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John Life
06-04-2012, 09:58 AM
who are Insearch Of the Universal Truth Publishing

Soccer Mom
06-04-2012, 10:13 AM
Do you have a link? ETA: found it. (http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpublisher.com/publishinginformation.html) That might be one of the most inept publisher sites I have ever seen. This is a vanity press. They want to separate you from your money.

To learn more about how publishing works, I recomend you read This is nothing like an official FAQ. (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58205)

Filigree
06-04-2012, 11:09 AM
And English does not appear to be their primary language, at least judging by the punctuation and grammatical errors on the site.

herdon
06-04-2012, 04:42 PM
Yeah, that's pretty bad. You almost have to try to pack in that many mistakes.

Mustafa
06-04-2012, 05:39 PM
Yeah, that site reads like it's created by a group of ESL students. Yikes!

triceretops
06-04-2012, 08:21 PM
Ooooph! Definitely one to avoid.

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Torgo
06-04-2012, 08:26 PM
I'm not sure there's a bargepole long enough in the whole world.

veinglory
06-04-2012, 08:57 PM
The anti-evolution book they promote as their bestseller states in the introduction: "Neither is this book written with any perfect skillfulness such as in proper sentence structuring, or even correct usage of grammar - as that it not its true purpose."

Typos and bad grammar in the service of the creator.

Sigh.

BenPanced
06-05-2012, 03:55 AM
Promoting books by mentioning they were sent in for nomination but didn't even make it that far.

Leaving the blanks open for an upcoming event.

On the FAQ page:

We, ISOTUT Publisher, is an Independent Book Publisher, as we are not part of a group of publishers that are owned by
any Large Publishing Houses (Company).:Shrug:

We publish all writing genre's and we do not turn away any of our writers or their books.So far, not good.

Those fees that we will quote you in our publishing proposal is for our services to edit / design your book.RUN. Fast and far.

Here's the menu:


Poetry: $1500.00
Short story (I'm assuming collections?): $1416.00
Novel: $2960.00
Graphic Novel: $2835.00

And as you scroll further down, they offer the standard level of bullshit on agents and other publishers for no charge.

G. Applejack
06-05-2012, 04:48 AM
I clicked on the About Us and was disappointed that Michael Kiser is not, in fact, a Nigerian prince.

thothguard51
06-05-2012, 05:52 AM
The problem with a company like this is someone will go with them...

Becca C.
06-05-2012, 10:02 AM
The anti-evolution book they promote as their bestseller states in the introduction: "[I]Neither is this book written with any perfect skillfulness such as in proper sentence structuring, or even correct usage of grammar - as that it not its true purpose."

I feel like I should throw that line into my query letter. Can only help my case, amirite? ;)

savagelilies
06-05-2012, 10:27 AM
I feel like I should throw that line into my query letter. Can only help my case, amirite? ;)

:roll:

Asha Leu
06-05-2012, 11:12 AM
The "Generating more book sales" (http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpublisher.com/GeneratingMoreBookSales.html) section of the website has to be seen to be beleived.

The actual advice is a number of How-To lists quite clearly plagiarized from other websites, and then at the end they add: (bolding mine)


As we have given you 40 ideas on how you the authors' can generate more book sale for your book(s) over the
last 3 months. We feel that we had given you all the tactics you need to create book sale on your end as a author
of your book.

Now the only thing to do is to head back to the top of this page and start doing these tactics over again. Also as
long as your book is published, continue to repeat these tactics over and over again on a daily and weekly basis.
Being a Author never stops. So why should you stop in doing the most important thing as a author, which is to get
out and talk, talk and talk about yourself and about your book.


We wish all of our authors the best with their books

Richard White
06-05-2012, 04:21 PM
Ya know, maybe I'm old-fashioned, but I thought the author's primary job was to write the next book. Promotion was a supplimental job to the publisher's marketing effort.

Course, I still like to work with pencil and paper sometimes and still use cursive. Guess I'm just not "with it" these days.

brianm
06-05-2012, 08:58 PM
Now the only thing to do is to head back to the top of this page and start doing these tactics over again. Also as
long as your book is published, buy our shampoo product and continue to repeat these tactics over and over again on a daily and weekly basis and soon you will have lovely, manageable hair.:e2shower:I'm gonna wash that publisher right out of my hair. I'm gonna wash that publisher right out of my hair and send him on his way!

Katrina S. Forest
06-05-2012, 09:43 PM
I feel like I should throw that line into my query letter. Can only help my case, amirite? ;)

Sadly, I don't think that line would be the worst the agent you sent it to had seen that week. Maybe that day, but not that week. :)

DeadlyAccurate
06-06-2012, 06:52 PM
The anti-evolution book they promote as their bestseller states in the introduction: "Neither is this book written with any perfect skillfulness such as in proper sentence structuring, or even correct usage of grammar - as that it not its true purpose."

Typos and bad grammar in the service of the creator.

Sigh.

I said something similar to the Olympic track team committee. "I'm not a fast runner, and I don't really like to run so I haven't practiced, but that's not why I should be on the track team. I want a trip to London." For some reason, they refused. It's almost like they expect their track runners to train and put effort into it before they get rewarded.

I guess I'll just go back to writing, since it obviously requires neither of those.

Filigree
06-07-2012, 03:47 AM
Very sad, when I consider the rigorous debate and rhetoric of Enlightenment philosophers and politicians. Once upon a time, being smart and well-read was considered a virtue.

AuthorSandraRains
03-14-2013, 10:38 PM
The "Generating more book sales" (http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpublisher.com/GeneratingMoreBookSales.html) section of the website has to be seen to be beleived.

The actual advice is a number of How-To lists quite clearly plagiarized from other websites, and then at the end they add: (bolding mine)

When did believed start being spelled beleived?

See how easy it is to make mistakes?

aliceshortcake
03-14-2013, 11:35 PM
They're onto us! I just popped over to the site and got a 404 message.

Oh, wait - false alarm. They can now be found here: http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpublisher.com/index.html

Sadly, their offer to publish your book for only $300 (without editing) expires tomorrow. Something tells me that this might be a safer option than paying $700 to have your book tinkered with by this merry band of functional illiterates. The company seems to have started out as a self-publishing venture by Michael Joseph Kiser, whose books will tell you everything you need to know about ISOTUT. And much, much more. :Jaw:

Theo81
03-14-2013, 11:49 PM
When did believed start being spelled beleived?

See how easy it is to make mistakes?

Hello Sandra, welcome to Absolute Write. I take it you are Sandra Rains DeBusk, author of several titles published by ISOTUT.

As you point out, it's easy to make mistakes. It's easier still to make typos.

We have one rule here: Respect Your Fellow Writer.


What can you tell us about ISOTUT? I'd particularly like to hear about the editing because I've had a quick look at a couple of your books and there are errors which shouldn't be there.


Also: Link to ISOTUT (http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpublisher.com/home) (as the above doesn't work)

Marian Perera
03-15-2013, 12:40 AM
This is amazing stuff. (http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpublisher.com/faq)


At Traditional Publisher, they own your copyright materials. Traditional Publisher have all the rights to your book in all formats, Paperback, Hardback, Audio Book, E-Book, and foreign language rights and Reprint rights. If another publisher shows interest in your book they do not have to let you know and conduct an agreement on your behalf. The same with if there is an interest in your book from including movie, screenplay, radio, TV.Makes you wonder why Stephen King and J. K. Rowling signed all their rights away to Traditional Publisher, doesn't it?


What Is A Independent Publisher / Independent Publishing?

This form of publishing your book is where you the author pays the publisher to perform the necessary process to prepare your book for publishing. Also some publishers will charge the writer other fees as well.So basically, you get screwed by the publisher no matter what you do. Traditional Publisher will take your copyright and Independent Publisher will take your money.


you still have to pay to publish your book through a publisher no matter who the publisher is. They all charge their authors a fee and that fee is based on what that publisher charges. Each publisher fee is different Oh no, wait. Now Traditional Publisher takes money too!

Maybe Traditional Publisher is Independent Publisher. Sort of a Zen thing.

aliceshortcake
03-15-2013, 01:09 AM
Sandra, I'm intrigued by the review printed at the beginning of your book Alien Harvest. It's credited to:


New York Times Bestseller
HOPE: In A Lost An Fallen World
By Only A. Guy

I'm quite sure this book was never on the New York Times Bestseller list:
http://www.amazon.com/HOPE-Lost-Fallen-World-ebook/dp/B008IJ4BLY

According to Only A. Guy's publisher, VIP Ink:


His books has been ranked within the top 10 at Amazon.
http://www.vipinkpublishing.com/authors/

And to echo Theo81's question, the editor of Alien Harvest is credited as Heidi Erikson. If this is typical of what ISOTUT's authors are paying for I have to say that they are being robbed - it doesn't begin to approach a professional standard.

Gravity
03-15-2013, 01:19 AM
I'm just glad the "all your base are belong to us" guys got a new gig.

Paul
03-15-2013, 05:12 AM
em, am I out of touch, or doesn't the title of this, (sigh) publisher, by itself, reveal all?

I mean, what is universal truth, if ye foller me?

LindaJeanne
03-15-2013, 05:38 AM
em, am I out of touch, or doesn't the title of this, (sigh) publisher, by itself, reveal all?

I mean, what is universal truth, if ye foller me?

Yeah, that was my thought as soon as I saw the name.

Who was it that said: "Seek the truth, and run like hell from anyone who claims to have found it"

Paul
03-15-2013, 05:40 AM
lol.
love that quote.

aliceshortcake
03-15-2013, 12:56 PM
Michael Kiser is yet another vanity press victim (or, to be precise, almost-victim) who decided to go into the business himself. After all, you don't need to know anything about real publishing to set yourself up as a publisher, do you?


In the summer of 1987 I started writing a book about my understanding of the spiritual growth of evolution. I had sent it off to a few publishers in 1988 and 1989. Only one was interested in the book. The publisher who that interested would have published my book if I paid them $9000 to publish it. At that time I did not have the money.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Battling-Guillain-Barre-Syndrome-Relapsing/dp/1615000003/ref=la_B00416DW6S_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1363336854&sr=1-1

(More stellar editing by Heidi Erikson.)

I don't know who that publisher was but it wasn't interested in his book - it was interested in his money and would have published virtually anything, just as ISOTUT never turns authors away if they can pay. The fact that Mr Kiser's company charges a fraction of that fee doesn't make it any more respectable.

SandraRainsDeBusk
08-11-2013, 10:06 PM
OMG! I am so so sorry for ever recommending this company!
Michael is an awful person. he is vindictive, spiteful, sneaky and rude. Last but not least he is my least favorite atheist. He mocks God and makes fun of anyone who believes in Him. Including me.

He rearranged and changed contracts that I signed with him. A total of 3. And then said "I don't care if you like it or not."
I complained about the lack of editing in my books and he threw a fit, telling me that I was too picky and out of line in complaining. He wanted me to beg my friends to buy my books, and I refused. I am ashamed of those books. The editing is Atrocious, and it looks like a 3 year old got a hold of them.

He now has canceled my contracts but says that he is keeping my books and selling them, and will keep the money from sales.


Hello Sandra, welcome to Absolute Write. I take it you are Sandra Rains DeBusk, author of several titles published by ISOTUT.

As you point out, it's easy to make mistakes. It's easier still to make typos.

We have one rule here: Respect Your Fellow Writer.


What can you tell us about ISOTUT? I'd particularly like to hear about the editing because I've had a quick look at a couple of your books and there are errors which shouldn't be there.




Also: Link to ISOTUT (http://www.insearchoftheuniversaltruthpublisher.com/home) (as the above doesn't work)

SandraRainsDeBusk
08-12-2013, 02:58 AM
Sandra, I'm intrigued by the review printed at the beginning of your book Alien Harvest. It's credited to:




I'm quite sure this book was never on the New York Times Bestseller list:
http://www.amazon.com/HOPE-Lost-Fallen-World-ebook/dp/B008IJ4BLY

According to Only A. Guy's publisher, VIP Ink:



And to echo Theo81's question, the editor of Alien Harvest is credited as Heidi Erikson. If this is typical of what ISOTUT's authors are paying for I have to say that they are being robbed - it doesn't begin to approach a professional standard.

My bad. Alien Harvest is actually a good story completely destroyed by ISOTUT Publisher Michael Kiser and his idiot editors. Oh My GOD! I will never live it down.
I am so sorry that I came across as a smart Alec before. I'm not, I was just extremely stressed about the NEW and Improved bad reviews on that book in particular.

SandraRainsDeBusk
08-12-2013, 03:01 AM
OMG! I am so so sorry for ever recommending this company!
Michael is an awful person. he is vindictive, spiteful, sneaky and rude. Last but not least he is my least favorite atheist. He mocks God and makes fun of anyone who believes in Him. Including me.

He rearranged and changed contracts that I signed with him. A total of 3. And then said "I don't care if you like it or not."
I complained about the lack of editing in my books and he threw a fit, telling me that I was too picky and out of line in complaining. He wanted me to beg my friends to buy my books, and I refused. I am ashamed of those books. The editing is Atrocious, and it looks like a 3 year old got a hold of them.

He now has canceled my contracts but says that he is keeping my books and selling them, and will keep the money from sales.

I do respect my fellow writers. I am so sorry if I seemed not to. I KNOW how hard it is to write a complete story and then have some lame half baked pit stop like Michael get a hold of your work. It's terrible.

nkkingston
08-12-2013, 11:34 AM
Welcome back :) Admitting someone pulled the wool over your eyes is one of the hardest things to do. When you're in the first flush of an acceptance you don't want people questioning it, criticising it, but once you've realised their questions have merit coming back to admit it takes some real humility.

If he's cancelled your contracts but is still selling your books, you can send DMCA notices to the sellers showing the rights have reverted to you and they'll take the books down.

Old Hack
08-12-2013, 12:09 PM
You could also contact Victoria Strauss at Writer Beware! and let her know.

CaoPaux
04-13-2016, 10:07 PM
Updating URL: http://www.isotutpublisher.com/

ctripp
04-14-2016, 03:46 PM
I enjoyed their FAQ page! Inventive fabrications told in broken English.

CaoPaux
04-12-2018, 08:14 PM
Is now DragonEye Publishing: https://www.dragoneyepublishers.com/