10 year old gives birth.

What's worse is that she's twice as old as the youngest known girl to have given birth Lina Medina was 5.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index...rson-to-ever-give-birth-was-only-5-years-old/

It's a scientific phenominon. Girls are hitting puberty younger and younger.

These stories always make me sad too. I believe the youngest girl reported to have given birth was 5 (also from a South American country, though I can't remember which right now). It's not a phenomenon restricted to other places though. The county seat of the county I went to school in (here in the US) there was a nine year old girl who gave birth successfully several years ago.

ETA: Heh, apparently I was typing slow. Incidentally, a wikipedia article with all the youngest mothers around the world. Yes, there are enough to make an entire wiki-article. *sigh*

Is this the same girl we did that other thread on? Or is it another one?

Cyia said:

What's worse is that she's twice as old as the youngest known girl to have given birth Lina Medina was 5.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index...rson-to-ever-give-birth-was-only-5-years-old/

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From the link:

It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read.

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Jesus Christ, let me go jump off of a building now. UGH.

What an incredibly sad thing. Too depressing. Missesdash's sentiments are about right.

Bookewyrme said:

ETA: Heh, apparently I was typing slow. Incidentally, a wikipedia article with all the youngest mothers around the world. Yes, there are enough to make an entire wiki-article. *sigh*

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That's disgusting and awful.

It is estimated that a woman born in South Africa has a greater chance of being raped than learning how to read.

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Ouch, my faith in humanity.

missesdash said:

Jesus Christ, let me go jump off of a building now. UGH.

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Yeah. Just...yeah.

Humanityfail.

Spy_on_the_Inside said:

It's a scientific phenominon. Girls are hitting puberty younger and younger.

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No, it's a criminal phenomenon involving pedophiles. Early-onset puberty doesn't equal instant pregnancy.

missesdash said:

From the link:



Jesus Christ, let me go jump off of a building now. UGH.

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I'm right behind you. We're so effed up, as a species. This shit's just got to stop.

muravyets said:

I'm right behind you. We're so effed up, as a species. This shit's just got to stop.

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If we had fucking evolved from bonobos instead of chimps, the abusive douchebags of the animal kingdom, then we'd probably be a lot happier.

Of course, things didn't shake out that way. And, more importantly...evolution isn't the be all end all. We're able to control our destiny.

We just need to keep working at that. Africa is poised to undergo a massive change. Wireless communication and the economic booms that that is bringing are going to transform the whole continent. Add to that the educational and social reform possibility...and I've got a hell of a lot of hope for Africa.

Frankly, similar statistics were true of most of the planet until fairly recently. Hell, our rape statistics are nothing to be proud of. We've all got a lot of work to do.

Cyia said:

No, it's a criminal phenomenon involving pedophiles. Early-onset puberty doesn't equal instant pregnancy.

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Thank you for staightening that out.

Zoombie said:

If we had fucking evolved from bonobos instead of chimps, the abusive douchebags of the animal kingdom, then we'd probably be a lot happier.

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Uh...we didn't evolve from chimps. We share a common ancestor with them, and probably with the bonobos, too. But no, we are not descended from chimps.

And aggression is a survival trait, like it or not. We wouldn't be here if we were passive pushovers. Yet, we are a cooperative species, which is something you can't say about the chimps.

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If we had fucking evolved from bonobos instead of chimps, the abusive douchebags of the animal kingdom, then we'd probably be a lot happier.

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We didn't descend from chimps - they get called that because they are among our closest living relatives.

We share about 98.7% of our DNA with chimps ... and we share about 98.7% of our DNA with bonobos. (Bonobos & common chimps share about 99.6% of their DNA with each other) Ref: here

It isn't surprising when you realise that a bonobo is a chimp as well :

• Bonobo = Pan Paniscus
• 'Common Chimp' = Pan Troglodytes

To quote the omniscient wiki:

DNA evidence suggests the bonobo and common chimpanzee species separated from each other less than one million years ago (similar in relation between Homo sapiens and Neanderthals).

The chimpanzee line split from the last common ancestor of the human line approximately six million years ago. Because no species other than Homo sapiens has survived from the human line of that branching, both chimpanzee species are the closest living relatives of humans. The chimpanzee's genus, Pan, diverged from the gorilla's genus about seven million years ago.

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defcon6000 said:

Uh...we didn't evolve from chimps. We share a common ancestor with them, and probably with the bonobos, too. But no, we are not descended from chimps.

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And Sex at Dawn offers some persuasive arguments that our belief (fascination?--fetish?) that we share more in common with Chimp troglodytes (like it) than Bonobos is simply an unfortunate result of our studying the freakin asshats of the primates first.

(Pardon the editorializing--stupid chimps!)

On another note, my dad had a granddaughter (through his second wife--no relation to me) who gave birth at twelve. She wasn't abused any more than the thirteen y o father. I believe she kept the child and raised it--probably as a sibling.

This is sad and upsetting considering it's child abuse and rape either way. A child that young cannot consent to sex. Actually a child cannot consent.

And Lina Medina's father was supposedly the father of her baby.

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This is sad and upsetting considering it's child abuse and rape either way. A child that young cannot consent to sex. Actually a child cannot consent.

And Lina Medina's father was supposedly the father of her baby.

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From a legal standpoint in the UK that would be correct. From a personal standpoint of a ten year old - well, I have recently taught some ten year old girls who looked like they were twenty and had more knowledge of sex than was good for them. The idea of being a 'child' was repugnant to some of them and they wanted to dress like an adult and be treated as one. At ten years old they had no concept of what childhood could be like. Playing was not with toys but make up. In a few years time it might even be, for some of them, sex toys. The boys in the same class were amusing - some of them were VERY interested in the girls and some of them were totally bemused by them. I found it infinitely sad.

Shakesbear said:

The idea of being a 'child' was repugnant to some of them and they wanted to dress like an adult and be treated as one. At ten years old they had no concept of what childhood could be like. .

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The fact that they have no concept of childhood, and deemed it a repugnant thing, actually shows how very immature they really are. The innocence of childhood is an important part of human development, a vital passage into adulthood; it's not something to look down on and reject, but a kind of home base, something that can help keep us intact all thorugh life.

If you have never known the love and caring and simple trust that a healthy child knows from and towards responsible adults, how can you, as an adult, ever be loving, caring, trusting yourself?

I feel very sad whenever I hear of children who have lost out on childhood. They may THINK they are adult, but they are not, they are merely stunted, a chunk of themselves cut off too too early.