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Eddyz Aquila
10-06-2012, 05:18 PM
26th of October. Bond. James Bond.

:D

Who's up to see it? With James Bond Day only yesterday, and with Adele's Skyfall theme immediately jumping to number one on the iTunes list, I'm pretty sure this will become a serious Bond hit.

K. Taylor
10-06-2012, 08:07 PM
November in the US.

Stiger05
10-06-2012, 09:37 PM
Yes, November 9th. I. Can't. Wait. It looks so good, and the theme is the best one they've had in a while. I have been stoked for this since I first heard of.

<--- Serious James Bond fan.

jdwhitelaw
10-07-2012, 11:04 AM
Utterly excitable, can't wait quite frankly.

So much so I did a review of the new title song by Adele (http://www.jdwhitelaw.blogspot.com) for those interested.

Any and all thoughts are welcome of course.

firedrake
10-07-2012, 11:33 AM
It's been a matter of perverse pride for me, for years, that I never watch Bond films. The last one I saw was 'Octopussy', it put me off watching another one, ever again.

Then one of the UK TV channels decided to show 'Casino Royale' and 'Quantum of Solace' two Friday nights running. There was nothing else on that I wanted to watch so I decided to give the new Bond a try.

Wow.

Daniel Craig is perfect for the part. He plays the jaded assassin so well. I am now completely hooked and may well break the habit of a lifetime and actually go and see it in the cinema when it's released.

Adele's song is the icing on the cake. I love it. It's a throwback to the old Bond tunes.

Eddyz Aquila
10-09-2012, 07:54 PM
I honestly think Daniel Craig is the best Bond, at least for me. He's the silent one, the jaded assassin as firedrake put it.

BenPanced
10-10-2012, 06:19 AM
http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/benpanced/570324/42020/42020_original.jpg

Hubba2.

I'm looking forward to this one, as well. Now if I can only get the music file to play on my iPod (there's been a slew of reports that the file on iTunes is effed somehow).

Seraph
10-10-2012, 06:49 PM
Never been a fan of his, feels too serious, too uptight in the role. There's something absurd about James Bond which I liked more in the goofy charm of Pierce Brosnan or Sean Connery who always seemed to know they were in a movie with submarine cars and midgets throwing hats.

Cyia
10-10-2012, 07:36 PM
Never been a fan of his, feels too serious, too uptight in the role.


Read a Bond novel - the man's a diagnosis short of being an official sociopath.

BenPanced
10-13-2012, 10:47 PM
*does pee-pee dance*

I FINALLY HAVE A FUNCTIONING COPY OF ADELE'S THEME FROM THE MOVIE!

*falls over*

Kitty27
10-14-2012, 02:48 AM
James Bond is crazy as cat shit.

But I LUH him! I am so here for his latest sociopathic fuckery. Naomie Harris is a definite plus and I eagerly await this movie.

Adele's theme for the movie= meh. I would have much preferred Iyeoka singing it.

Mr Flibble
11-07-2012, 04:11 PM
I was surprised there hadn't been more discussion of this until I saw it wasn't out in the US yet. *small gloat*

You have to see this film.

It wasn't perfect* but holy hell, what a ride with some great twists. I may be slightly nervous at Temple Tube station next time I'm there :D Craig was excellent, loved the new Q too, fantastically awful bad guy and even a couple of nice Bond-nerd gags.


*This bugged me - slightly spoilery so whited out: It's supposed to be an alias, dammit, not his real name.

JimmyB27
11-07-2012, 04:25 PM
It's been a matter of perverse pride for me, for years, that I never watch Bond films. The last one I saw was 'Octopussy', it put me off watching another one, ever again.
Well, there's your problem, Moore's Bond was awful - almost like a spoof of the real thing.

I'll have to wait until this comes out on DVD as I'm far too cheap to go to the cinema, unless LoveFilm decide to send me some free tickets again...

runningfree
11-09-2012, 10:47 AM
I WANT TO SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've never seen a Bond film in the theaters but I'm hoping to for this one. It took me a while to get used to Craig. When I first saw him, I wasn't entirely thrilled but I've warmed up to him.

I saw a preview for it the other day and immediately put dibs on a "girls' night out" with my mom and my sister so we can drool over the British gent in a tux on the big screen. *swoons* :P

DavidBrett
11-10-2012, 07:22 AM
Mr Flibble, I'm sure you'll find that's a popular fan theory, and not canonically true - his family name had been discussed before, as well as the family motto. Case in point, I doubt that theory holds any water ever since the Young Bond books were published and became official canon several years ago.

Besides, he's Commander James Bond - if you're really going to give your super secret spy a code name, make sure it's not in Her Majesty's Naval Records...?

As for the film - LOVED it. Saw it twice; it's the best of both worlds - the gritty realism of the Craig Bonds whilst also harking back to the classic formula. Brilliant stuff.

Dave

Her Dark Star
11-10-2012, 02:44 PM
Loved all of the individual elements, loved the homages to it's history, loved finding out what skyfall was and many other bits. All good. However I don't think it's actually as good as good as the last two, all the elements are there but it doesn't hang together all that well, the pacing seemed off in a lot of places. I think that they had a lot of ideas crammed in and not quite enough time to actually execute them all properly. The villain was cool though and the final sections of the film I loved, well worth seeing even if it's not perfect.

DavidBrett
11-10-2012, 10:36 PM
Really? I found it MUCH better than QoS; in fact, the slower pacing actually worked, giving it a more investigative feel, like the classic Connery adventures. In QoS you're literally being thrown right into the action that's resolving from CR, and the rest of the movie is hard to make coherent unless you've seen CR.

Dave

Corussa
11-10-2012, 10:53 PM
I thought it was excellent and much better than Quantum of Solace (which admittedly I started watching partway through when it was on TV recently, but it still didn't seem to have anything resembling a plot).

I think Daniel Craig does a great job (I thought he was fine in Casino Royale, but like him far more now).

There seemed to be good attention to characterisation, so that I had a good sense of even secondary characters and what they were like - rather than them being cardboard cutouts who come on to provide info then go away again.

I also liked that I wasn't able to guess what would happen to which characters - I worried needlessly for some, and didn't see other things coming, because it was all very well done.

And I so want to go and live around where the latter scenes were shot!

Torgo
11-10-2012, 11:03 PM
7/10

It's as good as Casino Royale. (Quantum of Solace gets 3/10. When you can't even remember who the villain was, it's not a good movie.) It has great performances but not-great writing; and in many ways it didn't really feel like James Bond. It felt like Brit Bourne, or something.

There's also the fact that we still seem to be in the setup phase of a reboot. Bond in the past has been a fully-formed character, not one in development. When they did 'Bond-man Begins' in Casino Royale, that was cool, because we hadn't done that before. But why are we still doing it two movies later?

Still, Silva is memorable, and Judi Dench gets to Dench it up as hard as she can, and there's the DB5; so 7/10. I hope they find a plot next time, though.

Mr Flibble
11-11-2012, 01:58 AM
Mr Flibble, I'm sure you'll find that's a popular fan theory, and not canonically true - his family name had been discussed before, as well as the family motto. Case in point, I doubt that theory holds any water ever since the Young Bond books were published and became official canon several years ago.

Besides, he's Commander James Bond - if you're really going to give your super secret spy a code name, make sure it's not in Her Majesty's Naval Records...?

You might give him a false name/title so his real one won't show? A code name? Same as 007 isn't always the same guy (I assume) Sometimes it pays for people to know who you are (well, know the name) and he uses other names as well when he needs to. I don't know about canon (maybe that it's his real name IS canon I have no idea), just thought it was kinda obvious that a spy wouldn't use his REAL name. Far too easy to dig up stuff to use on him for one thing. Easier to transfer stuff when Guy One gets a bullet in the head and you hand the name over to Guy Two, no faffing around, bingo.

If there were lots of bad guys I'd really pissed off and I had access to those resources, you bet I wouldn't use my real name*. I mean, spies give out real information? O.o

Like I say, no idea if it's really canon or not, but it jarred me cos it seemed a bit of a silly thing to do for a spy. I mean, Jason Bourne isn't really Jason Bourne.


*I'd be Desdemona Wendigo, or sometimes Edith Smith when I wanted to blend in. :)


It felt like Brit Bourne, or something. It did a tad, but I loved those books/movies so...

Stiger05
11-11-2012, 05:27 AM
I saw it yesterday and LOVED it. It felt like Bond, but wasn't formulaic. The plot totally surprised me and didn't go in the direction I thought it would (save the girl, go on the run, infiltrate the villain's HQ, take him down and engage in "celebration" with the girl afterward).

The homages were great. I enjoyed getting to know Bond better, where he came from, what makes him who he is. I like the "Bond Begins" angle. It's not exactly something they could start and just drop after the first movie. I think from here out it will be business as usual, though.

I can't wait to see more. The new M, the new Q, Bond back as Bond. Eagerly awaiting the next installment.

DavidBrett
11-11-2012, 07:29 AM
Well, MGM's new deal post-liquidation/bankruptcy is a Bond movie every two years, like it used to be. And Craig has signed-on for at least two more.

So... Bond will return in 2014.

PrincessofPersia
11-11-2012, 08:05 AM
I hadn't seen a DC Bond film until Skyfall because he just seemed like he was trying too hard in the trailers. After seeing Skyfall, I am definitely going back and watching CR and QoS. He is the best Bond since Connery, IMHO.

Also, the film was great. The best Bond film so far, IMHO. Also, Adele's theme was great. Very much a throwback to the old films, I thought, and a very good one. She's got the perfect voice for it.

Cyia
11-11-2012, 08:17 AM
Same as 007 isn't always the same guy (I assume)


The double-0 is a designation earned by two sanctioned kills, hence the opening scene of Casino Royale. The "7" is his code name. In correspondence or records, he'd be on record as 0-0-7, not Bond, but in person, he uses his name. The only real overlap comes from M, Money-penny, and Q who would have occasion to know an agent's true identity.

Mr Flibble
11-11-2012, 04:31 PM
What I mean is, I assume that once a 007 got pensioned off/died, then that code would be used again. Or Bond would be 00158 or something. And with that, I thought the code name would be attached to it.

I dunnow, it being his real name (and that he uses it on ops) kinda makes me think it's made an oxymoron of the term 'Secret Service' or indeed 'Intelligence'.

Not that it's something I'd stop watching for - it just jarred me at the time, because I never thought for a second that a secret agent woudl use his real name on ops.

Torgo
11-11-2012, 04:43 PM
What I mean is, I assume that once a 007 got pensioned off/died, then that code would be used again. Or Bond would be 00158 or something. And with that, I thought the code name would be attached to it.

I dunnow, it being his real name (and that he uses it on ops) kinda makes me think it's made an oxymoron of the term 'Secret Service' or indeed 'Intelligence'.

Not that it's something I'd stop watching for - it just jarred me at the time, because I never thought for a second that a secret agent woudl use his real name on ops.

The theory that Bond is as much of a codename as 007 has occurred to people before. It's a fun idea in the world of the films, at least.

Mr Flibble
11-11-2012, 05:47 PM
The theory that Bond is as much of a codename as 007 has occurred to people before. It's a fun idea in the world of the films, at least.


Oh I'm know it has - most of the people I know assume it to be so and my son and I weren't the only people talking about it on the way out - hence originally I whited it out as a spoiler. Makes more sense in the films perhaps? (new actors = new agent with code name. We join Daniel Craig as he starts off under the name etc). Perhaps when the first books were written, not so much (technology has changed the game a lot)

thekingsguard
11-13-2012, 07:40 AM
Loved every minute (http://www.korsgaardscommentary.com/2012/11/skyfall.html). Craig finally becomes the sort of Bond Fleming wrote about, and Bardem gave us the best villain since Blofeld. Top it off with superb themes and shoutouts to prior films, and a final scene that already has me looking forward to Bond 24, and I'm sold!

Amadan
11-13-2012, 07:54 AM
It was okay. Better than Quantum of Solace. But I fear the franchise may be creeping back toward the Moore/Brosnan* era of superheroics and cheese.

* No one remembers Timothy Dalton.

In the books, it's never made clear whether James Bond is the name he was born with, but it's the only one he ever uses.

MttStrn
11-13-2012, 09:12 AM
They actually rebooted the book franchise as well in a book called Carte Blanche by Jeffery Deaver. It was commissioned by the Fleming Publications and as far as I am aware, is new canon. In it, James Bond is his real name and there is significant backstory regarding the death of his parents. A very enjoyable book in my opinion.

JimmyB27
11-13-2012, 02:28 PM
I dunnow, it being his real name (and that he uses it on ops) kinda makes me think it's made an oxymoron of the term 'Secret Service' or indeed 'Intelligence'.
I think you're expecting a little too much realism from a Bond film. ;)

Mr Flibble
11-13-2012, 03:07 PM
Lol perhaps.

I can accept invisible cars and guns that only one person can fire (probably because I have no idea whether these could work or not!) I can accept him bonking everything that moves (I mean, come on) These things have verisimilitude, to me anyway.

However, I thought these people were supposed to be smart. It was an unrealism that jarred is all. Won't stop me watching the next one.

firedrake
11-25-2012, 10:28 PM
I saw it last night and I want to see it again.
Loved it. Typically action packed start, incredible stunts. Loved hearing the theme song at full blast on the cinema speakers.
Craig was brilliant. Yet again, I take back every bad word I said when I heard he'd been cast. He truly is the best Bond and this was, without a doubt, my favourite Bond film. Judi Dench was in top form.

Spoilerish: In a way, it was like the return of the Prodigal, but with two 'sons' Bond being the good one and Bardem's character being the bad one. and M being their 'mother'. That's how I saw it, anyway.

Gilroy Cullen
12-10-2012, 10:49 PM
So I finally got a chance to see this movie over the weekend. Since I wasn't the OMG Bond fan, I missed some connections.

But I love bringing out the classic Aston Martin. Can I have that car? Complete with guns? Please?

To me, this movie makes for a perfect end-of-series film. It leaves enough questions to make it worth the time, but it brings an end to an era...

Not sure I could take another round like this one...

thebloodfiend
12-11-2012, 12:04 AM
I saw this a few weeks ago. It wasn't bad. Not a fav of mine, and not enough to make me a Bond fan, but it didn't put me to sleep like Casino Royale. I was entertained. I guess it did its job.

Myrealana
12-11-2012, 12:58 AM
Loved it. (http://fatsamuraireviews.blogspot.com/2012/11/skyfall-guest-review.html)

I thought the third act droned on a bit, but I still loved it.