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childeroland
10-26-2012, 05:00 AM
Does anyone know of any books or other resources with accounts of near death experiences without the usual spiritual/religious aspects? Just the physical sensations of dying, without the "Going into the Light" stuff. Thanks.

blacbird
10-26-2012, 11:13 AM
No books, but I did see Avatar in a big-screen theater.

caw

L.Blake
10-26-2012, 04:09 PM
PM'd you.

Purple Rose
10-26-2012, 04:21 PM
My memoir. There was nothing. I was medicated and was suffocating. My husband said I had maybe a minute or two left. Then I woke up in hospital. No angels at any point :-( Nothing.

King Neptune
10-26-2012, 06:32 PM
I have seen somehting about drowning that did not include angels, but the people were disappointed to be saved.

The reason why there is "going into the light" and such is that it is part of what actually happens.

Siri Kirpal
10-26-2012, 09:47 PM
Sat Nam! (Literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

What King Neptune said. Angels aren't always part of the deal, but "going into the light" usually is. And yes, I have personal experience.

The physical sensations will depend on the mode of death.

Blessings,

Siri Kirpal

CrastersBabies
10-27-2012, 01:51 AM
There are some negative NDE experiences out there. Some religious-based (e.g. going to hell), others not religious. Here is a good place to start: http://iands.org/about-ndes/distressing-ndes.html

The religious ones I take with a grain of salt as the negative ones seem to be geared toward conversion. "I died, went to hell, came back and now I'm a changed person" type stuff. Could be valid, but my spidey sense goes off on some.

jaksen
10-27-2012, 05:16 PM
I was reading an excellent one by a medical doctor until he suddenly met a beautiful, brown-haired woman with flowing locks and brilliant eyes and I felt I was in the middle of a badly-written romance.

Each time I've been put under for surgery I thought I had died - but then I woke up. Weird sensation indeed, but no light, no angels and no gorgeous women (or men) hovering over me with trembling lips and glistening hair.

Quentin Nokov
10-27-2012, 09:31 PM
What type of near-death experience are we looking at here? Car accident, drowning, gunshot wound. Can you be a little more specific?

I'm religious, but many times I like to go down scientific routes not just supernatural ones because some people go crazy in their, 'I saw Satan, he was going to bind me with shackles but Christ and an army of angels fought him back and gave me my life back." Stuff like that <.< Just a little over the top. Lol.

Some believe that light/sensations/auditory changes are hallucinations or chemical changes in the brain and sensory organs prior to death.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/extrasensory-perceptions/near-death-experience4.htm

Rabe
11-03-2012, 02:17 PM
I have seen somehting about drowning that did not include angels, but the people were disappointed to be saved.

The reason why there is "going into the light" and such is that it is part of what actually happens.

In my case I didn't have a 'going into the light' bit. For me it was like sinking into an ocean of black.

Nor did I have any visions of angels or anything else of religious significance. There may have been an OBE but that is still debated and questionable.

Rabe...

wheelwriter
11-04-2012, 01:09 AM
A patient of mine was unresponsive for about two hours. They called to him, shook him, rubbed his sternum, and manually opened his eyelids and he did not stir. His vital signs were stable, but it was like he was in a crazy-deep sleep. When he finally began responding again, he said he felt numb while he was out. He could hear voices but they were far away. At one point he wanted to laugh, because he knew something was funny, but he couldn't. Initially he was groggy and confused, then seemed to be back to his baseline after a few minutes.

I'm not sure if that is near-death enough for what you are looking for, but he experienced no white light or angels. He felt ready to die, so he was disappointed to be back.

childeroland
11-07-2012, 09:49 AM
Thanks for the links and information, guys.

If I may ask -- did you all (and your patient, wheelwriter) experience the sensation in present-time, during the process, or mostly remember the feeling -- or lack of feeling -- afterwards?

Siri Kirpal
11-07-2012, 10:43 PM
Sat Nam! (Literally "Truth Name"--a Sikh greeting)

Both my fil and mil had NDE, but they're both gone now. I think though that they said the light they were experiencing kept them from feeling the pain. That's the general gist anyway. Same with me.

Blessings,

Siri Kirpal

childeroland
11-08-2012, 04:06 AM
Thank you, Siri.

wheelwriter
11-08-2012, 05:48 AM
Thanks for the links and information, guys.

If I may ask -- did you all (and your patient, wheelwriter) experience the sensation in present-time, during the process, or mostly remember the feeling -- or lack of feeling -- afterwards?

I think my patient's experience was in present time. He wanted to laugh but couldn't. I'm not positive if his awareness of it all was during or directly after.

James D. Macdonald
11-08-2012, 06:36 AM
The book you're looking for is How We Die by Sherwin B. Nuland. (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/how-we-die-sherwin-b-nuland/1111352095)

childeroland
11-08-2012, 06:48 AM
Thanks, wheelwriter, James. Looking forward to reading Nuland.

benbradley
11-08-2012, 07:06 AM
"Dying To Live" is a skeptical look at NDEs:
http://www.amazon.com/Dying-Live-Experiences-Susan-Blackmore/dp/0879758708

I suspect most everything else out there is fairly solid in having religious or spiritual interpretations of NDEs. Raymond Moody was the seminal researcher in the field:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Moody
And there's more resources to be found here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience

childeroland
11-09-2012, 03:48 AM
Moody looks extremely informative, as do Kerry Packer's story and Blackmore.

CrastersBabies
11-13-2012, 06:41 AM
http://iands.org/about-ndes/common-aftereffects.html

Some interesting info on body/mental issues post NDE

childeroland
11-13-2012, 08:24 AM
I'll need that too for my character. Thanks, CrasterBabies.

CrastersBabies
11-13-2012, 08:36 AM
Pretty interesting stuff. My mother had a NDE when her heart stopped (she was diagnosed with guillain barre). To this day, she cannot wear watches that need a battery. The watch will stop working within a day. Very strange.

Good luck with your research! Sounds interesting. :)