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Darkranger85
05-13-2013, 06:32 AM
Alright,

I have various questions, some are fairly simple and others require a much more in depth explanation.

Hopefully someone out there can answer most of them.

Unit Composition and Leadership:

Ok, at the moment the main characters of my story are a 6 man team. If I'm not mistaken, this is what would be called a 'fireteam.'

I've done some research and it seems that this level of team is typically lead by a Sargent. I've taken a few liberties and my team is as follows.

1 GySgt
1 SSgt
1 Sgt
1 Cpl
2 PFC

What I'd like to know is if there is any kind of 'typical' skillset that would be incorporated into a unit. (eg 1 Sharpshooter, 1 Demolitions, etc etc)

Unit Designations:

Ok, I'm trying to figure out how to name my units. X Unit X Company etc etc etc.

Right now my main squad is attached to a fleet I call the '5th Tactical Response Group.'

It has with it, 2 companies of Marines.

Unit Communication:

How does the unit communicate while in the field. Say my team is on a mission with enemies around and such. How would radio communication sound? How would they address each other, relay instructions, slang and radio lingo, etc etc

Unit Tactics:

Ok, this is the one I'm hoping to get a more in depth explanation.

I would like my descriptions of my action scenes to me more or less believable. So I would like to know how a small unit acts, in detail.

Inside a structure: Right from breaching the door, how they cover certain spots, climb stair wells, etc etc

Urban: Watching windows and such, how the unit moves through uncovered areas, etc

Anything that you can think of.

This last one is important to me, especially because my story starts out with my fleet disabling and boarding a small ship. So they will be breaching the airlock and storming the ship.

This is just for starters. I'm sure I will have more questions as time goes on.

Thanks guys! I really appreciate any and all help!

Richard White
05-13-2013, 08:38 AM
Your fireteam is a tad too NCO Heavy, even if it is a special ops team.

I'd expect a small team like this to be lead by an E-6 (Staff Sergeant), maybe a Sergeant (E-5) or a Corporal (E-4) as the assistant team leader. Then a mix of Lance Corporals (E-3) and Private First Class (E-2). Most Privates (E-1) get promoted pretty quick unless they're screw-ups or have been demoted to E-1 (again - screw-up).

You'd probably have the leader, asst. leader, grenadier, squad weapons person, and two riflemen if it was a generic infantry unit. For a special ops team, you might have one of the riflemen exchanged for an explosives expert and the other rifleman might double as the team medic.

(This is based on experience with the U.S. Marines, not service in the Marines. Other countries' marines may organize differently.)

Others who've been in the Marines might be able to help out with the radio protocol and other tactics. I know U.S. Army stuff but, since I was never in the infantry, (assigned to an infantry division yes, actually an 11-series soldier, no), I'm probably not the person to discuss MOUT (Military Operations in Urban Terrain.

Drachen Jager
05-13-2013, 08:55 AM
Unit Communication:

How does the unit communicate while in the field. Say my team is on a mission with enemies around and such. How would radio communication sound? How would they address each other, relay instructions, slang and radio lingo, etc etc

In my experience it was usually a double-digit number followed by a letter for unit designations, for quite a while I was Eight Eight Bravo for instance. The numbers represented company (first digit) platoon (second) and the letter was for the squad. This is for Battalion level communications, anything higher than Battalion level was above my pay-grade. Your radio 'name' is called a "call sign".

"Eight Eight Alpha, this is Eight Eight Bravo." Would be a typical beginning to a message. If you can tell me what you want to say, I can probably help more. Learn the phonetic alphabet, or find a copy you can use. Never say 'repeat' unless you want them to repeat a fire-mission. If something was unclear, the phrase is "say again"

There are probably better resources for radio lingo than just asking. Again if you had more specifics I could probably be of more help.

Thanks guys! I really appreciate any and all help!

I'll try not to derail this one. ;)

Crayonz
05-13-2013, 09:03 AM
What White said.

As for MOUT, you can do a quick Youtube search and see how soldiers (in training) do it. And, random tibit, a "sharpshooter" is a title for a rifleman based on how good a shot they are. ;)


How does the unit communicate while in the field. Say my team is on a mission with enemies around and such. How would radio communication sound? How would they address each other, relay instructions, slang and radio lingo, etc etc
For the most part they'd be using hand signals so that the enemy wouldn't overhear them. If they had to use a radio, it would be short and sweet and involving code words that are a mixture of basic military lingo and what they as a group decided to use. Addressing each other over the radio, they would use their call signs (Grounder 2, Shadow 35, etc). Once enemy contact is made and shots are fired, most of the communication would be shouting and hand signals.

Drachen Jager
05-13-2013, 09:05 AM
Have a look at these, they'll probably answer some more of your questions and give you a little better foundation understanding. I had an older version of the first one of these when I was serving, as far as I can tell these are both the current manuals in use.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19881462/Platoon-Commander-Handbook

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/usmc/mcrp/3-11-1a/mcrp3-11-1a_1998.pdf

Darkranger85
05-13-2013, 06:57 PM
Alright guys, thanks for the info so far! :)

Heres a question I thought of.

Say my men are boarding a ship (99% hallways and rooms) will their armaments differ from what they would bring to an outdoors urban environment?

Drachen Jager
05-13-2013, 08:30 PM
Depends on the type of unit. Regular Army (and I'd imagine Marines) normally carry one load-out of kit that's supposed to carry them through all their missions. More specialized forces have a wider range of choices.

In your future-world setting you can choose. If I were in charge and weapons were vaguely similar to what we have today, I'd want most of them equipped with submachine guns or something similar, and if you have a sniper, he'd certainly carry something different. It really depends on what kind of engagement they're expecting. Certainly grenades/flashbangs etc. would be far more useful in that environment.

I think you have to look at the environment and take things like decompression into account as a tactic if you want to be realistic (it only takes a small hole per airtight compartment and you force the opposition into some form of suit, alternately those controlling the ship can decompress, which forces the attackers to wear suits)

Darkranger85
05-13-2013, 09:16 PM
I've done something similar to that already.

The ship hulls in my story are too thick to be penetrated my small arms fire. However the ship was pretty badly hit by the larger ships in my fleet before being boarded.

My team will be going in with suits right from the get go.

blacbird
05-14-2013, 08:21 AM
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I've done some research and it seems that this level of team is typically lead by a Sargent. I've taken a few liberties and my team is as follows.

1 GySgt
1 SSgt
1 Sgt
1 Cpl
2 PFC


1. The correct spelling, everywhere, is "sergeant".

2. The rank list above is a mix of U.S. Marine terminology and U.S. Army terminology. In the Marines, the rank structure for the same ranks and order you list, goes:


GySgt (Gunnery Sergeant)
SSgt (Staff Sergeant)
Sgt (Sergeant)
Cpl (Corporal)
LCpl (Lance Corporal)

In the Army, it goes:

Sgt 1C (Sergeant First-Class)
Ssgt (Staff Sergeant)
Sgt (Sergeant)
CPl (Corporal)* or SPC (Specialist)
PFC (Private First Class)

*Corporal is a rare rank in today's Army, and has been so for more than forty years, since the Vietnam-era invention of "specialist" ranks.

caw

PFmonstar
05-26-2013, 07:38 AM
1st the gysgt will be called gunny anything below a cpl will called by their name. If a cpl is talking to a sgt he will call him by his rank. This goes for everyone who is talking to someone above their rank except lcpl and below. A company of marines will be about a 100 of them. Broken into 4 platoons 1st, 2nd and 3rd the last is a weapons plot that has demo guys/anti mech heavy gunners and mortar men. All infantry are all grunts and other marines are called POGs (Person Other than Grunt) Grunts don't like being called POGs. That can start a fight.
You have no officers, where are they? In a company u have a captain who runs the company he can be called skipper. Every plt will have a lieutenant he runs the plt all officers are called sir by enlisted. Lieutenants have little experience at first their are two types 1st LT and 2nd LTs. 2nds have gold bars and are fresh out of school they are called gold bars. 1st lt have silver bars and have experience.
Also where are the corpmen or medics they will be called doc. One per plt.
I spent over 4 years in the US marines as a grunt and some time with a S/S (scout/sniper plt. I don't know about other countries but I do know about the US marines. As far as comm goes and slang watch full metal jacket or Aliens there are lot things grunts would say all the time. The gunny in the opening when they get out of cyro is typical of manny gunnys "All right sweethearts, what are you waiting for, breakfast in bed? Another glorious day in the corps. A day in the Marine Corps is like a day on the farm. Every meal is a banquet. Every paycheck a fortune. Every formation a parade. I LOVE the corps!"
these are a few of the Classics
"I'm too short" means a person is getting out soon and does not want to play anymore.
"Hurry up and wait"
"Big green weenie"- ur getting screwed by the corp
Those are just a few hope that helps

PFmonstar
05-26-2013, 07:45 AM
US marines goes Company names military alphabet alpha, bravo, Charlie, delta, echo, fox, golf...

PFmonstar
05-26-2013, 07:55 AM
If they are in a ship they will not do MOUT that is for urban fighting in a city. For fighting in a building or ship they will use CQB (Close Quarters Battle) They will make stack and go threw every room the same way.
Fire team is 4 men lead by a cpl.
Squad is made up of 3 fire teams lead by sgt.
Plt is 3 squads lead by sgt - gunny.
Now I have never ever been on a deployment with a full plt. Just does not happen people get injuries, sick, or killed.