Off limits locations....

profen4 · Dec 2, 2012

Okay, I'm trying to think of places in a city that would be near impossible to get to, or inside of, for a private citizen with no contacts, and with no means of bribery. i.e. they must break in. I'm trying to think outside the box.

Are there places that anyone can think of that are generally impossible for average people to get to? These can vague places, like: public works buildings or governor residences . . . etc. Or they can be very specific places, like location "A" in such-and-such a city. i.e. Top of the Washington monument, or maybe a room somewhere in the library of congress.

It can be places in ANY city, anywhere on the world. i.e. if you live somewhere/traveled somewhere and are aware of any building, or area of a city that is off limits to just your regular joe, that's what I'm looking for. It can be anything. I would like quite a few from USA or Canada, if possible.

To give you an idea, I thought about luggage sorting areas in airports, or the tops of very high buildings, but those aren't original enough. I thought about army bases, or embassy's, but i don't know where on a base might be very off limits.
do lot do lot do so sinh ban buon quan ao ban buon quan ao chup anh cho be
It can even be ruins.

Thanks

Manon · Dec 2, 2012

Private family tombs
Secret services [anything]
Airplanes
Backstage at a concert
eeeeehhhh. that's what I got for now.

Interesting to think about though!

Myrealana · Dec 2, 2012

The Mint comes immediately to mind.

You know, the place where they make money...

waylander · Dec 2, 2012

Server rooms at any company that has their own.
Areas around mains electricity supply transformers.
Sewers.

crunchyblanket · Dec 2, 2012

Unused underground stations and tunnels.

profen4 · Dec 2, 2012

crunchyblanket said:
Unused underground stations and tunnels.

can you think of any specific examples? I'm wondering if such places would be bricked off, or if they'd have security . . .
do lot nam narsis do boi cao cap xe day doi cao cap cho be chan vay cong so thoi trang cong so gia re chup anh cho be

Sarpedon · Dec 2, 2012

Any mechanical room in any building. Elevator equipment rooms. Electrical rooms. Pipe chase access closets. (not really a room, but you can set up a dead drop there or something)

As far as ruins, old wells on farms are great. They are often invisible unless you know they are there.

I've been in all kinds of forbidden rooms.

crunchyblanket · Dec 2, 2012

profen4 said:
can you think of any specific examples? I'm wondering if such places would be bricked off, or if they'd have security . . .

I actually have a book on this subject because I'm a massive saddo. The old British Museum station is a good example:

British Museum station was subsequently re-used up to the 1960s as a military administrative office and emergency command post, but it is now wholly disused. It can no longer be accessed from the surface and the surface building was demolished in 1989. The platforms have now been removed, thus lowering the entire tunnel floor to track level. This portion of the eastbound tunnel is now used by engineers to store sleepers and other parts of track, which can be seen from passing trains.

This site is a good resource.

I like the old North End station, myself. It was never actually opened, but if it had been it would have been the deepest underground station in London. It's currently used as an emergency exit, so I'd imagine it is readily accessible.

fireluxlou · Dec 2, 2012

North Korea.

espresso5 · Dec 2, 2012

-the vaults of any big bank
-prisons
-police evidence rooms
-if it's a coastal city with a big marina, getting onto a specific ship (or at least the engine room or bridge) might be difficult
-R&D labs at biotech or tech companies could have several layers of security
-airport control tower
-inventory warehouses of factories that produce guns or weapons

crunchyblanket · Dec 2, 2012

Hospital mortuaries.

shadowwalker · Dec 2, 2012

Private businesses like IBM - employees/contractors had to badge in; guests had to have prior approval, sign in with security, and have an escort. People who let others 'piggy-back' (follow them in without badging in) could be fired. After 9/11, one couldn't even get into the parking lot (including visitor's center) without checking in at the gate.

Siri Kirpal · Dec 2, 2012

Sat Nam! (Literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

Prisons. I used to teach at a penitentiary; I told my students it was harder to get in than to get out.

Blessings,

Siri Kirpal

King Neptune · Dec 2, 2012

I have been in a few prisons, and it wasn't hard, because eomeone brought me through. Bank vaults are als easy to get into, but there isn't anything laying around, so it isn't worth the trouble.

The place where I had trouble, even though I was completely authorized, was a company that made fuel-rods for nuclear reactors. It seemed that the security people were the only ones who took security seriously there.

profen4 · Dec 2, 2012

King Neptune said:
I have been in a few prisons, and it wasn't hard, because eomeone brought me through. Bank vaults are als easy to get into, but there isn't anything laying around, so it isn't worth the trouble.

The place where I had trouble, even though I was completely authorized, was a company that made fuel-rods for nuclear reactors. It seemed that the security people were the only ones who took security seriously there.

Funny you should mention that. To get a few more ideas I was trying to come up with locations where a terrorist, or foreign intelligence operative would want to gain access to. I wasn't coming up with much ...:/ quan lot rbi do boi dep xe day doi ao so mi nu thoi trang cong so chup anh cho be

amschilling · Dec 2, 2012

Water treatment plants, perhaps, for the terrorist angle. Once you get past the treatment stages, if you poison the water....

In NYC, getting into the abandoned tunnels and subway stations is pretty easy. Just walk along the service walkway where you want to go. Of course it stinks, and there are a number of homeless cities down there, but... *shrug* The trick is getting into the tunnel without someone from the MTA seeing you.

Power plants would be a big target. Or any government building. Both of those would be more difficult to access. At least in theory.

King Neptune · Dec 2, 2012

profen4 said:
Funny you should mention that. To get a few more ideas I was trying to come up with locations where a terrorist, or foreign intelligence operative would want to gain access to. I wasn't coming up with much ...:/

There aren't many fuel-rod assembly plants, so you would have to make one up, but no one knows where they are, so you can get away with it. There isn't much that a terrorist could do in a fuel-rod plant, because there are just machines for making the pieces and stores of fuel-grade unranium, not weapons grade. I suppose that some ignorant terrorist could collect a bunch of the fuel and try to make a bomb. The result would be almost humorist; worst case would be like the pwoer plant in Japan; best case would be a pile of fuel-rods with blue light around it. Most likely would be Something a little short of the Japan accident.

If you are looking for targets for terrorists, then you might consider hydro-electric plants inside dams. Those are reasonably common where there are rivers, but they don't look important, until one thinks about it. It isn't terribly difficult to get in and out, but it would be difficult to get enough of something in to do some damage.

If you are looking for places where terrorist could do damage, then parts of the electric grid are excellent targets, and there are so many pieces that are essential, that the security is mediocre in all but the most notable places, even though the other sections are equally vulnerable.

profen4 · Dec 2, 2012

King Neptune said:
There aren't many fuel-rod assembly plants, so you would have to make one up, but no one knows where they are, so you can get away with it. There isn't much that a terrorist could do in a fuel-rod plant, because there are just machines for making the pieces and stores of fuel-grade unranium, not weapons grade. I suppose that some ignorant terrorist could collect a bunch of the fuel and try to make a bomb. The result would be almost humorist; worst case would be like the pwoer plant in Japan; best case would be a pile of fuel-rods with blue light around it. Most likely would be Something a little short of the Japan accident.

If you are looking for targets for terrorists, then you might consider hydro-electric plants inside dams. Those are reasonably common where there are rivers, but they don't look important, until one thinks about it. It isn't terribly difficult to get in and out, but it would be difficult to get enough of something in to do some damage.

If you are looking for places where terrorist could do damage, then parts of the electric grid are excellent targets, and there are so many pieces that are essential, that the security is mediocre in all but the most notable places, even though the other sections are equally vulnerable.

No terrorists in this book. I was only thinking that a place a terrorist might want to get to would be a place highly difficult to enter.

The locations I'm looking for don't need to be strategic. To give you an idea, a couple of the ones I'm going to use for sure: A sealed/guarded mausoleum or crypt of some kind (looking for a good one now), the no-longer used subway stations, the server rooms, perhaps the rooftops of FBI, CIA, CSIS buildings. Somewhere in a prison (rooftop?). Perhaps also a few of the ruins I've been to where the security was stiff, stopping people from climbing . . . i.e. Pyramids in Egypt and Mexico, ruins in Cambodia . . . etc.

I really like all these ideas, and I need a pretty big list, so I hope people keep throwing out suggestions!
ao nguc do boi nam xe day doi cao cap cho be ao so mi cong so ban buon quan ao cac loai chup anh da ngoai o ha noi
Thanks guys.

jaksen · Dec 2, 2012

Secure rooms in defense company facilities where defensive/offensive weaponry is being designed. Sometimes you need several layers of clearance, plus have to strip down, put on a special suit, etc. to get inside. Then you go through several checkpoints.

Another one, various secure rooms at the Vatican.

Palaces (in countries where there is still royalty)

Area 51

Buffysquirrel · Dec 2, 2012

The White House situation room?

lastlittlebird · Dec 2, 2012

There were tombs in Timbuktu which were considered completely off limits and had not been entered in hundreds of years... unfortunately, many of them are currently being destroyed by the rebels that just took over the city, so I'm not sure which are still there.
Timbuktu was difficult enough to reach before they took over, I'd say for an average person now it would be fairly impossible, let alone getting close to those tombs.

I was in Budapest recently and we read all about how the tunnels under the city there were closed off as a tourist attraction after a police raid (it wasn't clear why the police raided it). They've reopened now, but getting into those, or any other tunnels (which seem to be common in Europe) if they were closed for any reason would be difficult.

Another idea is the tunnels and private areas of Disney World (and other Disney attractions). There's a private clubhouse there (Club 33) which might not have its own private guards, but presumably security staff from the whole park would rush towards it if someone was trying to break in. And there are tunnels under the parks which probably have more than a few secure places they don't want random people entering.

benbradley · Dec 2, 2012

Myrealana said:
The Mint comes immediately to mind.

You know, the place where they make money...

Fort Knox is perhaps the most infamous place "you can't get into."

WeaselFire · Dec 2, 2012

Bank vaults are easier to get into than the money counting rooms. All US facilities which affect utilities, water, sewer, electric, gas, etc are now off limits per Homeland Security. Courthouses/rooms can be similar. Most county and municipal administration or elected official buildings are now guarded.

It's easy to get into many restricted sites with a hard hat and a clip board...

Jeff

profen4 · Dec 3, 2012

Thanks a lot, guys! These are all so great. My mind's buzzing with fresh ideas. Like I said, please keep the ideas coming since I need a pretty exhaustive list, but what you've all given me so far is invaluable! Cheers ao chip do boi cao cap xe day doi vay lien cong so nu ban buon chup anh quang cao

Siri Kirpal · Dec 3, 2012

Sat Nam! (literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

Oh, and there's the place in Ethiopia where the Ark of the Covenant is supposedly stored.

Blessings,

Siri Kirpal

Off limits locations....

profen4

Manon

Myrealana

I aim to misbehave

waylander

Who's going for a beer?

crunchyblanket

the Juggernaut of Imperfection

profen4

Sarpedon

crunchyblanket

the Juggernaut of Imperfection

fireluxlou

espresso5

crunchyblanket

the Juggernaut of Imperfection

shadowwalker

empty-nester!

Siri Kirpal

Swan in Process

King Neptune

profen4

amschilling

King Neptune

profen4

jaksen

Caped Codder

Buffysquirrel

lastlittlebird

avem narrans

benbradley

It's a doggy dog world

WeaselFire

Benefactor Member

profen4

Siri Kirpal

Swan in Process