Manhunt for the Mad Padder

Xelebes · Jun 16, 2012

So I typically don't post on current topics of the city, but this one got me all caught up. What is up is that one money guard shot up four other money guards, killing three and critically injuring the other, while stocking up cash machines at the Hub Mall, a student residence at the University of Alberta. He fled with the armoured car, raced to the company HQ and grabbed his car, fled home to pick up his mother's car and. . . there the trail goes cold.

Anyways, I was out shopping in the City Centre Mall today and the police stormed in and the shops all shuttered like a western movie. False alarm, fortunately/unfortunately (fortunate that I wasn't there and got to avoid a shootout, unfortunate that the man wasn't captured or killed.)

Looks like it was a fight with his mother that triggered this all. Yeesh.

CBC News

Opty · Jun 16, 2012

Baumgartner is traditionally a German surname, is it not? So why the (sometimes) Irish slur in the thread title?

Anyway, hope they catch the guy soon.

Xelebes · Jun 16, 2012

Paddy is in reference to a paddywagon (padlocked-wagon.)

Opty · Jun 16, 2012

Xelebes said:
Paddy is in reference to a paddywagon (padlocked-wagon.)

You might wanna google that.

The "paddy" in "paddy wagon" refers to the Irishmen ("Paddy," which is both a nickname and a slur) that were arrested and put in it, not a "padlock." It arguably dates back to the New York Draft riots, but that's debatable.

Xelebes · Jun 16, 2012

Opty said:
LOL. You might wanna google that.

The "paddy" in "paddy wagon" refers to the Irishmen ("Paddy," which is both a nickname and a slur) that were arrested and put in it, not a "padlock." It arguably dates back to the New York Draft riots, but that's debatable.

That etymology is contested, sir.

Opty · Jun 16, 2012

Xelebes said:
That etymology is contested, sir.

Well, not in my family and not in any serious intellectual/academic circles that I'm aware of, it's not.

Whether the term "paddy" refers to Irish policemen or Irish prisoners is the debate I've usually seen. That the "paddy" in "paddy wagon" refers to the Irish is not something I've ever seen seriously contested.

I will admit, though, that this is the first time in my life I've ever seen anyone claim it refers to a "padlock."

Xelebes · Jun 16, 2012

And this is the first time I've ever seen it refer to Irishmen. Interesting.

Canadian Irish derogatory slang is "Patsy" and "Fitz."

Alessandra Kelley · Jun 16, 2012

That was also the etymology I was aware of. I have never heard the "padlock" story.

"Paddy" is an old, old word for an Irish man. It dates to 1780, in English.

I had hoped you were using some sort of regional slang I didn't know.

Couldn't you just say "Hunt for the Mad Money Guard"? Or something?

Opty · Jun 16, 2012

Well, it's originally an American term, so perhaps the actual meaning isn't well-known in Canada?

*shrug*

I know you didn't mean any insult by it, so I'm not offended or anything. Just wanted to make you aware of the history of the term.

Back to the OP, I hope they catch the guy soon.

Xelebes · Jun 16, 2012

Changed the title to "Padder". Keeping with reference to the padlock.

Vince524 · Jun 16, 2012

What was the original title?

Xelebes · Jun 16, 2012

Vince524 said:
What was the original title?

"Paddy" → "Padder"

Vince524 · Jun 16, 2012

Not sure how Paddy relates to the story, but here's the real one.

frimble3 · Jun 16, 2012

Xelebes said:
And this is the first time I've ever seen it refer to Irishmen. Interesting.

Canadian Irish derogatory slang is "Patsy" and "Fitz."

I'm familiar with 'Paddy', 'Patsy' and 'Mick', and never heard 'Fitz' as a nickname for 'Irish'.
And, I've always heard that the 'Paddy' in 'paddywagon' was a reference to the Irish, usually as a cargo of drunken Irishmen, sometimes as the Irish policemen manning it.
Maybe it's regional?

Anyway, I hope they get this guy, and quickly. Shooting your own co-workers, who trusted you with their lives in a dangerous business, is even lower than regular bank-robbery.

Alessandra Kelley · Jun 16, 2012

frimble3 said:
I'm familiar with 'Paddy', 'Patsy' and 'Mick', and never heard 'Fitz' as a nickname for 'Irish'.
And, I've always heard that the 'Paddy' in 'paddywagon' was a reference to the Irish, usually as a cargo of drunken Irishmen, sometimes as the Irish policemen manning it.
Maybe it's regional?

Anyway, I hope they get this guy, and quickly. Shooting your own co-workers, who trusted you with their lives in a dangerous business, is even lower than regular bank-robbery.

Thank you for getting us off that derail.

Yes, it's horrible. It's a betrayal of the trust and responsibility to one's co-workers and one's job.

Xelebes · Jun 16, 2012

He was caught at the Abbotsford-Linden Border Crossing.

Edmonton Journal

AncientEagle · Jun 16, 2012

Hope they padlocked him somewhere and try him soon.

frimble3 · Jun 16, 2012

Xelebes said:
He was caught at the Abbotsford-Linden Border Crossing.

Edmonton Journal

Thanks for the update and link, I haven't seen the news tonight.
And a big Yay! and thanks to the Lynden Border Patrol/Customs Agency who pulled out all the stops to get him. Police, Army and a fire-truck. I guess they figured that if he'd shot his co-workers, he might go out shooting, and that truck crossing is busy on the weekends, lots of potential casualties.

Oh, what the heck: :hooray:

for the Border authorities, on behalf of all those people who can go to sleep tonight knowing that this particular fugitive isn't going to show up in their lives tomorrow.
I have family in northern Alberta, honestly, I hadn't even considered that he'd come all this way, instead of straight down to the States. Maybe he thought we wouldn't have heard?

Xelebes · Jun 17, 2012

There is growing attention to the high hiring turnover rates within the armoured car company. Two of the victims and the culprit were rookies.

Wages offered are 15.00 dollars an hour (minimum wage is 9.40 dollars an hour) as per this job ad.

Manhunt for the Mad Padder

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui

Opty

Xelebes

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Opty

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui

Opty

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui

Alessandra Kelley

Sophipygian

Opty

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui

Vince524

Are you gonna finish that bacon?

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui

Vince524

Are you gonna finish that bacon?

frimble3

Heckuva good sport

Alessandra Kelley

Sophipygian

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui

AncientEagle

Old kid, no need to be gentle.

frimble3

Heckuva good sport

Xelebes

Delerium ex Ennui