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Mark Moore
10-15-2013, 05:50 AM
I've got a scene in a current WIP where one of my MCs is taken to a salon by two other girls, because her perm got ruined in the rain. She is gonna get a new perm, another girl is gonna be daring and get her long hair cut short, and the third girl...I dunno (I've got her getting a perm as well, but I'd welcome suggestions for something else).

It's been years since I've been in a salon (my mom cuts my hair now), and even then it was Fantastic Sams.

What would the step-by-step process be for getting a perm, getting a short haircut, etc.? I recall the first thing that they did at Sams was wash my hair.

Are there different types of perms? Some terminology for those as well as different types of short haircuts would be helpful.

cornflake
10-15-2013, 05:58 AM
I've got a scene in a current WIP where one of my MCs is taken to a salon by two other girls, because her perm got ruined in the rain. She is gonna get a new perm, another girl is gonna be daring and get her long hair cut short, and the third girl...I dunno (I've got her getting a perm as well, but I'd welcome suggestions for something else).

It's been years since I've been in a salon (my mom cuts my hair now), and even then it was Fantastic Sams.

What would the step-by-step process be for getting a perm, getting a short haircut, etc.? I recall the first thing that they did at Sams was wash my hair.

Are there different types of perms? Some terminology for those as well as different types of short haircuts would be helpful.

Her perm got ruined in the rain? Are your characters black?

Little Anonymous Me
10-15-2013, 06:28 AM
Her perm got ruined in the rain? Are your characters black?


White girl perms get ruined in the rain too. First thing they tell you is no water on your hair for at least 24 hours.


For getting a perm: First, you'd talk about whether you're getting a body perm or a spiral perm, or something really tight. This will depend on your character's ethnicity and hair type. The perm solution smells terrible. And it lingers in your hair for days, since washing it is right out for a bit. Getting those rollers in your hair hurts if the stylist is just yanking them in there, and if your character has very straight hair like I do, it's a battle to keep them from sliding out. Then they stick you under the drier for an ungodly amount of time, which is very boring. Then you have the joy of getting the curlers yanked out. Because a perm dries your hair out like nothing else, you get a lot of leave in moisturizers and product worked through (which she will have to buy).


Short cuts: I'd need a little more on what you mean by short, as some guys call anything that only skims the shoulders short. But generically, there are bobs (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiO4apRmWbL9cmnKZwpxPrbz4ilVOLP QpoaSJzUIfQM1VizQBrLQ), and there are pixies (http://imagesci.com/img/2013/12/anne-hathaway-hair-2424-hd-wallpapers.jpg). The stylist will have a long hard talk with her about the pixie. They tend to get a lot of tears after, and every time I've gone that short, it goes 'Are you sure? Are you really sure? You want a pixie? Really? Can't glue it back on!'

melindamusil
10-15-2013, 07:01 AM
I also haven't been to a stylist in a few years, but I have gotten several short haircuts over the years. More than once I've cut off a ponytail and donated the hair to locks of love or a similar nonprofit. Anyway, just about all my haircuts would begin with a shampoo, followed by lots and lots of cutting. I don't remember anything especially fancy, just sitting there for a long(ish) time while the stylist cut and cut and cut.

Once, I happened to have a hair appointment right after going to the gym and showering. My hair was wet when I arrived at the appointment, and the stylist just jumped right in - apparently the purpose of the shampooing is to get your hair wet and clean, but if it's already wet and clean, there's no reason for it. She gave me a discount too. :)

cornflake
10-15-2013, 11:10 AM
White girl perms get ruined in the rain too. First thing they tell you is no water on your hair for at least 24 hours.

For getting a perm: First, you'd talk about whether you're getting a body perm or a spiral perm, or something really tight. This will depend on your character's ethnicity and hair type. The perm solution smells terrible. And it lingers in your hair for days, since washing it is right out for a bit. Getting those rollers in your hair hurts if the stylist is just yanking them in there, and if your character has very straight hair like I do, it's a battle to keep them from sliding out. Then they stick you under the drier for an ungodly amount of time, which is very boring. Then you have the joy of getting the curlers yanked out. Because a perm dries your hair out like nothing else, you get a lot of leave in moisturizers and product worked through (which she will have to buy).


Short cuts: I'd need a little more on what you mean by short, as some guys call anything that only skims the shoulders short. But generically, there are bobs (http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQiO4apRmWbL9cmnKZwpxPrbz4ilVOLP QpoaSJzUIfQM1VizQBrLQ), and there are pixies (http://imagesci.com/img/2013/12/anne-hathaway-hair-2424-hd-wallpapers.jpg). The stylist will have a long hard talk with her about the pixie. They tend to get a lot of tears after, and every time I've gone that short, it goes 'Are you sure? Are you really sure? You want a pixie? Really? Can't glue it back on!'

I know you can't get your hair wet for 24 hours after getting a (white-girl, heh) perm (thank you, Legally Blonde), but the OP didn't say they'd just been to a salon or done a home perm and I dunno if you can redo that kind of perm immediately, hence I wondered, as it just sounded more logical like it'd be the other.

sheadakota
10-15-2013, 02:35 PM
I'm not sure if you can get two perms that close together. I may be way off here but as the mom of a girl, not many young woman get perms these days. As I said, could just be my experience.
As for the third girl she could get a mani or a pedi while she is there, or a massage. Most salons in my area a offer spa services

Little Anonymous Me
10-15-2013, 04:51 PM
I know you can't get your hair wet for 24 hours after getting a (white-girl, heh) perm (thank you, Legally Blonde), but the OP didn't say they'd just been to a salon or done a home perm and I dunno if you can redo that kind of perm immediately, hence I wondered, as it just sounded more logical like it'd be the other.


Lol, I automatically assumed it was fresh because getting it wet after it's set seldom damages the curls (though I hear chlorine/salt water can relax it quite a bit).


And yeah, I completely derped last night. Getting two perms that close together would be hell on your hair. (I'm going to blame missing that on sleepiness. Definitely sleepiness. :tongue)

Orianna2000
10-15-2013, 05:27 PM
If you have long hair, getting it cut can be extremely emotional. Crying is not uncommon, because it took years and years to grow your hair. It's been a part of your self-image for a long time. Then suddenly it's gone! It can be devastating, even if you wanted the haircut.

If you don't want to pay extra for a shampoo, some salons will spritz your hair with water to dampen it. The last time I had a haircut, I had waist-length hair, so she took me to the sink, but only wet my hair down instead of using shampoo. My hair was simply too long and thick for a spray bottle to work.

After that, they'll take you back to the chair and wrap a cape around you, to prevent hair from getting on your clothing. Glasses must be removed. If your hair is long, they'll put it in a ponytail first and cut that off. You can keep it, if you want, or you can donate it to a company that makes wigs for cancer patients. However, when I researched these companies, they apparently don't give the wigs to patients, but sell them. I thought that smelled of a scam, so I decided to keep my hair.

They will ask what kind of haircut you want, and if you provide photos, the stylist will bless you. It's hard to work off a verbal description! I always print a photo of the hairstyle I want, front and back. To get started, they will divide your hair into sections, clipping them (with jaw clips) out of the way while they work on one area at a time. There is a lot of combing involved while they work. They really get in there, using their fingers to move your hair around, checking to be sure each side is the same length, and so forth. Sometimes they'll use a special tool to add texture or thin your hair out. This can be quite painful, since they yank on your hair as they're doing it. If your haircut is extremely short, they will use an electric razor to shave the back of your neck. I hate this, since it always grows back before I can return to the salon, so what's the point?

Once they're done, they'll usually apply some kind of product to your hair and style it as they blow it dry. I usually don't agree with the stylist's idea of "pretty" . . . it often involves lots of teasing and poofiness, which I abhor.

If someone has curly hair, cutting it requires special training--which most salon workers don't have. For instance, you don't want to cut it wet, since that straightens it. Once it dries, the curls tighten and your haircut is suddenly several inches shorter than you thought it was going to be. They also tend to use a straightening iron or blow dry your hair straight, which is annoying (to me, at least) because I don't have time to do that at home. I want my haircut to represent what I will see when I wash and dry my hair myself, so I'm not disappointed when I get home. I've only had one stylist who actually realized my hair was curly. I didn't know it myself at the time, since I'd always brushed my hair out, so it was extremely frizzy, but she showed me how to apply gel and scrunch my hair, instead of brushing it, to bring out the curls. It was amazing! For the first time in my life, I had pretty hair, instead of a frizzy halo.

I don't know much about perms, except they aren't that popular these days, unless you're a little old lady. Perhaps spiral perms are more popular? The chemicals are harsh, so they probably wouldn't redo a perm unless it had been several months. And like others have said, you can't really ruin a perm by getting it wet, unless it's right after it was done. And in that case, it would be dangerous to redo it. The chemicals might disintegrate her hair or cause it to become brittle and break off.

Mark Moore
10-15-2013, 06:37 PM
Wow, thanks for the replies, everyone! :) I really don't know much about hair. I didn't even know perms aren't popular anymore. Then again, I honestly don't even know what a perm is. I just know it's a "hair thing". Anything more modern that I can substitute?

Also, are those things that they put on you to protect your clothes really called capes? I called them "aprons".

sheadakota
10-15-2013, 07:11 PM
yup they are called capes. what about having her go in for a blow out. Its popular these days. Its not as porn as it sounds:tongue. Basically a girl who wants her longish hair straightened, or have beachy-like waves put in can go and have it styled that way. maybe she is going someplace special? Or even going in for a mani-pedi? girls do that every few weeks or so- or so I've heard. OR perhaps she colors her hair, tried to save some money and do it at home and had a disaster, she calls in for an emergency color fix. Happen to me:D.

Mark Moore
10-15-2013, 07:44 PM
what about having her go in for a blow out. Its popular these days. Its not as porn as it sounds:tongue.

Not that she'd care, hehe. I could even have her make a joke about it.


Basically a girl who wants her longish hair straightened, or have beachy-like waves put in can go and have it styled that way. maybe she is going someplace special? Or even going in for a mani-pedi? girls do that every few weeks or so- or so I've heard. OR perhaps she colors her hair, tried to save some money and do it at home and had a disaster, she calls in for an emergency color fix. Happen to me:D.

The girl (Amber) is a natural redhead (though that won't stop the accusations!). She's new in this city and has met two other girls at her new school: Liz (an average girl) and Bernice (a rich girl like Amber). The salon trip is a reason to make them hang out together (while Liz at least tries to be cordial and welcoming, Bernice can't stand Amber, and Amber feels both are beneath her) and to introduce a plot point. Basically, Amber gets caught in the rain on the way out of school, and her hair is ruined, so Liz suggests a nearby salon that she and Bernice frequent. The introduction of the plot point at the salon leaves Amber shaken, so Liz then suggests dinner at a nearby restaurant to relax and calm down.

Little Anonymous Me
10-15-2013, 09:30 PM
She could also get highlights (light streaks) or lowlights (dark streaks), or something else done with the color.

MagicWriter
10-16-2013, 07:36 AM
Basically, Amber gets caught in the rain on the way out of school, and her hair is ruined, so Liz suggests a nearby salon that she and Bernice frequent.

Give Amber wild naturally curly hair. Have her hair straightened with a flat iron at a salon, or blown out. So, now her hair is stick straight, shiny and sleek, and perhaps not a look that she has ever experienced. When her hair gets wet in the rain, it will start to curl up, ruining her new sleek look.

...and if you want something extreme for that third girl in the salon, have her go blond if she's a brunette, or vice verse. Forget the perms.

shaldna
10-16-2013, 03:47 PM
I've got a scene in a current WIP where one of my MCs is taken to a salon by two other girls, because her perm got ruined in the rain. She is gonna get a new perm, another girl is gonna be daring and get her long hair cut short, and the third girl...I dunno (I've got her getting a perm as well, but I'd welcome suggestions for something else).

As others have said, you're not supposed to wash your hair for the first 24 hours. During which time your hair will smell like chemical egg.

After that you just wash it as normal. You'd have to be trying pretty hard to damage the curl. It's called a perm for a reason - permanent wave / curl is the actual name.

If she's had the perm for a while her hair will be fine. If she got it done yesterday then she'll cause a lot of damage by getting a new one, and she'd be very hard pushed to find a salon who would be willing to do it - no one wants to get sued.



What would the step-by-step process be for getting a perm, getting a short haircut, etc.? I recall the first thing that they did at Sams was wash my hair.

Depends if you are going for a dry cut or a cut and blow dry. If you are getting the full works - wash, cut and blow dry then they will wash your hair, cut and style. If you are getting a dry cut or a cut and blow dry then they will usually just spritz your hair and cut it while slightly damp, then give it a quick dry and style.




Also, are those things that they put on you to protect your clothes really called capes? I called them "aprons".

Yep. Capes.


yup they are called capes. what about having her go in for a blow out. Its popular these days. Its not as porn as it sounds:tongue. Basically a girl who wants her longish hair straightened, or have beachy-like waves put in can go and have it styled that way. maybe she is going someplace special? Or even going in for a mani-pedi? girls do that every few weeks or so- or so I've heard. OR perhaps she colors her hair, tried to save some money and do it at home and had a disaster, she calls in for an emergency color fix. Happen to me:D.

There are seveal types of blow out. You can get it blow straight, but it will got back to it's natural shape after you wash it or get it wet. Probably not a good idea for someone who had a perm - when it gets wet you are going to be looking at a big frizzy mess.

There are also chemical blow outs which are like a reverse perm. Your hair will be straight for about 6 weeks. They are usually called a brazillian blow dry.



She could also get highlights (light streaks) or lowlights (dark streaks), or something else done with the color.

Dying permed hair is really complicated as the hair will take the colour more unpredictably and often more intensely. You can end up with a mess. Also, if the perm is recent then dying it could cause a huge amount of damage.

Also, so many chemical treatments could really damage her scalp too.

Little Anonymous Me
10-17-2013, 12:10 AM
Dying permed hair is really complicated as the hair will take the colour more unpredictably and often more intensely. You can end up with a mess. Also, if the perm is recent then dying it could cause a huge amount of damage.

Also, so many chemical treatments could really damage her scalp too.


I meant that as an alternative to getting the perm in the first place. ;)