Senate’s flood insurance program Stalls On Abortion Question

rugcat · Jun 26, 2012

WASHINGTON -- Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) moved this week to hold a noncontroversial flood insurance bill hostage until the Senate agrees that life begins at fertilization.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/26/rand-paul-fetal-personhood-flood-insurance_n_1628128.html

Why can't the Senate put aside partisanship and get anything done for the good of the country?

Maybe it's because one side of the partisan divide is fucking nuts.

Amusingly, I saw Marco Rubio on the Daily Show last night. When challenged about the GOP filibuster tactics, he explained, quite reasonably, that Harry Reid refused to let the GOP Senators put up amendments to bills, so they really had no choice.

What he failed to mention was the type of amendments the GOP introduces. You want flood insurance? Fine. Just admit that a fertilized egg is a person, and we're good..

Williebee · Jun 26, 2012

I don't know. Maybe Sen. Paul's god told him that he'd only let the non-believers lose their homes. ??

Zoombie · Jun 26, 2012

That's fucking stupid. Rand Paul should be fucking ashamed. This is a huge betrayal of pretty much everything a libertarian believes in, and if you try and say otherwise, I will...

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DO SOMETHING NON-VIOLENT BUT ANGRY!

clintl · Jun 26, 2012

rugcat said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/26/rand-paul-fetal-personhood-flood-insurance_n_1628128.html

Why can't the Senate put aside partisanship and get anything done for the good of the country?

Maybe it's because one side of the partisan divide is fucking nuts.

Amusingly, I saw Marco Rubio on the Daily Show last night. When challenged about the GOP filibuster tactics, he explained, quite reasonably, that Harry Reid refused to let the GOP Senators put up amendments to bills, so they really had no choice.

What he failed to mention was the type of amendments the GOP introduces. You want flood insurance? Fine. Just admit that a fertilized egg is a person, and we're good..

Rand Paul sure learned how to be a congressional slimeball quickly, didn't he?

muravyets · Jun 26, 2012

Williebee said:
I don't know. Maybe Sen. Paul's god told him that he'd only let the non-believers lose their homes. ??

Wasn't that how it worked the last time he flooded the world?

Williebee · Jun 26, 2012

muravyets said:
Wasn't that how it worked the last time he flooded the world?

Might have been. The dude is pretty old.

muravyets · Jun 26, 2012

Well, then, maybe Rand Paul thinks that if we all jump onto the bandwagon of fertilized egg persons, God will be conned into thinking we're all devout, and then our insurance will...um...be worthless because we won't get flooded...so the government...won't have to fund it after all? Yippee!

Or maybe he's just a partisan hack bastard.

Could be either one, I guess.

blacbird · Jun 26, 2012

Kentucky had a decent chance to elect a decent Senator last go-round, and decided on Rand Paul instead. Next time you get flooded, Paducah, remember this: You earned it.

caw

benbradley · Jun 26, 2012

Is this the same "uncontroversial" government insurance that John Stossel took advantage of for his beachfront property?

JoyceH · Jun 27, 2012

clintl said:
Rand Paul sure learned how to be a congressional slimeball quickly, didn't he?

You're assuming he had to learn and didn't already come that way?

RichardGarfinkle · Jun 27, 2012

Williebee said:
Might have been. The dude is pretty old.

Do you mean Ron Paul?
Rand is the Son not the Father.

Alessandra Kelley · Jun 27, 2012

Smilies cannot convey the depth of my disgust at this behavior.

Alpha Echo · Jun 27, 2012

Wow. He didn't even try to hide it. Don't politicians normally just bury the law they really want to pass in the middle of a law they don't really care about in hopes no one will read the fine print, so to speak?

Roger J Carlson · Jun 27, 2012

You know, the "everybody does it, but the other side is worse" trope is getting really old.

Williebee · Jun 27, 2012

RichardGarfinkle said:
Do you mean Ron Paul?
Rand is the Son not the Father.

Does that count when the result is more like cloning than breeding?

(Yeah, my bad.) *doh*

regdog · Jun 27, 2012

Rand Paul is an asshat.

William Haskins · Jun 27, 2012

one would think that reid would be more consistent:

"I'm told last night that one of our Republican senators wants to offer an amendment -- listen to this one -- wants to offer an amendment on when life begins," Reid said on the Senate floor Tuesday. "I am not going to put up with that on flood insurance. I can be condemned by outside sources; my friends can say, 'Let them have a vote on it.' There will not be a vote on that on flood insurance. We'll either do flood insurance with the amendments that deal with flood insurance, or we won't do it..."

Reid has allowed Republicans to attach unrelated amendments to other important bills in the past few months. Most notably, he let the Senate vote on a contraception-related amendment, proposed by Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), to a transportation bill.

so, yeah... either hold a strong line requiring amendments to be directly related to the meat of the bill, or else you roll out a welcome mat for this kind of idiocy.

rugcat · Jun 27, 2012

Roger J Carlson said:
You know, the "everybody does it, but the other side is worse" trope is getting really old.

Actually, what's getting old is the "both sides are really the same" trope.

In case I wasn't clear, I'm not saying the GOP is worse. I'm saying there is something fundamentally wrong with what they've become and that they've been taken over by extremist right wingers whose agenda is implacable and who as individuals, are profoundly disturbed.

clintl · Jun 27, 2012

Nobody here that I can recall defends Harry Reid. At least not often.

Zoombie · Jun 27, 2012

The GOP are to conservatives the same way a chemical fire that sprays acid that creates tiny scorpions that sting you constantly is similar to a comforting candle flame.

It's spectacular to watch, but OH GOD IT'S IN MY EYES!

Except in this case, "eyes" means "freedom."

rwam · Jun 27, 2012

Roger J Carlson said:
You know, the "everybody does it, but the other side is worse" trope is getting really old.

Yup.

benbradley · Jun 27, 2012

Alpha Echo said:
Wow. He didn't even try to hide it. Don't politicians normally just bury the law they really want to pass in the middle of a law they don't really care about in hopes no one will read the fine print, so to speak?

Perhaps he's an "honest" politician.

Roger J Carlson · Jun 27, 2012

rugcat said:
Actually, what's getting old is the "both sides are really the same" trope.

In case I wasn't clear, I'm not saying the GOP is worse. I'm saying there is something fundamentally wrong with what they've become and that they've been taken over by extremist right wingers whose agenda is implacable and who as individuals, are profoundly disturbed.

Oh. Right. I'm not sure how I could have believed that:

rugcat said:
Maybe it's because one side of the partisan divide is fucking nuts.

meant anything else.

muravyets · Jun 27, 2012

Roger J Carlson said:
You know, the "everybody does it, but the other side is worse" trope is getting really old.

rugcat said:
Actually, what's getting old is the "both sides are really the same" trope.

In case I wasn't clear, I'm not saying the GOP is worse. I'm saying there is something fundamentally wrong with what they've become and that they've been taken over by extremist right wingers whose agenda is implacable and who as individuals, are profoundly disturbed.

In addition to which, not only did no one here say the GOP is worse, we also didn't say everybody does it.

Bartholomew · Jun 27, 2012

Zoombie said:
That's fucking stupid. Rand Paul should be fucking ashamed. This is a huge betrayal of pretty much everything a libertarian believes in, and if you try and say otherwise, I will...

...

DO SOMETHING NON-VIOLENT BUT ANGRY!

Bake sale, but yell at everyone who doesn't buy anything.

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