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blacbird
03-04-2014, 10:17 AM
In the Great Scheme of this thread, compared to getting stuff accepted for publication and securing the services of an agent, this may not seem like much. But:

Today i did get through a major hurdle in a novel manuscript, stuck at about the 3/4 point (~72,000 words), on a plot point I just could not get worked out. This afternoon, thanks to minor inspiration from Terry Pratchett and Bill Cosby, and probably in neither case what you might think of as inspiration, I worked out a major scene that got me forward significantly. It amounts to about a complete chapter, and involved the killing off of a major character. I have known for a long while that this character would need to die, but had a great deal of trouble figuring out how to make it happen in a sensible manner. Today I think I got that, and I got it roughed out in entirety.

Fairly happy about it right now. I'll take another look at it tomorrow, and maybe detest it. But it has got me forward.

I have no illusions about publication anymore, but at least I got some positive vibes about the work. Maybe that's all that matters.

I don't post much in this thread, lacking the reasons most people here have for doing so. But, minor as it is, today made me happy.

caw

mccardey
03-04-2014, 10:21 AM
today made me happy.

caw

That made me happy. Congratulations.

katci13
03-04-2014, 10:29 AM
Getting unstuck on something is a HUGE deal. I know I've definitely been there so I know how good it feels to get out. Here's a WHOO HOO and a HIGH FIVE. ^_^
:fistpump

Brutal Mustang
03-04-2014, 12:01 PM
Congrats, and sometimes I think you're too hard on yourself.

Fruitbat
03-04-2014, 02:07 PM
:partyguy:

ap123
03-04-2014, 02:57 PM
Congratulations! Inspiration can come from so many places, our minds make all kinds of connections :)

Ken
03-04-2014, 03:02 PM
Overcoming hurdles of this sort are most definitely an accomplishment. Good going :-)

Old Hack
03-04-2014, 03:18 PM
That's great, blac. And I think this definitely counts as an achievement. Well done!

Phaeal
03-04-2014, 04:32 PM
The biggest achievements are those we wrestle to on our own. Ride the momentum!

GingerGunlock
03-04-2014, 04:46 PM
Awesome, I'm glad! Working out our own puzzles is definitely rewarding.

Wilde_at_heart
03-04-2014, 07:12 PM
In the Great Scheme of this thread, compared to getting stuff accepted for publication and securing the services of an agent, this may not seem like much. But:

Today i did get through a major hurdle in a novel manuscript, stuck at about the 3/4 point (~72,000 words), on a plot point I just could not get worked out. This afternoon, thanks to minor inspiration from Terry Pratchett and Bill Cosby, and probably in neither case what you might think of as inspiration, I worked out a major scene that got me forward significantly. It amounts to about a complete chapter, and involved the killing off of a major character. I have known for a long while that this character would need to die, but had a great deal of trouble figuring out how to make it happen in a sensible manner. Today I think I got that, and I got it roughed out in entirety.

Fairly happy about it right now. I'll take another look at it tomorrow, and maybe detest it. But it has got me forward.

I have no illusions about publication anymore, but at least I got some positive vibes about the work. Maybe that's all that matters.

I don't post much in this thread, lacking the reasons most people here have for doing so. But, minor as it is, today made me happy.

caw

Congratulations. Also, I agree with ↓ ↓ ↓


Congrats, and sometimes I think you're too hard on yourself.

Supergirlofnc
03-04-2014, 07:34 PM
It makes me happy to see your post. Getting unstuck is a wonderful accomplishment, and one to be celebrated!

Also, on an unrelated note, I always enjoy the 'caw' at the end of your posts, blacbird. That makes me smile every time (:

s.cummings
03-04-2014, 07:37 PM
Great job Blacbird. It is always an amazing feeling of having a breakthrough like that in your writing.

SWest
03-04-2014, 07:42 PM
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Kylabelle
03-04-2014, 07:57 PM
:TheWave:CAW:TheWave:


Getting unstuck is always worthy of celebration. Unless where you were stuck was a place you didn't want to be swept away from, like maybe clinging to a stob in a torrent, but, in this case, congratulations!

:D

Lady MacBeth
03-05-2014, 02:14 AM
Nothing feels better than getting THAT IDEA, the one that brings everything together. :)

Sage
03-05-2014, 02:40 AM
Totally celebratory!

Siri Kirpal
03-05-2014, 04:21 AM
Sat Nam! (Literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

Alleluiah for getting unstuck!

Blessings,

Siri Kirpal

L. Y.
03-05-2014, 05:55 AM
Great job, blacbird.

blacbird
03-05-2014, 12:11 PM
Nothing feels better than getting THAT IDEA, the one that brings everything together. :)

Thanks, but it didn't really bring everything together. It did clear up one major obstacle, and in doing so, revealed a couple of less major problems, one of which I think I took care of tonight. Others remain. I ain't one of yer really organized writers.

caw

Old Hack
03-05-2014, 05:09 PM
I'm not either, blac. I write all over the place, end up with a jumble of related scenes or chapters which then have to be put into some sort of order and then have to be edited into one coherent whole: it's a very wasteful way of working. But it's also a very creative one, and I love the unexpected goodies it often produces for me.

It's good that you're writing.

blacbird
05-05-2014, 12:06 PM
Update: Since last posted, I've added about 20,000 words, so now overall at about 92,000. Have also cleared up some other story issues, though some still remain. The thing involves complicated activity involving several characters, and getting all that worked out has been a real obstacle. But at least it's now moving. I figure the thing will top out around 120,000, and need trimmed down to around 100,000. But I've done that sort of thing before, and am pretty good at the trimming part.

I need to do some further research on wagon trains to the west coast around 1850 (provisioning, rate of travel, etc.), and the nature of commonly available firearms of the period.

caw

mccardey
05-05-2014, 12:29 PM
But at least it's now moving.

Well done!

Cosy_Mimi
05-05-2014, 03:26 PM
its a great feeling when that happens and worth the wait i'm sure! well done :)

Fuchsia Groan
05-05-2014, 07:43 PM
That's awesome! Getting near the end is always so exciting for me (and by "exciting" I mean stay-up-all-night-having-delusions-of-grandeur manic). I could be blocked at the beginning or middle, but never there.

Research is always a nice way to cool down, though.

hvxjim
05-05-2014, 09:55 PM
You're moving forward still--that's always a great sign!

blacbird
05-07-2014, 10:37 AM
You're moving forward still--that's always a great sign!

Well, I hope it is. Generally it feels like this little excerpt from the work itself, involving a group of people traveling across the Great Plains in a wagon train in the 1850s. One of them, known as "Mademoiselle" is fond of classic literature, and has named the two oxen pulling the wagon after mythological figures:

We had our Conestoga, provisions and a position in a train. And our oxen, which Mademoiselle named Scylla and Charybdis. These beasts resembled the fabled whirlpools of antiquity about as much as the King resembled a falcon, but they were strong, durable and super-naturally stupid. They were indomitable. When it rained, they went forward. When it was hot and dry, which it commonly was, they went forward. When ferocious lighting- and thunder-laden storms raked the land, they exhibited the fear a stone has of darkness, and went forward. They consumed what the land provided, which was grass, a vast abundance of it. When water was scarce, they went without. And they went forward.

With them, so did we. Though days went by when it didn’t seem we had gone anywhere, the same sun and the same sky and the same dry grass around us in all directions. The Great American Desert is a sea of grass, except for the occasional water-course where one might see a few stunted willows. No outcrops deface the uniformity, at least not where the trail led, not for days on end. Wagon wheels foundered in loose sand or muck a dozen times every day. The same mosquitoes and the same flies plagued us everywhere. Scylla and Charybdis went forward.

Dan Jack or me drove, mostly, which involved little more than avoiding sleep, mostly. The King and Mademoiselle suffered in the shade of the cabin, mostly, which did little to alleviate the stifling heat. But the hot and dry was to be preferred to the wet. The wet generated new populations of mosquitoes and flies, and the dry heat kept them off, some. Scylla and Charybdis went forward.


caw

blacbird
11-02-2014, 10:52 AM
Apologies for reviving this slightly zombiesque thread, but it's just to update:

I'm getting close to finishing the damthing, and am using the excuse of NANO, informally, to try to accomplish that. I still have one major plot obstacle to overcome, but only one, and the rough is at around 109.000 words now. It will need trimmed, obviously. I want to get the final draft down to 100K, and that will be doable, so it's not a problem.

The bigger problem is that the thing is an episodic, picaresque novel set in the mid-19th century American frontier. No dragons, elves, wizards. There's a plot, but it's not a standard hero v. villain kind of thing. I guess one of my role models is McMurtry's Lonesome Dove, but my thing (the story, I mean) isn't anywhere near that long, and I ain't the writer McMurtry is.

I just underwent an inquisition in the SYW Query Letter Hell subforum for something else, and I can't fathom how to query this current project. But I'm unconcerned about that, because I'm enjoying the writing, and have accepted the concept that it might never be submitted anywhere.

It's my form of writing accomplishment, best I can do.

caw

SWest
11-02-2014, 05:04 PM
Keep plugging away - glad you're loving the process!

Ken
11-02-2014, 05:12 PM
It can be queried. Will just take some doing, possibly torturous, but it can be done. G'luck.

Sage
11-02-2014, 05:40 PM
I love the idea of writing things just because they make you happy :)

Queries, if your novel is not high-concept (and even then), are hard. Even for us seasoned query-writers who have successful queries under our belts, the next book's query is still a challenge. Almost everyone when they come into QLH says at some point, "I don't know I could possibly query this thing." I hope you do end up getting this published, because getting a book you love published has got to be the best feeling. But even if you don't, you definitely have an accomplishment!

Lavern08
11-03-2014, 02:22 AM
I love the idea of writing things just because they make you happy :)

^ Ditto! ;)

wampuscat
11-03-2014, 11:48 PM
Congratulations! I hope you make your own Nano goal!

I agree with Sage. Queries are hard. They just are. Love your project, and I bet someone else will too. It's just a matter of finding the right frame.