To Select or not to Select?

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WEM

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I've decided to take the plunge and self-publish. I'm going to usen Amazon KDP, but the question is - do I go for Amazon Select, or not?

If I do, my royalties might be better, but I won't be able to use, say, Kobo for 3 months. That will shut off the Kobo option. And vice versa.

Does anyone have any views on the subject?

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For the first 19 months my books were on sale I made more (about ten-twenty times more) from my non-Amazon sales than my Amazon sales. Now maybe if I'd used Select, my Amazon sales would have been higher than they were, but that's a big risk. You're cutting off a LOT of potential customers if you choose to restrict your sales to Amazon.
 

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I tried the KDP from Amazon on several stories based on what I read in terms of redirecting sales from freebie days. I did experience a lot of free downloads but very little translation into direct sales. Bottomline - I won't do it again.
 

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Michael, Girlyswot,

Thanks for the advice. I'll probably go with standard Amazon and then Kobo as well. I'm in the UK, so I can't use Barnes & Noble.

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Hey WEM, I'm in the UK too. I'd recommend going Kobo and Amazon directly, and then using Smashwords to get your books onto B&N, Sony and Apple. Some people are recommending Draft2Digital as an alternative to Smashwords, but I've not used them so I don't know how good they are.

For Select... I would only go Select with a book in a series of more than three books. That way you can attract readers to the other books in your series. I don't think it helps with just one book.

My advice... spend a few months gathering reviews, put your book on Goodreads etc. Write and release another book. Then think about paying for a Bookbub advert. They are expensive, but you'll find your readers.
 

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Select has been a fantastic boon for me, an additional $1,000+ per month, so far. I dallied with it once before, and was disappointed, but when I took the plunge and stuck all my titles up there, it started paying off big time.
 

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I forgot about borrows -- they can be good earners for people on Select.
 

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I'm in the UK and really love Select - mainly because I earn quite a lot from borrows of my books! I don't bother with the free promotion side of things though.

I may well move on and make my books available for other readers eventually but have had nothing but stress and woe with Smashwords so far and don't think I know anyone IRL with a Kobo reader (which makes me wonder how many people have one) so I'm not sure if it's worth the effort of putting my books on to their site and then losing my revenue from Amazon borrows as a result. Right now, I'm just not sure it would be financially worth my while.

I'll wait until UK writers can deal directly with B&N and maybe look into it again then.
 

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I'm beginning to wonder if I should go Select now... 90% of my sales are from Amazon anyway.

Ha ha! I've talked myself out of my own advice!
 

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I think it depends on your strategy. If you don't have a good idea on how you will sell on other avenues, it's probably worth starting off with Select.
 

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I'd recommend Select. I have precious few sales outside of Amazon although iTunes isn't too bad. It's always a good thing to allow for lightning to strike and that means having your book widely available, but building reviews is really important and free days are pretty key for that IMO.
 

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I had a few titles in select, and it worked out ok, at the time. BUT...now my Barnes and Noble sales alone are three times more than my Amazon, and sales are picking up significantly at Kobo, iTunes, etc.

Like has been mentioned, the other places do have a good portion of buyers. Why risk your book being 'out of sight, out of mind' for three months?
 

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I've decided to take the plunge and self-publish. I'm going to usen Amazon KDP, but the question is - do I go for Amazon Select, or not?

If I do, my royalties might be better, but I won't be able to use, say, Kobo for 3 months. That will shut off the Kobo option. And vice versa.

Does anyone have any views on the subject?

Thanks,

No, I would not use KDP select again. The two main things they offer are the use of the 3 free days and the inclusion in the shared pot for book "borrows". I had thousands of downloads on the free days which did not translate into sales or reviews. The number of borrowed books was minimal as well.

You have the same royalty options with KDP if you choose Select or not.

I have seen better sales with my books priced in the $3.99-4.99 range than I ever saw messing around with free days, borrowing, and .99 cent days. And being exclusive to Amazon was sooooo not worth losing the sales in other venues.

Just my experience, TIFWIW. Different genres see different results, so your mileage may vary.

Good luck & congrats on making it to this milestone. Happy sales to you!


**Edited to add: I really thought the free days would be a great way to "build a fan base" and get my books out there. Although I had tons of downloads, this did not carry over into paid sales, so I had to come to terms with myself. Did people just click on it because it was free, or did they actually want to read it and then share what they liked with their friends? Sadly, I concluded that no, the freebies did not do that for me.
I have found that readers who seek out my book because they are interested in the genre, buy it and like it, and then talk about it to their friends, well, those are the fans that are sending potential new readers my way.
I give my book away to people who contact me and ask for ARCs, or who I see IRL who say they want to read it. THOSE are the ones that talk & generate new interest.
I was disappointed I wasted 3 months in Select, but again...lesson learned, right?
 
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I'm watching this thread with interest as this is something I've been wondering about as well.

Has anyone noticed if there's a genre difference? As in, scifi sells enough through other venues to make it worthwhile, but nonfiction everyone buys through Amazon (<-- making these up as an example)? Those of you who have seen a pronounced difference one way or another, what genres do you write in?

There are also the non-financial considerations I'm thinking about -- on the one hand, I'd save a lot of time by just doing Amazon, and I wouldn't have to deal with multiple platforms, multiple accounts, multiple stats if I want to compile. On the other hand, philosophically I don't like having my books ONLY available through Amazon, as I want to be able to provide them to customers who have some sort of philosophical beef with Amazon and would rather buy elsewhere.
 

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I think you may be right about genre being a factor. I write romance which has strong sales across all platforms and in many countries worldwide. Amazon is dominant in the US and to a lesser extent in the UK. Not everywhere else. Kobo is huge internationally. So it's worth thinking about who is going to buy your book and where they are.
 

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I agree, girlyswot & slhuang, I think genre has a lot of bearing on it as well.

Kobo is huge overseas.

I use Amazon KDP, and the Smashwords for all other venues. It was a little intensive formatting to the Smashwords specifications, but worth it. That way I only have 2 places to deal with.
Oh, wait a sec, I lied. I started selling on Allromance.com, which was a nice surprise and a wonderful site as well. I highly recommend them to anyone in the genre.
 

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I've decided to take the plunge and self-publish. I'm going to usen Amazon KDP, but the question is - do I go for Amazon Select, or not?

If I do, my royalties might be better, but I won't be able to use, say, Kobo for 3 months. That will shut off the Kobo option. And vice versa.

Does anyone have any views on the subject?

Thanks,

As ebbrown mentioned, whether or not you choose to use select has no bearing at all on your royalties. Under 2.99 and over 9.99 gets you a 35% royalty and if you price your book between 2.99 and 9.99, you'll get a 70% royalty. That's one thing you don't have to worry about.
 
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Does KDP select cost anything? Or just the fact that you can't put it anywhere else? I am far away from being ready to publish but this was something I tried to look into and couldn't find the answer.
 

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Svader, Select doesn't cost anything. It's just a matter of clicking a checkbox when uploading your book.
 

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I am still a new author with limited experience, but I have nothing but good things to say about KDP Select. Let's face it, Amazon is dominating the ebook market right now and that doesn't look to change in the foreseeable future. If you can get enough sales to land in one of Amazon's top 100 categories you will not lack for attention. Ultimately the 70% royalty is too good to pass up.
 

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Does KDP select cost anything? Or just the fact that you can't put it anywhere else? I am far away from being ready to publish but this was something I tried to look into and couldn't find the answer.

There is no cost but there are certain conditions.

1) You will have to price your book within the $2.99 to $9.99 price range.

2) You cannot sell your ebook on any other platform, including your own website.

3) Readers will be able to 'borrow' your book without buying it. You are still paid for these borrows, so I don't see that as much of a burden.

These conditions are only for your ebooks, you are free to price your paperbacks as you please (though there is a minimum) and you can sell them on other platforms.

If you are okay with these conditions you can make a 70% royalty on your ebook sales.
 

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There is no cost but there are certain conditions.

1) You will have to price your book within the $2.99 to $9.99 price range.

If you are okay with these conditions you can make a 70% royalty on your ebook sales.

Actually, 1) is incorrect. You do not have to price your books between $2.99 and $9.99 to put your book in Kindle Select. You can price them however you like. But, to get a 70% royalty, Select or not, they must be priced between $2.99 and $9.99.

Also, the normal royalty for ebooks sales in Brazil, Japan and India is 35% for any price point (pretty sure that's right - feel free to correct me if I'm wrong - anyone), but that becomes 70% in those countries when you're in select.
 

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I am still a new author with limited experience, but I have nothing but good things to say about KDP Select. Let's face it, Amazon is dominating the ebook market right now and that doesn't look to change in the foreseeable future. If you can get enough sales to land in one of Amazon's top 100 categories you will not lack for attention. Ultimately the 70% royalty is too good to pass up.

This is wrong on at least two counts. Amazon is NOT dominating the ebook market. It is the big player in the US, but not globally. Even in the US, B&N take 26% of the market and Apple recently claimed to take 20% of the market. That leaves Amazon with a small majority. But if you choose Kindle Select, you are cutting off up to 46% of US buyers and a far greater proportion internationally.

Second, you do not have to be in Select to get the 70% rate. Any KDP book can get a 70% royalty if priced between $2.99 and $9.99.

Before you make any decisions, do your research more carefully.
 
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