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errantruth
02-13-2014, 04:38 PM
I know the public does, and I imagine UN employees use a different line to speed up their commutes to work.

But do they have to do the whole security body scanning thing too?
And do they have rules about weapons as well?

Thanks for any help :)

King Neptune
02-13-2014, 05:49 PM
I am only 90% certain, but they do not go through security beyond walking by a desk where someone sits to look at ID's.

Wilde_at_heart
02-13-2014, 07:30 PM
Back when I was at the BBC we had fobs to get us through turnstyles by the security desk.

One question - which might or might not help - are you referring to permanent employees or contractors? Not sure about the UN, but in government offices I've worked in (including for MPs), the temporary IDs issued, along with a sign-in sheet, are ones that in theory could be passed on to anyone else...

I don't have anything UN-specific though.

kenpochick
02-13-2014, 09:08 PM
I do a lot of work in court that has the same type of security measures, metal detectors, search the bags ect, and everyone has to go through, including the attorneys who work there all day. Even the cops have to go through, though they set off the alarm every time (obviously) and get waved through.

When I worked for the government we had key cards that let us into the building, and the rooms we were allowed to be in, but in those buildings there was no big security the public had to go through. They went through the public door which only opened into a lobby, they'd sign in and then someone would be called to escort them.

I would imagine with the UN there may be a difference between someone who works there 40 hours/week and others who work there on a more incremental basis, but I would bet that everyone goes through security regardless of whether you are an employee or not.

Good luck!

errantruth
02-13-2014, 11:49 PM
Thank you all for your insight.

Yes, I'm speaking of permanent employees, of relatively high (yet not highest) rank. And in the UN you'd really be looking at quite a few people of that level.

It's sounding like we all think they have some security protocol, but the extent of it is still not 100% clear.

Thank you all so much for taking the time to share your experiences. I may suck it up and head there and see if a security guard feels like letting me know (right before escorting me from the premises)...

Thanks again!

King Neptune
02-14-2014, 01:25 AM
Thank you all for your insight.

Yes, I'm speaking of permanent employees, of relatively high (yet not highest) rank. And in the UN you'd really be looking at quite a few people of that level.

It's sounding like we all think they have some security protocol, but the extent of it is still not 100% clear.

Thank you all so much for taking the time to share your experiences. I may suck it up and head there and see if a security guard feels like letting me know (right before escorting me from the premises)...

Thanks again!

Since you claim to be in that town, you might just go up therre and ask. They won't give much detail, but they probably will give generalities.

errantruth
02-14-2014, 01:29 AM
Since you claim to be in that town, you might just go up therre and ask. They won't give much detail, but they probably will give generalities.

I do indeed claim it!

Beachgirl
02-14-2014, 08:08 AM
I can't speak to the UN, but I worked for the US Department of Defense for a while and everyone had to go through security. Badges, metal detectors, gates, etc. No exceptions. And if you forgot your microchip-embedded ID badge? *shudders*

Diana_Rajchel
02-14-2014, 10:39 AM
It makes sense that there would be something. Then again, it isn't any country's official agency so maybe they're more selective?

shaldna
02-14-2014, 03:28 PM
When I worked in government here we all had to go through security when going to certain buildings - our bags and files and all our keys, phones etc were xrayed and searched had to walk though metal detectors. We also had to have our own security passes on us and these were exchanged in security for a new pass which we could only use in the building and we had to sign for it and sign it back in again when we were leaving and collecting our own pass back again.

Don't know how much help that is

errantruth
02-14-2014, 03:33 PM
This makes sense. I'm thinking UN folks may have a separate entrance and separate security so they don't run late coz of tourists, but they still have serious security to go through. (I'd hate to go through this every day!)

MUCH APPRECIATED!!!! :) Thank you!

Given the weather, I'm not going to head in today, but I'll work within this framework before finding a time to investigate. Thank you!!

shaldna
02-14-2014, 04:31 PM
I wasn't UN, but we didn't have a separate entrance. We used the same one the public used, although when we surrendered our usual security passes and were given building specific ones, we were able to access areas that the public weren't able to.

Some buildings aren't open to the public here though.

errantruth
02-14-2014, 07:08 PM
Hi Shaldna,

Did you have a separate line, though, or get to skip to the front? I imagine the UN has more visitors which is why I was thinking surely employees would enter separately. I know with the courts here in NYC, prospective jurors and the public wait in long lines, but those who work in the courthouses pass through a separate (nearby) entrance...

Thanks again for your help!

I remember once having access to State Department for a press briefing, and we had cards with specific colors that told anyone looking at us which floors/areas we had access to--and the ladies room I found was in a different color block. Never felt so terrified and rebellious taking a pee before. :)

Thanks again--
Ruth

shaldna
02-14-2014, 07:52 PM
Hi Shaldna,

Did you have a separate line, though, or get to skip to the front? I imagine the UN has more visitors which is why I was thinking surely employees would enter separately. I know with the courts here in NYC, prospective jurors and the public wait in long lines, but those who work in the courthouses pass through a separate (nearby) entrance...


No. For security reasons we had one way in and out. Everyone used that door. Although to note - in most cases the buildings are only open to the public during certain hours - usually so they don't correspond with the morning / evening start and finish times or shift changes. But again, I'm not sure what UN buildings etc are like, I'm only talking from my own experience.

Our courts are also much smaller - some of the NI courtrooms are just halls or hired rooms. There's one that's just a room over a butchers shop. Here a courtroom can be wherever needs to be a courtroom at the time.

I know that the court in our town everyone goes in through the same door, it's a pretty big court that serves most of the county.

errantruth
02-15-2014, 02:16 AM
Thanks again--I really appreciate it. I'm going to check out the UN visiting hours too; I wonder if they also have that space between public hours and normal working hours. Plus I'll probably scout it out once the weather gets less brutal.

Thanks so much!!
~ R

frimble3
02-16-2014, 09:47 AM
Don't know what your story needs, but if you're going to go up and ask questions, you might ask what they do with suppliers: food, office and cleaning supplies, etc. Somewhere there is a service/truck entrance. My employers go through paper (writing and toilet) by the pallet-loads, I can only imagine how much the U.N. would need.
I don't imagine U.N. security is casual about big boxes being hauled into the building.

jaksen
02-16-2014, 05:47 PM
Has nothing to do with your question, but I've had jury duty a few times. Every time, as I go through the scanner and have my pocketbook searched, the lawyers and other personnel at the courthouse walk right past me. Through a doorway with no scanner. Waving at the security guards. Sharing a casual chit-chat, sometimes, like, 'how's the kids?'

I suppose we must trust lawyers and those who work at the courthouse but they're often carrying briefcases, laptop cases, etc.

Makes me wonder ...

errantruth
02-17-2014, 03:13 PM
Jaksen-- I've seen that too!

Frimble3-- Love your comparison in terms of toilet paper, etc. For this particular story, I don't need to sneak any object or person in, I have a character who works there and the potential I might set some scenes going in and/or heading out, interactions, etc, and want to know the real landscape she'd encounter (and which her colleagues would). That said, I really like your thought process on this for other works I've got on the burner...

Thanks again, everyone!!
Ruth

Bing Z
02-17-2014, 09:39 PM
@errantruth, will you report your finding? I have no idea but am interested to know as well.