk gets his teeth cleaned. Tomorrow night he will have to be shut up without food.

sassandgroove
05-15-2014, 05:26 PM
sad kitty.

Maryn
05-15-2014, 05:26 PM
Thank goodness I read that before the concert. It's a whole different experience, listening to it! ;)

We did our usual, walk from the hotel, in this case not very close. (Which is okay, because we walk for exercise.) But the bad thing was that the city is hilly. The hotel is high, the concert venue low, so getting there, no problem. Getting back? It felt like one big hill (puff-puff-gasp!), with some seedy neighborhoods where I was not at ease walking.

Oh, well, we survived, and went hiking the next day, too, although Mr. Maryn left his compass in the car (so glad we brought it) and we got turned around and ended up going farther than we meant to. Plus he got a blister.

Maryn, whose hiking boots fit

sassandgroove
05-15-2014, 06:02 PM
glad you are back and enjoyed your concert.

spoonflipper
05-15-2014, 11:22 PM
Sassandgroove- hello, friend!

;)

Maryn
05-16-2014, 12:24 AM
Someone you'd like us to meet, Miss Sassy?

Maryn, glad to meet spoonflipper but not yet volunteering her spoons

mario_c
05-16-2014, 06:08 PM
So, I'm about to lose my job and my car. How's your day going?

Maryn
05-16-2014, 06:12 PM
Oh, no! Sending good vibes your way.

Maryn, with a hug

sassandgroove
05-17-2014, 04:39 PM
Hey! Spoonflipper is one of my good friends from when I lived in Los Angeles. We haven't talked in a while but I saw her here and we are catching up. :-)
Spoon meet my goods friends here! :)

sassandgroove
05-17-2014, 04:39 PM
Oh there are more posts. Mario, hugs!

spoonflipper
05-17-2014, 08:06 PM
Hey! Spoonflipper is one of my good friends from when I lived in Los Angeles. We haven't talked in a while but I saw her here and we are catching up. :-)
Spoon meet my goods friends here! :)

Helloooo! :e2coffee:

Yes, we used to do donuts in parking lots while swooning over Ewan McGregor heheheh.

Komnena
05-17-2014, 10:40 PM
Welcome spoonflipper!

Maryn
05-18-2014, 12:11 AM
Back from The Kid's graduation ceremony and will be going out to dinner later. I'm giving her some alone-time with her dad for a while, since I need a break from all these humans.

Maryn, shifty-eyed loner

Komnena
05-18-2014, 12:50 AM
I am now waiting to see if California Chrome can keep his Triple Crown bid alive/

sassandgroove
05-18-2014, 07:38 PM
Helloooo! :e2coffee:

Yes, we used to do donuts in parking lots while swooning over Ewan McGregor heheheh.
Telling my secrets! ;):tongue

sassandgroove
05-18-2014, 08:36 PM
I know the origin of spoonflipper. I'd tell you what sassandgroove means or where it came from but I don't remember. haha. Folks around here usually call me Sassy and I refer to hubby as Mr. Groove. writerterri calls me sassypants.

these days I've been swooning over Tom Hiddleston and Jeremy Renner.

Maryn, congrats to the Kid.

Maryn
05-18-2014, 09:14 PM
What did you think of Renner's appearance in American Hustle? That hair!

The Kid has completed the first leg of her trip home and is cooling her heels in Chicago. She should be boarding soon, home in a few hours.

It was good to have her around, but the visit was short. (She's got tons of grading to do, due Wednesday.) As a result, we stayed up late talking every night and I'm pretty wiped out. It may be a nap day, and I don't like napping, since it messes up my sleep that night.

Maryn, fussy baby

mario_c
05-19-2014, 03:48 AM
I read from someone on the set that he and the cast would get their hair worked on for average 2 hours. He earned that hair the hard way!
Anyway, welcome home to your kid, and welcome Spoonflipper, Sass' LA buddy!

PS it looks like I won't be losing my job yet. I'm sorry, the first few weeks on a job are scary as hell and I'm not one to take massive change well. But I'm giving it everything I got.

sassandgroove
05-19-2014, 04:11 AM
Mario, hang in there. You are awesome and they are lucky to have you.

juniper
05-19-2014, 10:03 AM
That's good news Mario. It always takes me about 3 months before I start to feel comfortable in a new job.

I haven't seen American Hustle yet, but googling the images, wow. That's some hair. On Jennifer Lawrence too - the updo.

sassandgroove
05-19-2014, 06:49 PM
juniper is your dog driving to Petsmart? ;)

I haven't seen American hustle either but I have seen a pic of Renner from it. Oh my the hair.

I didn't get much writing done this weekend. Had to take buddy boy to the vet which was traumatic last time. THis time we got him a muzzle and spent a week getting him used to it, I walked him 40 mins before, got the muzzle on him and went in with an air of "we can do this." He did bark at the vet but I felt better knowing he couldn't bite. I think it went ok. then I got him back out to the car and took off his muzzle and he made everything alright with his dog eyes looking at me as if to say, "I love you momma."

Maryn
05-19-2014, 07:38 PM
I can understand the trauma of a vet visit, so you did well to keep the humans safe and get him adapted to what was going to happen with the muzzle as much as you could.

Mario, I'm glad to learn you're still okay job-wise. It always takes several months to get in the groove of most of the jobs I've ever had, so as long as you're giving it your consistent best efforts, that should be enough until it's second nature.

Mr. Maryn is cleaning the gutters and trimming the tree that's grown twice as tall as they're supposed to (maybe more!) and damages the roof every time there's wind.

Maryn, whose 15-foot pear tree is probably 35 feet tall

sassandgroove
05-19-2014, 08:02 PM
oh man. we need the gutters cleaned, and we realized when the trees started getting their leaves this year that we have a dead tree in our back yard. I cringe wondering how mush that will be to remove. We never can get a head financially.

Komnena
05-20-2014, 05:49 PM
We had to have a lot of work done ourselves so we feel your pain here.

sassandgroove
05-20-2014, 06:10 PM
I just don't know how we're going to take care of everything.

Komnena
05-20-2014, 07:37 PM
That's the question for me also. I'm thinking of taking a second job.
Mr. Chunk got out last night and gave us several frantic moments. I was finally able to coax him out from under the deck and get him back inside the house.

sassandgroove
05-20-2014, 10:20 PM
my heart leaps out of my chest when the dogs get out.

I have considered a second job as well but I had one for a while and the end result was I didn't get a tax refund, so I worked for what I would get in a lump sum later.

Maryn
05-21-2014, 02:10 AM
Ugh. Two straight days of line editing all day long. My eyes are bulging out of my head.

It was bad in two ways. The worse was that neither my MS Word 2003 nor OpenOffice was managing the Track Changes function properly. I ended up doing it on the one which could not do it in a linear function but at least showed what I'd done.

The other was that I was humbled by how many mistakes I'd made. Sure, some were house styles, which would have been nice to know about up-front, but some were errors in writing mechanics I had no idea I was making.

Maryn, tired and somewhat discouraged

Komnena
05-21-2014, 05:29 AM
Hotcakes is full of typos because I've done several pages in the car and I've been too intent on getting the basic story done to go back and fix the typos. I have a tendency to go off on tangents if I try to fix things before the story line is done.

Maryn
05-21-2014, 04:05 PM
I wish I could do that. If I see I've made typos or other obvious mistakes, I have to fix them. It's interrupted many a roll.

Today I need to get walking early, since we're expecting thunderstorms later. I guess the storms are when I run errands? Oh, joy.

Maryn, who needs to hit Kohl's for a return and Target for a sale

sassandgroove
05-21-2014, 05:22 PM
Instead of being discouraged, remember why you are line editing. HUG

sassandgroove
05-22-2014, 07:03 PM
what up y'all?

I saw y'all spelled ya'll. UM? the apostrophe is replacing "ou" it wouldn't be after the "a". "a" goes with "ll". and it was a graphic, which means it wasn't a typo. well it was but you know what I mean. that was worse than your instead of you're. or there instead of they're. or there instead of their. or their instead of there. ACK! Can I hide in here a while?

Maryn
05-22-2014, 07:12 PM
Oh, yes, this is a good place to hide from ignorance of others (and to embrace the ignorance of those who are in here with you, I hope).

I'm still smarting a little over those edits, now turned in. I made myself a list as I corrected things, noting exactly what errors or marginal practices I'd made or done so I don't do them again.

Not that I agreed with everything, but it's a rare comma that's worth a disagreement. For instance, I'm of the opinion that when the independent clauses are very short, the comma separating at the conjunctions is optional. My editors are not.

What do you think--are these sentences okay?
I ate yet I was still hungry.
She followed me but I didn't know it.
He loves me or he doesn't.

Maryn, taking a poll (not really)

sassandgroove
05-22-2014, 08:07 PM
ok (not really) taking the poll.
I can see where the comma might go in the first sentence, after ate. But the other two?

juniper
05-22-2014, 09:39 PM
and it was a graphic, which means it wasn't a typo. well it was but you know what I mean. that was worse than your instead of you're. or there instead of they're. or there instead of their. or their instead of there.

Yesterday at work I saw a new poster that had a horrible typo - I don't remember the word, but it wasn't even a word now ... I think an R had been replaced with an S or something ... This from a corporation's "official signage" "creative services" department ... Really? Not even a quick spell check? Sheesh. This is our image to the patients and visitors ... (I work in a hospital).



What do you think--are these sentences okay?
I ate yet I was still hungry.
She followed me but I didn't know it.
He loves me or he doesn't.


They're ok on their own I think because so short. I would understand. Although, I think a comma in the first might be nice. Something about the "yet" bugs me. And maybe the second sentence too ... but not the third. Because that's an either/or and short.

I don't know why that makes a difference to me but it does. :Shrug:

sassandgroove
05-22-2014, 10:32 PM
there's a thread here somewhere from when I worked at a marketing company. one of our sales people was trying to make a deal with an agency that was creating a display with info about preventing forest fires. The art work had a photo of trees on fire with bold letters reading, "Avoid this from happening" NO. Just no. That is wrong on so many levels. I pointed out to the sales guy but he said, "We have bigger fish to fry." It turned out it wasn't a done deal yet and he did get them to fix it after he closed the deal.

Maryn
05-23-2014, 12:41 AM
I remember that!

When I used to live in Austin, a local clothing store had a TV ad campaign in which you'd see a shot of the woods, then the same shot of a fashionably dressed woman in that unchanged setting. Then a wall, and wall plus woman. Shadowy barn, plus woman. But the voice-over made me groan aloud. "Hide... and chick. Hide... and chick." Guess whoever was reading the ad copy had no idea how to pronounce chic or what a pun was.

Maryn, shaking her head

sassandgroove
05-23-2014, 01:45 AM
Haha Hide and Chic I get it.

juniper
05-23-2014, 03:19 AM
When I used to live in Austin,

I lived in Austin, from 1986-1997. When were you there?

(Texas, I'm presuming, and not another Austin.)

calieber
05-23-2014, 08:21 AM
what up y'all?

I saw y'all spelled ya'll. UM? the apostrophe is replacing "ou" it wouldn't be after the "a". "a" goes with "ll".

Wow. I'm a lifelong Brooklynite, and I know how to spell "yal'l"

:tongue


Yesterday at work I saw a new poster that had a horrible typo - I don't remember the word, but it wasn't even a word now ... I think an R had been replaced with an S or something ... This from a corporation's "official signage" "creative services" department ...

Until about a year and a half ago, a sign in the NYC subway had the line designations wrong, and no one noticed for some time.

Maryn
05-23-2014, 05:20 PM
I left Austin, with regret, in 1982, when Mr. Maryn left academia for another field. I suppose if I'd stayed, by now I'd have skin cancer. Even though I grew up in Arizona, the deepest tans of my life were acquired at Texas's lakes and the Gulf. I even had that butterfly-pigmentation on my face that some pregnant women get, which is Nature telling you to use some freakin' sunscreen.

Maryn, who stopped deliberately tanning in the mid-80s

sassandgroove
05-23-2014, 06:23 PM
calieber, what is the apostrophe for in your version.

Maryn
05-23-2014, 09:38 PM
This ought to be interesting...

sassandgroove
05-23-2014, 10:23 PM
OMG! I was looking for info on a local election and the article I found was SO BAD! The information was ok, but oh the writing was so so so bad.
Candidate said I am married and "I have conservative values."
that is an example of this guy's sentence style. Really. He misspelled a candidate's name, he had a new paragraph for every thing a candidate said, he prefaced all the bio info with "Candidate said," instead of just listing the bio info and then quoting them on the issues. sooooooooooooooo bad. I actually wasted my lunch hour editing it and sent it to the editor and the writer. Brush up my writing skills and learn about candidates at the same time. The one whose name I recognize didn't say much at whatever event this writer went to. It must have been a group of farmers because a lot of the quotes focused on farming issues.
oh AND he had THERE instead of THEIR. Unforgivable. haha

Maryn
05-24-2014, 12:10 AM
You've got to have an editor as the gatekeeper, or both the candidate and the source look like big dumb clucks.

Maryn, medium dumb cluck

sassandgroove
05-24-2014, 12:16 AM
well it was about all the candidates in the race, I was just using the word candidate instead of names for the sentence example. But it was terrible.
And I'd say you aren't a dumb cluck at all, just human.

calieber
05-24-2014, 04:48 AM
calieber, what is the apostrophe for in your version.

For goofing around (I actually do put it in the appropriate place when I need to write the word)

Maryn
05-24-2014, 04:13 PM
Wait, so I can use apostrophes for goofing around? Cool! They're so small and compact, I can put thousands in my pocket.

Oh, shoot. I don't have any pockets just now.

Maryn, in PJs

sassandgroove
05-25-2014, 05:00 AM
W'hat u'p y'a'l'l?

I went to a wedding today. It was lovely. The bride cried during her vows, her mother, who was the officiant, also cried, so I cried. Then when I got home I cried in earnest while hugging hubby who knew just what to say and remembers that his bride cried during her vows, too.

Maryn
05-25-2014, 06:41 PM
Aww...

Mr. Maryn's organizational sweep continues. He has unearthed a box of lightbulbs from his mom's condo. Many are really weird wattages (90, 55) and strange bases which fit no light fixture. She was quite the sucker for buying things from dubious charities, which I imagine was the source of these.

In other news, we can't seem to make the old printer (c. 2001 but working great) operate from the new computer. Microsoft says it's ready to go, and the printer sits there dead, as if saying, "Am not." This is the only printer we have, so we need to get it online. I'm sure it's some sort of driver issue, but what to do about it? Clueless.

I wish I could be excited about a new computer, but I'm not. I was good with the one I had, but it ran XP and didn't have the capacity to be upgraded. So far, the new one seems interested only in updating Windows constantly, demanding to be rebooted, and laughing at our attempts to print from it.

Maryn, not feeling tech-friendly today

mario_c
05-25-2014, 07:09 PM
The lightbulbs sound very, very old. Probably why they don't fit modern fixtures.

What brand of printer is it? You can go to the brand site and they should have downloads for the new Windows version (7 or 8?) drivers. Worst case scenario, find a reputable online hack for forcing the printer version to be compatible with your new Windows.
If that doesn't work, well...my new printer+scanner was just $80 at OfficeMax, which means it's less at Best Buy but I didn't feel like driving cross county for a printer at the time.

Maryn
05-25-2014, 07:15 PM
It's an HP LaserJet, but when Mr. Maryn searched their website for drivers, he apparently got into some sort of infinite loop where it never finished searching.

I know just enough about programming to know that should never happen. It's easy to do when you're writing the code, but you should be testing all outcomes before going live. Silly HP!

I've been at writing and book sites too long. HP reads Harry Potter to me now. Maybe he will make a magic driver of some sort?

Maryn, hopeful

mario_c
05-25-2014, 11:00 PM
It takes a magician, doesn't it?

(I almost typed "IT takes a magician" - Freudian slip!)

sassandgroove
05-27-2014, 08:34 PM
Work some magic on our printers please. Our last one worked well once or twice then decided it didn't want to work anymore, or talk to our computer. We replaced it with one that scans and I thought I could archive old documents and stuff but it takes FOREVER To scan one sheet and the print outs aren't clean. bah.

Komnena
05-27-2014, 08:34 PM
IT can cause wrinkles in time, I believe.

Maryn
05-27-2014, 09:48 PM
After days of non-success, Mr. Maryn has started talking about a wireless printer. But damn it, this printer is just fine, and fast.

Maryn, pouting adorably

Komnena
05-28-2014, 06:59 AM
How are things going with the printer?
I bought too many books this weekend.

sassandgroove
05-28-2014, 04:47 PM
but it doesn't do any good if you can't get it to work.

good morning.

Busy busy at work. I'll be working straight through to next Thursday, then I'll have Thur and Fri off but I'll be too tired to enjoy it.

Maryn
05-28-2014, 05:21 PM
Still no go on the printer. We're out of things to try. Part of it is the instructions Microsoft pops up when we troubleshoot. They say it could be in the wrong port, using a USB rather than an LPT. My shiny new computer has only USB ports, as far as we can tell, but it says something like "USB port universal as LPT" at the information about the printer. Naturally the ports are not labeled, except for the HDMI port and one with a stylized capital D, which is not explained further.

I can see why people call the Geek Squad or similar. We figure we'll continue searching online before we go that route.

Sassy, straight through? Wow, that's a lot of consecutive days. I assume something special is going on?

We're going out of town on an overnight trip tomorrow, so if you don't see me, that's why. We're going to a concert about which I'm not enthusiastic, but I try to keep my mind open and can usually find something to enjoy about such things. We hope to hike in the area the next day, then drive home Friday afternoon, possibly into the evening.

Maryn, fellow traveler

sassandgroove
05-28-2014, 06:38 PM
yeah, we are hosting a conference. Saturday I at least get to sleep late. Plus I'll get free meals sat evening- wed bfast. Money wise I would rather have overtime, but they won't give me over time and I'll be exhausted anyway so comptime it is. I'm taking Thurs and Fri but I imagine I'll have at least another half day.

Have a fun and safe trip.

We had an impromptu trip to Rock City on sunday. Our friends came by and said, "Let's do something!" and so we did. We left at noon and got back at 8pm. it was fun though I got tired and sore and a bit fussy toward the end of the walk.

Russ Mars
05-28-2014, 10:15 PM
My two-cent's worth on printer woes: I've never had too much difficulty successfully setting up a printer, but I'm still kicking myself for my last printer purchase. It was a brand new 3-in-one Hewlett Packard...scan, copy and print...for $60. The trouble is, all the info I read before I purchased it, including HP's own documentation, suggests ink usage much more economical than the reality.

I only got about 20 b/w pages printed before I needed to change the cartridge—at $30 a pop! So, of course, it's the same price to change out the two cartridges (one color, one b/w) as it is to just buy another printer that comes with two cartridges.

What a racket! #%@* HP!

Hi, everyone! Thanks for letting me vent.

Maryn
05-29-2014, 03:59 PM
Wow, Russ, that's appalling. My HP LasetJet--the one I'm trying to get going on the new computer--is rated for 3000 B/W pages per cartridge. They cost $65, but that's a lot of pages. We're pretty sure we get more like 4000, maybe even 4500, before it goes, but when it runs out, it's always abrupt.

It's a great printer if black-and-white suits your needs. In all the years I've had it, I've had a grand total of three paper jams. My sole complaint is that I don't like the way it positions return addresses on envelopes. Oh, boo-hoo, huh?

Maryn, who wishes she could get it going

Russ Mars
05-29-2014, 08:31 PM
That's what I get for being cheap and going with an ink-jet printer. Even though a laser is more expensive to buy, it's definitely cheaper in the long run, especially for us writer types needing to print a lot of b/w manuscripts and the like.

I hope you get it figured out, then you can help me set up my laser printer...whenever I get one. I'll have to put a bug in Pandora's ear. Hey, Christmas is only 'bout seven months away.

mario_c
05-30-2014, 08:45 PM
I read (on Bloomberg, I believe) that the retail value of printer ink when measured in bulk, amounts to over $35,000 a gallon. Smell that glove, Middle East!

Maryn, the envelope printing trick still eludes me. Luckily I use the US mail pretty much once every other month these days.

juniper
06-01-2014, 09:39 AM
Hi there, I'm watching "New Tricks", a British show about a squad of older, out-to-pasture police detectives who look into unsolved/open/cold cases.

I'm needing some escape time with the tv because I've had a somewhat frustrating day. Didn't find a plant I wanted at the nursery this morning, the coffee cart at the farmers' market only served coffee not espresso drinks, then I spent 2 hours in my town's library at an iPad class, which was too basic for me. After that I zipped over to the library in the next town over (about 3 miles away) for an open session on using e-readers with library books.

I was glad to find out about that session, as I can' figure out how to download library books onto my Kobo. Yay! Someone to help me. Except - she didn't know either, she only knows Kindles, and it was just a wasted hour. I was the only one who showed up so it was a private session, but still pretty much worthless.

One of the problems seems to be that I don't know my Adobe ID, and I need that to interface between the library's Overdrive system and my Kobo.

Password frustrations ... too many usernames, too many passwords ... must find a way to simplify.

Then I came home to edit a PowerPoint presentation I'd made for my online MS Office class, worked on that for a bit (spend several hours on it yesterday), upload that, but then get an error message saying I have to upload 2 files for this assignment. But the instructions only say upload this one file. I can't turn in this assignment until I figure out what the other file is that I'm supposed to turn it.

I emailed the instructor but she's rather flaky and I don't know when I'll hear back. The assignment's not due until Thursday but I work every day until then and I have a lot of studying for another class. :gaah

So - I'm just chillin' for a bit. Started the laundry and will unload/load the dishwasher while I'm watching the tube.

Maryn
06-01-2014, 06:17 PM
I have solved my password frustration without duplicating them anywhere that matters. (Oh, no, I use the same one at Kohl's and Shutterfly! Wait, it's okay, neither one has any credit card info.) I created a list of sites or applications and their passwords. The ones which are sensitive--associated with banks, online purchases where credit card info may be stored, or other information valuable to identity thieves--I created a simple code to explain the password.

For example, if my password was Detr0it713 (which it isn't), the code might be Jeff's hometown with a zero (Jeff being a friend I haven't seen in a decade) plus Lori's area code.

Anyway, I have a list of all these sites/apps and passwords, some in a silly code, which I put in Evernote and synced. Now if I have my phone at hand, I can get any password I need--but if the note should land in bad guys' hands, it's not likely they can figure out any of the ones that really matter.

Maryn, big fan of Evernote

juniper
06-01-2014, 09:46 PM
Maryn, big fan of Evernote

I've had Evernote for over a year and haven't used it at all, I think. I haven't taken the time to set it up and learn how to make it work.

I know many people really like it. Maybe I'll figure it out.

Same thing with Scrivener.

Maryn
06-01-2014, 10:12 PM
I hope to goad you into trying Evernote for two weeks to see if you can come to appreciate it.

See if you can tell how to start a new note, and how to sync. If you never learn more than that, it's still really useful.

What I use Evernote for is its cross-platform ability. Man, that almost makes me sound tech-ish. I have a desktop, a laptop, and a smart phone. Oh, and an iPad. I type adequately on the computers and appallingly on the others--I hate texting because of it. (Plus it kicks my thumbs' arthritis into overdrive.)

On either computer, I'll type up small files of information I'd find useful on the go--a shopping list for the drugstore, which wines they only have at that one store, the pattern numbers I intend to buy at JoAnn, my husband's birthday list, the exact name of that lipstick only Sephora has, like that--and when complete, I copy it to Evernote. I name it something meaningful, often using a date for something which will expire, like what's on sale at the drugstore. So it might be CVS 6-1-14 or Butterick sale May 15-22 '14. (That way I know when it's no longer valid.)

Then I sync it, which simply means making it accessible to all my devices, and voila! Soon enough I'm running errands and realize I'm close to Sephora or the store with the wine, and I have my list!

The only drawback is that if there's no wifi at the store, it takes my phone a while to load the notes on its slower connection--but always less than a minute.

For me, using Evernote in this limited way has proven invaluable. It can do lots more, but I'd be glad to have it just for that.

Maryn, not a paid spokesperson

Russ Mars
06-02-2014, 08:46 PM
I must have a bit of a fetish for word processors, text editors, note-keeping and organizational programs. I think I have about 20 various programs (apps) of those types, one of which is Evernote. I think I've used it twice in the last couple of years.

My go-to note keeper is MS OneNote, and heaven help me if I ever lose data in it. It is loaded with year's worth of info, including all my account names and passwords, easily over 200.

And my go-to app for writing and organizing novels is Liquid Story Binder XE. Love it!

Now you've got me wondering if Evernote might be a better way to go. I'd better quit wondering about that right now or I'll never get through this mound of work I've got in front of me.

Maryn
06-02-2014, 10:54 PM
News from the front:

We have now confirmed that our printer will print one, and only one, print order from its queue upon being booted up. Print orders sent while it and the computer are both on just sit in the queue and do not print.

But we printed some tickets to a show we're going to in a few weeks just now, and all it took was a reboot.

I can see this being mighty slow going, but it's progress, right?

Maryn, who does not want to replace a working printer she likes

Komnena
06-03-2014, 04:29 PM
Glad to hear progress is being made with the printer.

Maryn
06-03-2014, 04:41 PM
Uh-oh. Rainy day, cannot work out outside. Is it really the day I bite the bullet and go bathing suit shopping? I need one, badly, but it's the worst.

Maryn, dreading it

Komnena
06-03-2014, 05:54 PM
I considered walking this morning but the humidity was 87 percent.

Maryn
06-04-2014, 12:26 AM
Sheesh, at that level you might have ended up going for a swim through the air itself.

I did the thing women dread: I bought a bathing suit this morning. I don't much like it, but it was marked down a lot and it fits. Good enough.

I had a suit I liked better, from Target, but its bra consisted of these pieces of, I don't know what to call it, rigid Styrofoam with more bubbles in the mix? You see it used as a packing material, usually in black and slightly bendy. Anyway, two of those slid into pockets and offered just-barely-adequate support, right until I was wading in fairly deep water and one of them floated up and away into the Atlantic.

Maryn, biter of bullets

Komnena
06-04-2014, 11:39 PM
I be tired. Around eight this morning the sink began spraying water everywhere. I slung towels and buckets everywhere. Hubby could not get valve to shut off. Luckily there was a city water crew in the area who were able to shut it off. Plumber came and fixed problem. I have most of the aftermath dealt with. I have used some of my sick incentive time, although frankly I would rather have gone into work than what I have spent my day doing.

Russ Mars
06-04-2014, 11:42 PM
Reading that gave me a sinking feeling, and it plumbed the depths of my soul.

Maryn
06-05-2014, 02:00 AM
Boo! Hiss!

Maryn, who enjoys a good pun

Komnena
06-05-2014, 06:44 AM
It appears Russ is keeping tubs on things/

Maryn
06-05-2014, 05:12 PM
Rub a dub dub
Putin in a tub?

Maryn, sipping coffee

Russ Mars
06-05-2014, 09:33 PM
Putin in a tub? Russian to get clean.

Komnena
06-06-2014, 03:37 AM
Nothing like a good czar.