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'cause it was started in another thread... and I thought it might be useful to some people. Plus it's less likely to be blind leading the blind around here.
Mostly, we've covered Japan, but I thought China, Taiwan, Korea(s) Mongolia and Russia (that part) could join in.
Topics brought up (so far):
- Xenophobia in Japan versus other countries.
- Media exchange of music, comic books and dramas between the various countries (or lack of having a media ^^;; Mongolia...)
- International attitudes towards countries.
- Racial attitudes towards ethnic groups. (Koreans, Ainu, Westerners, Blacks)/compared to the US/Canada (mainly.
- Cultural change such as Monster Parents of Japan, attitudes towards women and teachers in Japan.
- Loose and fast discussion of language and influence...
- Attribution of cultural ideas.
- Possible influence in the future and how fast the change might come or not come at all.
I probably forgot a few... but this probably will go into a bit of nerdiness... geekiness too.
Anyway, I know South Korea is desperate to catch up with the world, so in the last few years, the younger generation is showing a sharp increase in tolerance towards certain groups that were previously considered unaccepted. The government is also making such pushes, though because of the high rate of foreign adoptions, there is kinda a "scare" about foreign adopted people coming in.
Despite that, I'm really surprised at the last 3-4 years at the sharp acceptance of Japanese cultural ideas. (See Japanese Occupation.) There is also a strong gain in Korean pride as well, versus the shame, but the generation gap is fairly wide, especially politically as the country often moves faster than the people who are living in it can keep up. (Historically and anthropologically, you can see this in high divorce and suicide rates, also lots of single mothers.... see French)
South Korea also has its first publicly transgendered actress. She got no flack for it from her coworkers and several said she was always that way in their minds anyway.... In some ways South Korea in its media is kicking the US's butt. It's not perfect by a long shot, but it's moving forward faster than the generations are keeping up with it. Doesn't mean the laws will change soon though... (South Korean politics tends to be slow).
South Korean TV also has an English channel and one dedicated to American TV--you can even see it in rural parts of the country. (And when I mean rural... it makes Wyoming look posh)
Civil Rights-wise, If You Were Me movies (which are hard to watch) I think out strips some American movies on civil rights. (The one where the kid gets surgery on his tongue so he can speak English is hard to watch.) Upside, you get a sense of the diversity of South Korea as well.
My prediction is the whole industrialization thing is going to take a while to wort out--there is still backlash and South Korea is trying really hard to catch up. I'd like it if South Korea caught up to the idealization it puts forward in its dramas and variety shows--which is how it's going.
Also has their first female president. =P Did it faster than the US... (I mean in sheer amount of presidents)
China I hear mixed reports on, but the dramas tend to be more fairytalish. (With a few exceptions), and I don't see any politcal change coming from the dramas or changing the state. (Some of my Chinese friends expressed displeasure in this and the sad endings. =P I asked and by and large everyone said, "I don't know any classic tales with happy endings." When I said about putting on a sad ending, I heard, "Please don't. I'm sick of sad endings." <-- joke, clearly.)
The thing is that I haven't seen anyone outside of Mainstream Chinese Han in any drama being portrayed except, maybe in historical dramas.
Taiwanese dramas are better anyway. (Mainland Chinese say that too. ^.~)
What surprised me, though is the level of cultural exchange in East Asia... which astonishes me. Subtitles in broad daylight of various movies and so on. Hawaii, CA, and maybe Washington State might get that, but for Hong Kong, Japan and Korea, I spotted subtitles on foreign media, and not all of it from the US either. Makes me wonder about the future of these countries...
Mostly, we've covered Japan, but I thought China, Taiwan, Korea(s) Mongolia and Russia (that part) could join in.
Topics brought up (so far):
- Xenophobia in Japan versus other countries.
- Media exchange of music, comic books and dramas between the various countries (or lack of having a media ^^;; Mongolia...)
- International attitudes towards countries.
- Racial attitudes towards ethnic groups. (Koreans, Ainu, Westerners, Blacks)/compared to the US/Canada (mainly.
- Cultural change such as Monster Parents of Japan, attitudes towards women and teachers in Japan.
- Loose and fast discussion of language and influence...
- Attribution of cultural ideas.
- Possible influence in the future and how fast the change might come or not come at all.
I probably forgot a few... but this probably will go into a bit of nerdiness... geekiness too.
Anyway, I know South Korea is desperate to catch up with the world, so in the last few years, the younger generation is showing a sharp increase in tolerance towards certain groups that were previously considered unaccepted. The government is also making such pushes, though because of the high rate of foreign adoptions, there is kinda a "scare" about foreign adopted people coming in.
Despite that, I'm really surprised at the last 3-4 years at the sharp acceptance of Japanese cultural ideas. (See Japanese Occupation.) There is also a strong gain in Korean pride as well, versus the shame, but the generation gap is fairly wide, especially politically as the country often moves faster than the people who are living in it can keep up. (Historically and anthropologically, you can see this in high divorce and suicide rates, also lots of single mothers.... see French)
South Korea also has its first publicly transgendered actress. She got no flack for it from her coworkers and several said she was always that way in their minds anyway.... In some ways South Korea in its media is kicking the US's butt. It's not perfect by a long shot, but it's moving forward faster than the generations are keeping up with it. Doesn't mean the laws will change soon though... (South Korean politics tends to be slow).
South Korean TV also has an English channel and one dedicated to American TV--you can even see it in rural parts of the country. (And when I mean rural... it makes Wyoming look posh)
Civil Rights-wise, If You Were Me movies (which are hard to watch) I think out strips some American movies on civil rights. (The one where the kid gets surgery on his tongue so he can speak English is hard to watch.) Upside, you get a sense of the diversity of South Korea as well.
My prediction is the whole industrialization thing is going to take a while to wort out--there is still backlash and South Korea is trying really hard to catch up. I'd like it if South Korea caught up to the idealization it puts forward in its dramas and variety shows--which is how it's going.
Also has their first female president. =P Did it faster than the US... (I mean in sheer amount of presidents)
China I hear mixed reports on, but the dramas tend to be more fairytalish. (With a few exceptions), and I don't see any politcal change coming from the dramas or changing the state. (Some of my Chinese friends expressed displeasure in this and the sad endings. =P I asked and by and large everyone said, "I don't know any classic tales with happy endings." When I said about putting on a sad ending, I heard, "Please don't. I'm sick of sad endings." <-- joke, clearly.)
The thing is that I haven't seen anyone outside of Mainstream Chinese Han in any drama being portrayed except, maybe in historical dramas.
Taiwanese dramas are better anyway. (Mainland Chinese say that too. ^.~)
What surprised me, though is the level of cultural exchange in East Asia... which astonishes me. Subtitles in broad daylight of various movies and so on. Hawaii, CA, and maybe Washington State might get that, but for Hong Kong, Japan and Korea, I spotted subtitles on foreign media, and not all of it from the US either. Makes me wonder about the future of these countries...