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aliwood
12-07-2013, 12:42 AM
I know there are artists amongst us because I am one and I know of some others. So I figured I'd start this thread so folks could stick up pics their latest creation or links to stuff they found interesting or ask for help with projects they are putting together.

It's the art thread, lets make a big mess!!!!! :D

aliwood
12-07-2013, 12:47 AM
I'd better start then huh?

A Rock Landscape (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/rock-landscape/) - I did this charcoal from a picture.

Alessandra Kelley
12-07-2013, 01:06 AM
Nice. I love the texture effects you can get from charcoal.

http://www.alessandrakelley.com/sketchbook.html

Are people looking for feedback?

milkweed
12-07-2013, 01:30 AM
https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/936063_10152019442619020_564339594_n.jpg

Let's see if I can get my selfie to come up

aliwood
12-07-2013, 01:31 AM
Feedback would be welcome - I ask that people keep it in the spirit of AW though - of course.

I'd love some feedback, I'm really looking to improve and suggestions would be welcome.

What are you using there Alessandra, is that ordinary graphite pencil? Your peacock butterfly looks magnificent whatever it is.

Got to ask, are you finding the sketching helpful as a way to understand your writing? I mean to help you develop the ideas more in your own head and understand how something works

Yes - let's start with an esoteric question, good plan! Sorry, it's a bit philosophical that one.

Little Anonymous Me
12-07-2013, 02:00 AM
Ali, I really like that one you did of Marcus Brutus. And Alessandra, the one you titled 'Order of the World' is so cool! Love the detailing on her dress.


As promised, here you go. (https://24.media.tumblr.com/0d3f827c97e5607e630921cd984487ff/tumblr_mxenn6pmn21sczmxjo1_500.jpg) (My sketchbook with actual decent things is 200 miles and a week away. Better(ish) stuff will eventually appear.)

aliwood
12-07-2013, 02:09 AM
Cool LAM! Love the bunny ears :D

I don't have the confidence to draw with a pen - you can't rub it out. :scared:

Little Anonymous Me
12-07-2013, 02:22 AM
Hur hur, thanks. I rather like my tail. :D


Normally I use pencil, but the Sharpie was winking at me tonight. ;)

milkweed
12-07-2013, 02:29 AM
As promised, here you go. (https://24.media.tumblr.com/0d3f827c97e5607e630921cd984487ff/tumblr_mxenn6pmn21sczmxjo1_500.jpg) (My sketchbook with actual decent things is 200 miles and a week away. Better(ish) stuff will eventually appear.)


Like! :D

Friendly Frog
12-07-2013, 08:05 PM
A Rock Landscape (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/rock-landscape/) - I did this charcoal from a picture.
Nice! I'm not good with charcoal, I always make such a mess.

Alessandra, I like the mermaid sketch.

Here's one of mine (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/isirith/tekeningen/LaDameChouetteEffraie.jpg). I like it, apart from the floor and hands, two of my very weak points. And the lovely thing about long dresses is that you don't have to worry about feet either. :D
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y268/isirith/tekeningen/LaDameChouetteEffraie.jpg)

aliwood
12-07-2013, 09:04 PM
Frog that's nice. As you say your perspective has gone a bit awry there. I am learning about perspective at the moment, if I spot anything I'll shout.

Question: does anyone here use loose sheets of paper? I have several sketch books, but increasingly find myself ripping the pages out to put on my board instead. I much prefer this way of working, but I think it'll mean I end up with a lot of stuff just wafting about.

Alessandra Kelley
12-07-2013, 09:13 PM
Feedback would be welcome - I ask that people keep it in the spirit of AW though - of course.

I'd love some feedback, I'm really looking to improve and suggestions would be welcome.

What are you using there Alessandra, is that ordinary graphite pencil? Your peacock butterfly looks magnificent whatever it is.

Got to ask, are you finding the sketching helpful as a way to understand your writing? I mean to help you develop the ideas more in your own head and understand how something works

Yes - let's start with an esoteric question, good plan! Sorry, it's a bit philosophical that one.

Thank you. Yes, that's ordinary graphite pencil. I have some specialty 0.3mm mechanical pencils for the fine details, but it's ordinary pencil lead.

Melanii
12-07-2013, 09:48 PM
I draw a lot, though I'm not always happy with what I draw. :P

I'm proud of this one, though. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/59608a61663674d73a292e9f34ea55a9/tumblr_mxce4k7Us01sqr6l7o1_400.jpg)

SkylarJade
12-08-2013, 01:18 AM
Miss Stawberrii, That picture is so cute! I love how playful and happy the girl looks. Also, their outfits are great.

Frog, I love the colors you used in your picture. And her dress. Her dress is pretty. Also, this may sound odd, but those are some great bookshelves behind her.

You people posting in this thread are all so talented! ^_^

Aliwood, I usually use loose sheets of paper. I have a proper sketchbook, but I never seem to have it with me. Instead most my art is scrawled onto random notebook pages or pieces of printer paper. I'll admit, the paper ends up everywhere, and I'll find drawing I forgot I made in random places quite often.

I only draw a little. I have a friend who's been encouraging me to practice my art more and even try selling at some small conventions, but really, I have always just wanted to reach a point where I could accurately draw the characters from my story. I've been super proud of my latest piece. I've never managed one with a perspective like this or with so many of my characters in it, even if it does still have it's flaws: You all meet in an inn (http://ladyskylar.deviantart.com/art/You-all-meet-in-an-inn-416523466)

Friendly Frog
12-08-2013, 03:48 PM
Frog that's nice. As you say your perspective has gone a bit awry there. I am learning about perspective at the moment, if I spot anything I'll shout.
The silly thing is I did learn a bit about perspective in saterday art school and I did try to apply it all here. But some of it is off, and frankly I can't really see just what I did wrong. Needs more practise I guess. Backgrounds is still a new thing for me.


Question: does anyone here use loose sheets of paper? I have several sketch books, but increasingly find myself ripping the pages out to put on my board instead. I much prefer this way of working, but I think it'll mean I end up with a lot of stuff just wafting about.I use loose sheets as I often use watercolour and need to stretch the paper so it doesn't wrinkle too much. I also like to collect my better work so loose sheets work better so I can remove the failures. :D

aliwood
12-09-2013, 11:35 PM
I'm proud of this one, though. (http://24.media.tumblr.com/59608a61663674d73a292e9f34ea55a9/tumblr_mxce4k7Us01sqr6l7o1_400.jpg)

So you should be, that's lovely. I've tried to draw those kinds of figures in the past. I just can't get them though.


I've never managed one with a perspective like this or with so many of my characters in it, even if it does still have it's flaws: You all meet in an inn (http://ladyskylar.deviantart.com/art/You-all-meet-in-an-inn-416523466)

That's wonderful Skylar. Well done.


I use loose sheets as I often use watercolour and need to stretch the paper so it doesn't wrinkle too much. I also like to collect my better work so loose sheets work better so I can remove the failures. :D

It occurs to me that as I'm going in for more charcoal at the moment, this is probably the approach to take as otherwise I'll end up getting it everywhere.

ION, I almost bought some woodless charcoal pencils today. I was really tempted. I did however, buy some black paper. And I ended up doing this - Moonlight Landscape (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/09/moonlight-landscape/), which is a darker on screen than it is in real life. I was twiddling around really so it leaves a lot to be desired but I had fun drawing it, which was the whole point really.

Melanii
12-10-2013, 07:38 AM
By loose sheets do you mean computer/printer paper?

I have sketch books, but I don't use them that well, so I just use the loose stuff. :P

Filigree
12-10-2013, 08:48 AM
I'll make art with anything I can get my grabby hands on, but lately I've been doing a lot of digital art.

Here is a cover for a self-published novelette I'll be tossing out into the world in a few weeks. The central figure was sketched from a stock photo another cover artist kindly bought for me. It's done with a combo of Painter digital airbrush and chalk.

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m566/FiligreeSilver/Crane_Singerhirescoverforblog_zpsa378f3d5.jpg (http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/FiligreeSilver/media/Crane_Singerhirescoverforblog_zpsa378f3d5.jpg.html )

I'm frankly terrified at this stage, but I'm seeing so many really bad self-pub photo collage covers out there I had to try for something a little better.

aliwood
12-10-2013, 01:03 PM
By loose sheets do you mean computer/printer paper?

I have sketch books, but I don't use them that well, so I just use the loose stuff. :P

Not necessarily computer paper. I have got my hands on loose watercolour paper, some colouring paper meant for kids to scrawl on. I basically meant anything not bound in a book type thing.

I too have sketch books, but I'm really not comfortable using them. I prefer to pull the sheets out and use them one by one. I'm becoming worried I'll just end up with 'stuff' everywhere and not be able to keep them under control. I guess that's what my blog is for, digital versions can't run away so much.


Here is a cover for a self-published novelette I'll be tossing out into the world in a few weeks.

Oh, I say. *Wild applause* That's terrific. Love the shadow.


I'm frankly terrified at this stage, but I'm seeing so many really bad self-pub photo collage covers out there I had to try for something a little better.

Agrees with you whole-heartedly.

SkylarJade
12-10-2013, 04:10 PM
Filigree, good luck! That cover looks nice. ^_^

Filigree
12-10-2013, 04:28 PM
Thanks, folks.

Shadowflame
12-10-2013, 08:54 PM
Great pieces everyone! Love the work

Oh and a great inexpensive paper source is the ends of newsprint. This is what is left of the roll that newspapers print out. There are yards and yards of nice paper left on these. I simply cut out what I need.

Friendly Frog
12-10-2013, 11:43 PM
By loose sheets do you mean computer/printer paper?
I prefer pads with sligthly thicker paper where I can tear off each page and afterwards store them in a folder. The thicker pages are better for watercolour. Also, computer paper tends to get dirty or crumpled faster with heavy eraser use and I use erasers a lot when drawing. And for pencil work, a more grainy paper gives a nicer effect.

I have a few sketch books, but I'm not a fan of drawing in books since for some reason the book always seems to get in the way of my hand.


I'll make art with anything I can get my grabby hands on, but lately I've been doing a lot of digital art.
I've been wondering whether digital art would be something for me. But frankly I wouldn't know where to start. It doesn't appear to be so easy to engage in as pencil and paper.


Here is a cover for a self-published novelette I'll be tossing out into the world in a few weeks. The central figure was sketched from a stock photo another cover artist kindly bought for me. It's done with a combo of Painter digital airbrush and chalk.Pretty! I like the blue and red, makes the cover pop nicely.

Filigree
12-11-2013, 05:59 AM
There is a cost and data storage threshold to cross, for digital. OTOH, if you are aiming for any kind of larger commercial outlets like cover art and poster publishing, digital is the best way to go.

aliwood
12-11-2013, 12:09 PM
The silly thing is I did learn a bit about perspective in saterday art school and I did try to apply it all here. But some of it is off, and frankly I can't really see just what I did wrong. Needs more practise I guess. Backgrounds is still a new thing for me.

I have it! There's a little tutorial here (http://juliannakunstler.com/art1_1pt_ch_board.html#.UqgcnVXaJpg) about how to draw a chessboard. It's exactly the method you need for tiled floors. :D

Today is my 'art day'. I am going to draw all the things.

Friendly Frog
12-11-2013, 04:08 PM
I have it! There's a little tutorial here (http://juliannakunstler.com/art1_1pt_ch_board.html#.UqgcnVXaJpg) about how to draw a chessboard. It's exactly the method you need for tiled floors. :D
Thanks! Funny how simple it looks. But it'll be useful. I suspect I messed up my horizon point somewhere and went wrong from there. The next time I try tile floors, they'll look better.

May your art day be good. :)

Polenth
12-12-2013, 12:53 AM
I have a few bits of my A-level coursework up on this page: http://www.polenthblake.com/art/fineartas.html

I'll probably be photographing the first sketchbook over Christmas, as I want a record before it gets handed in.

aliwood
12-13-2013, 11:55 PM
I have been so busy trying to finish things that I haven't been posting.

Good luck with your coursework Polenth. I flunked out of an art O'level many years ago.

I went and sketched a few things on Wednesday, but to be honest, standing in a park sketching when it's 3C is not very clever and I gave up after just a few trees. I did go buy a few art type things though, including the woodless charcoal pencils I mentioned earlier in the week. Oooo, they are just lovely. I've been having a great time with them, adding depth to some stuff I already had going.

Since last time I've added a few things to my blog including a cartoon dwarf (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/dwarf/), a [http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/aysgarth-waterfall/"]waterfall[/URL] and my favourite so far, a skateboarder (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/skate-or-die/) flying through the air (with the greatest of ease). I love the motion of the figure in that one. I think I may do more.

Tepelus
12-14-2013, 05:29 AM
I don't draw much anymore, but once in a while I get in the mood. When I was young I used to draw all the time. It was all that I wanted to do. Then I became an adult and the desire drifted away.

This drawing is one I'm most proud of. (http://tepelus.deviantart.com/art/Oscar-Wilde-341853614) I drew it a little over a year ago. I've done a couple other drawings since, they're posted on my DA page, but they're not as good as Oscar.

Friendly Frog
12-14-2013, 04:54 PM
Aliwood, your waterfall link goes to the skateboarder as well. Did you do the skateboarder from life or from photo? The motion is indeed very nice.


This drawing is one I'm most proud of. (http://tepelus.deviantart.com/art/Oscar-Wilde-341853614) I drew it a little over a year ago. I've done a couple other drawings since, they're posted on my DA page, but they're not as good as Oscar.
Dang, that's nice! You can't even see the pencil lines. I readily believe it took 8 days.

aliwood
12-14-2013, 05:38 PM
This drawing is one I'm most proud of. (http://tepelus.deviantart.com/art/Oscar-Wilde-341853614) I drew it a little over a year ago. I've done a couple other drawings since, they're posted on my DA page, but they're not as good as Oscar.

Oh, that's good. Well done.


Aliwood, your waterfall link goes to the skateboarder as well. Did you do the skateboarder from life or from photo? The motion is indeed very nice.

Ooops. Here we go, the waterfall is here (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/13/aysgarth-waterfall/). The skateboarder is from a wallpaper photo I found on the internetz. There is a skate park down the road from me so I may go take some pics and watch some action when summer comes around again. (Can't come too soon!)

Little Anonymous Me
12-19-2013, 11:47 PM
Better stuff from me this time around. (http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag472/Little_Anonymous_Me/drawing_zps66cb0ddf.jpg) These are a few years old, and it was just me practicing the individual bits, but I was pleased with the eyes. :)

No so much with the mouth, however....

Filigree
12-20-2013, 05:47 AM
Here's a thought. Would anyone be interested in a before and after digital art segment? Several times on different AW threads, I've seen typically rendered CG figures used in cover art. We know the type: too-smooth skin and clothing, dead eyes, stiff hair, odd shadows, etc. (Often, the hallmark of self-pub covers, alas.) I've started there a few times, but I usually spend some effort in Painter or GIMP or Alien Skin Snap Art, adding texture and life to the render.

I could work something up in the next month or so, with some of my inspirational sources on DeviantArt.

SkylarJade
12-20-2013, 06:45 AM
Little Anonymous, I like the details in the eyes and ear. Looks nice. ^_^

Filigree, a before and after type thing would be pretty cool!

Filigree
12-20-2013, 09:16 AM
It might be too image-heavy for AW, so I would probably make it a blog post and link to it. Be a few weeks away, though. I would love to see how other digital artists refine their work.

Little Anonymous Me
12-20-2013, 07:52 PM
Little Anonymous, I like the details in the eyes and ear. Looks nice. ^_^


Thanks! :) I'm not very good at drawing, so it takes me a slow eternity to get a halfway decent result.


And I third the before/after. Sounds nifty! (<---my word of the day)

DGamelan
12-21-2013, 02:46 PM
Filigree that would be wonderful! It is always fascinating and very educational to understand others' processes.

Everyone, I am very proud of you! Not only are your works pleasing, but I am also glad that you have the drive to create and the generosity to share. I appreciate your hard work. :D

I have works to contribute as well. I have only a few of my more recent sketches up, as relating to the story I am writing at this time. I will be going in to add some of my work from years past as well as anything that I will create in the future. (for example, I will be rediscovering using a brush and india ink soon!)

Please enjoy! http://daileegamelan.blogspot.com/p/artwork.html

(I would also like to extend the offer of listing various artists I like if you share the same drive for inspiration as I do, just let me know!)

aliwood
12-22-2013, 02:10 PM
Sorry, I seem to have wandered off there. Let me catch up a little


but I was pleased with the eyes. :)

Yes, nice eyes.


Here's a thought. Would anyone be interested in a before and after digital art segment?

Yes please. GIMP is something I would love to get my head around, so this would be something to get me going inspiration-wise.


It might be too image-heavy for AW, so I would probably make it a blog post and link to it.

Good plan, let us know how you go.


Everyone, I am very proud of you! Not only are your works pleasing, but I am also glad that you have the drive to create and the generosity to share. I appreciate your hard work. :D

...

(I would also like to extend the offer of listing various artists I like if you share the same drive for inspiration as I do, just let me know!)

X2

...

Actually, this is one of the things I wanted to do with this thread. The 'I like this picture' and the 'hey, look what I found', and the 'this really inspired me to...'

So on that theme I offer you - The Sistine Chapel (http://www.vatican.va/various/cappelle/sistina_vr/index.html) online

And as it's the season, my Christmas bird (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/14/maltese-falcon/) :D i did it as charcoal on canvas and then read somewhere that that was supposed to be impossible. Oh well.

Happy drawing everyone :D

Friendly Frog
12-22-2013, 06:54 PM
Yes please. GIMP is something I would love to get my head around, so this would be something to get me going inspiration-wise.
Likewise! GIMP looks like such a useful thing, but I'm barely scratching the surface.

aliwood
12-28-2013, 11:12 PM
I started this on Christmas Day, because really what better thing to do is there on Christmas Day than draw Jack Skellington (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2013/12/28/jack-skellington/)?

SkylarJade
12-28-2013, 11:26 PM
DGamelan, those are so cute! I love the style you use.

Aliwood, nice Jack Skellington! That looks pretty fantastic. He looks so devious and frightening in that picture. ^_^

I did some fan art yesterday. I have a cartoony style I've been working on improving, and I want to try and draw a lot of characters I like in it. Yesterday I made Rapunzel and a Weeping Angel: http://ladyskylar.deviantart.com/art/Rapunzel-422690892 http://ladyskylar.deviantart.com/art/Weeping-Angel-422690363

aliwood
12-29-2013, 08:00 PM
Aliwood, nice Jack Skellington! That looks pretty fantastic. He looks so devious and frightening in that picture. ^_^

Doesn't he just. He looked scary enough in the movie.

Nice piece you have there - I love the shoes! :D

...

I'm back because I have a question folks.

What do folks draw construction lines with?

I've tried a 6H graphite and 2H graphite pencil, both of with seem to leave grooves in my paper, no matter how light I press. I've also tried charcoal pencil, which is hard to erase, and vine charcoal which isn't very precise.

Help!

Tepelus
12-29-2013, 10:28 PM
What do you mean by construction lines? Do you mean the outline of a drawing, the bones from which you start? I like to start with HB and draw lightly on the paper. Just enough to see the lines and easily erase my mistakes. If you use a darker, softer graphite you will have problems with erasing, a lighter but harder graphite will leave scratches. Draw with a light hand at first until everything is as you want it, then you can go heavier. I sometimes even use a cheap sheet of drawing paper to make my initial outlines, then when they are the way I like them, darken them and then transfer them onto a better quality paper by using a light box. I think you can use carbon paper too to trace over your lines onto the better quality paper and continue your work from there. But if you don't want to be bothered with transferring your image, do what I said before and use a light hand and go heavier as you go.

Tepelus
12-29-2013, 10:32 PM
Also, some papers are naturally soft and will leave grooves. Cheap drawing paper I don't usually have that problem with unless I press hard, but the Stonehenge paper I use for my finished work is soft and will leave lines if I'm not careful. Hence, when I decide to draw something I would like to have on the nicer paper, I do my outlines on the cheap paper and then transfer the image onto the Stonehenge paper.

Friendly Frog
12-29-2013, 10:49 PM
What do folks draw construction lines with?

I've tried a 6H graphite and 2H graphite pencil, both of with seem to leave grooves in my paper, no matter how light I press. I've also tried charcoal pencil, which is hard to erase, and vine charcoal which isn't very precise.
I prefer HB for most of my construction or draft lines. I rarely use the H series because I often do end up pressing them too deeply in the paper. So I only use them on the rare occasions I do full pencil drawings.

aliwood
12-30-2013, 09:43 PM
What do you mean by construction lines? Do you mean the outline of a drawing, the bones from which you start?

That's it exactly.


Hence, when I decide to draw something I would like to have on the nicer paper, I do my outlines on the cheap paper and then transfer the image onto the Stonehenge paper.

I'm trying this right now. I think this is probably a much better idea than my normal approach as then I can make alteration on the draft drawing.

Thanks for the help.


I prefer HB for most of my construction or draft lines. I rarely use the H series because I often do end up pressing them too deeply in the paper. So I only use them on the rare occasions I do full pencil drawings.

Thank you for this. I'm trying something out with a B pencil, using the side of the point rather than the point directly. It seems to be a working a lot better than my normal 'leave a groove in the paper' method.

Friendly Frog
12-30-2013, 11:01 PM
It can also help to have your pencil dull rather than sharpened for construction or draft lines. It's something I only lately have been trying to pay attention to. I've noticed that I tend to have more unnecessary grooves in the paper with sharpened pencils so I try to keep a few dull ones around to start with.

Tepelus
12-30-2013, 11:06 PM
Glad I was some help. Art is a trial and error process, I think. Using dull pencils is a good idea.

Polenth
12-30-2013, 11:46 PM
I found my sketching pressure control improved after using fountain pens. If I pressed too hard with those pens, it'd bend or break the nibs, which makes it more obvious when it's happening. I hadn't realised how hard I pressed sometimes until then.

aliwood
12-30-2013, 11:55 PM
It can also help to have your pencil dull rather than sharpened for construction or draft lines. It's something I only lately have been trying to pay attention to. I've noticed that I tend to have more unnecessary grooves in the paper with sharpened pencils so I try to keep a few dull ones around to start with.

Doh! That is soooooo obvious now that you've said it. :Headbang:

Friendly Frog
12-31-2013, 03:04 PM
Exactly my reaction at the time. You'd think we'd realise things like that sooner, eh? :ROFL:

aliwood
01-19-2014, 08:01 PM
So, you're all thinking that I'd gone to sleep or something.

Nope.

I have been off earning cash. that's right, money, lucre, so I haven't been posting as I've been working on that.

Now it's finished I'm back to doing less serious things: Scotch Tape Parrot (http://truckloadofart.wordpress.com/2014/01/19/scotch-tape-parrot/).

I also cleared my wall of drawings and just left up the best ones as a sort of gallery. I had 8 really good drawings, so I was uite pleased with that. Also, it saves me decorating! Win!! :D