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I'm sure it depends on a million factors such as what genre they represent...
I'm sure it's a large number, just curious what it is... I'm sure it depends on a million factors such as what genre they represent...
I'm sure it's a large number, just curious what it is... I'm sure it depends on a million factors such as what genre they represent...
On a kind of related subject, I always wonder how the math works out.
Say 100 agents averaging 100 queries a week (might be low)
100 * 100 * 52 = 520,000 queries a year
Assume each author writes one novel a year, and queries thirty agents average .
520,000 / 30 = 17,300 project written every year (assuming all novels were actually written at the time of the query, I guess some queries are for picture books and non-fiction proposals.) Anyway, seems like maybe 10,000 novels written each year????
Does this sound even remotely correct? So, in query letter hell we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg. It's scary enough submitting with the help of the squirrels. Submitting without help sounds like a disaster for the average author.
On a kind of related subject, I always wonder how the math works out.
Say 100 agents averaging 100 queries a week (might be low)
100 * 100 * 52 = 520,000 queries a year
Assume each author writes one novel a year, and queries thirty agents average .
520,000 / 30 = 17,300 project written every year (assuming all novels were actually written at the time of the query, I guess some queries are for picture books and non-fiction proposals.) Anyway, seems like maybe 10,000 novels written each year???? You're not counting all those novels that aren't queried to agents: those that are self-published, e-published only, or sent directly to the publishers, writers who already have agents, those novels that are written and trunked, and probably some more I haven't thought of.
And even then, the number seems too small. Many agents get more than a 100 queries a week. And I'm sure there are more than a hundred agents, far more if you count those who are not very good or a downright scam.
Does this sound even remotely correct? So, in query letter hell we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg. It's scary enough submitting with the help of the squirrels. Submitting without help sounds like a disaster for the average author.
What's even scarier is those who make it through QLH, I suspect are at the top of the iceberg, quality-wise. I *think* queries like slushpilehell are actually more common than the queries from QLH.
One of the agent blogs I read said the agent received 100-200 queries a week. Less than 50% were in genres she actually represented and followed her very clearly posted guidelines correctly. And that's not even getting in the quality of the queries and MS. Last year she signed one new author.
On a kind of related subject, I always wonder how the math works out.
Say 100 agents averaging 100 queries a week (might be low)
100 * 100 * 52 = 520,000 queries a year
Assume each author writes one novel a year, and queries thirty agents average .
520,000 / 30 = 17,300 project written every year (assuming all novels were actually written at the time of the query, I guess some queries are for picture books and non-fiction proposals.) Anyway, seems like maybe 10,000 novels written each year????
Does this sound even remotely correct? So, in query letter hell we're only seeing the tip of the iceberg. It's scary enough submitting with the help of the squirrels. Submitting without help sounds like a disaster for the average author.
Here's the rub. The average agent has her (they are all women, aren't they?) day filled with meetings trying to get her 20 or so contracted authors' books, film treatments, and scripts placed. She spends the other hours trying to get said authors to get off the couch and finish the project that's due yesterday (or if she's lucky, tomorrow). She'll be lining up the talent for the writers' conference she's agreed to host.
She is in no way looking to take on another headache.
And yet... in the 400-500 queries she'll scan when she finally gets a minute, there just MIGHT be a gem. The next 50 Shades, the next Harry Potter. So, she keeps her listing current.
Don't hold your breath.
Here's the rub. The average agent has her (they are all women, aren't they?) (While yes, publishing does seem to be one of the few industries in which women outnumber men, some great agents are men.) day filled with meetings trying to get her 20 or so (Some agents have many, many more than 20. Some have fewer.) contracted authors' books, film treatments, and scripts placed. (Many agencies have a person or work with a person who specializes in film rights. I'm not aware of many literary agencies that actually place or represent scripts.) She spends the other hours trying to get said authors to get off the couch and finish the project that's due yesterday (or if she's lucky, tomorrow). (I have no idea about this. I've never heard an agent complain about such a thing.) She'll be lining up the talent for the writers' conference she's agreed to host. (I've heard of very few agents who actually host a conference. Some teach courses or attend conferences as speakers, but I don't think most are involved in lining up talent for these events.)
She is in no way looking to take on another headache.
And yet... in the 400-500 queries she'll scan when she finally gets a minute, there just MIGHT be a gem. The next 50 Shades, the next Harry Potter. So, she keeps her listing current. (Yes, many agents do read queries in their evenings or at the end of the day. They may have interns to help, as well. But all of the agents whose blogs or twitter feeds I follow are genuinely excited about finding talent in the query pile.)
Don't hold your breath. (Yeah, getting noticed in the query pile is sort of long odds, but it's certainly not impossible, especially if you work to write a good query, have a good manuscript, know your market, and research the agents you query. More than one of us here at AW has done it successfully.)
Here's the rub. The average agent has her (they are all women, aren't they?) day filled with meetings trying to get her 20 or so contracted authors' books, film treatments, and scripts placed.
His or her day is full, but few rep all of those categories, and many have more than 20 clients.
She spends the other hours trying to get said authors to get off the couch and finish the project that's due yesterday (or if she's lucky, tomorrow).
I actually doubt most agents spend a lot of time cajolling their authors. Now, they do have contracts to read, fires to put out, deals to negotiate, many do some editorial work with clients, etc. They are full days.
She'll be lining up the talent for the writers' conference she's agreed to host.
Few agents host a lot of conferences, and it's not the "normal" part of their jobs when they do it.
She is in no way looking to take on another headache.
Now that is true, which is why they often google prospective clients so they can weed out the probable headaches.
And yet... in the 400-500 queries she'll scan when she finally gets a minute, there just MIGHT be a gem.
Numbers will vary, as will query reading time, and I'll agree they are looking for the extraordinary in the piles of meh and not-ready and fine but not great.
The next 50 Shades, the next Harry Potter.
Sure, profitable if you can sign those. But they are also looking for a host of other books.
So, she keeps her listing current.
Don't hold your breath.
Well, queriers should never hold their breath. Working toward being published takes patience, and oxygen.
Here's the rub. The average agent has her (they are all women, aren't they?) day filled with meetings trying to get her 20 or so contracted authors' books, film treatments, and scripts placed. She spends the other hours trying to get said authors to get off the couch and finish the project that's due yesterday (or if she's lucky, tomorrow). She'll be lining up the talent for the writers' conference she's agreed to host.
She is in no way looking to take on another headache.
And yet... in the 400-500 queries she'll scan when she finally gets a minute, there just MIGHT be a gem. The next 50 Shades, the next Harry Potter. So, she keeps her listing current.
Don't hold your breath.
I would be curious to know how many submissions are rejected because the rules for submissions were blatantly ignored. The low ratio of acceptances to queries is disconcerting, but I hope an author could increase his or her odds significantly simply by paying attention to the submission guidelines.
Here's the rub. The average agent has her (they are all women, aren't they?)
day filled with meetings trying to get her 20 or so contracted authors' books, film treatments, and scripts placed.
She spends the other hours trying to get said authors to get off the couch and finish the project that's due yesterday (or if she's lucky, tomorrow). She'll be lining up the talent for the writers' conference she's agreed to host.
She is in no way looking to take on another headache.
I would be curious to know how many submissions are rejected because the rules for submissions were blatantly ignored. The low ratio of acceptances to queries is disconcerting, but I hope an author could increase his or her odds significantly simply by paying attention to the submission guidelines.
Hi, I'm new here and apologize that I haven't done my profile yet.
I was asked by two agents at Grub Street's Marketplace and the Muse conference for my full MS. How flattering! That was early May, and I haven't heard back from either one. How deflating. I know they're busy, but you'd think I'd hear something from at least one of them. (These are not shlock agencies - Sterling Lord Literistic and Barer Literary.)
I think querying is a waste of time and I can't afford to keep going to conferences. So it looks like I'm going to self-publish. I'm 65 and just can't sit around waiting forever.