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Kitty27
03-17-2012, 10:52 PM
Anyone writing it?

If so,what era and such?

I ask because I'm working on a trilogy right now and would love to talk about the paucity of erotic romance in the AA area.

I don't mean the urban fiction novels or Zane type stuff.

I mean REAL epic love stories with angst,drama,passion and obsession! We so rarely see that with AA romance.

Romeo&Juliet,Wuthering Heights,and all the epic stuff of classic literature is what I'm trying to write.

With a tinge of the Gothic,of course!

backslashbaby
03-18-2012, 06:26 AM
What you are writing sounds wonderful, because of the Gothic ;). I'm not usually big on romance! Add in some classism or politics, and I'm your girl :D Or creepy stuff. I love me some creepy stuff.

I leave romance out of my work so much it's silly! I do have one about a girl falling in love, but it's such a subplot. The MC is probably not PoC, either, because she lives and loves in a very small white town. It's about a specific war, so the setting dictates the probable race of the characters.

Otherwise, no real romance in my work, lol. There's some spooky or sci-fi sex, but that's as close as I get. My characters have a lot on their minds :D :D

FoamyRules
03-18-2012, 06:43 AM
I actually plan to write an African American gothic fiction. Of course one of the books you mentioned "Wuthering Heights" is the inspiration for it, but of course it's going to be nothing like it. I haven't decided on what era to put it in, but I'm leaning towards Contemporary. I tend to write romance a lot, mainly interracial, but I do from time to time write about African American couples :)

ETA: As far as what era to set the story in, I'm open for suggestions.

Silver-Midnight
03-18-2012, 07:06 AM
Well, I used to write IR romance and that's it. However, I've really started to look at other genres and "alternative endings" to books, if that makes sense. I write a lot of Fantasy, specifically Urban Fantasy. But I'm trying to write some other stuff too. I'll still use some romance in my stories, but I think they'll romantic themes more than they used to be.

Kitty27
03-18-2012, 07:26 AM
What you are writing sounds wonderful, because of the Gothic ;). I'm not usually big on romance! Add in some classism or politics, and I'm your girl :D Or creepy stuff. I love me some creepy stuff.

I leave romance out of my work so much it's silly! I do have one about a girl falling in love, but it's such a subplot. The MC is probably not PoC, either, because she lives and loves in a very small white town. It's about a specific war, so the setting dictates the probable race of the characters.

Otherwise, no real romance in my work, lol. There's some spooky or sci-fi sex, but that's as close as I get. My characters have a lot on their minds :D :D


LOL! Mine do,too. But I really want to try romance. I am enjoying it so far.


I actually plan to write an African American gothic fiction. Of course one of the books you mentioned "Wuthering Heights" is the inspiration for it, but of course it's going to be nothing like it. I haven't decided on what era to put it in, but I'm leaning towards Contemporary. I tend to write romance a lot, mainly interracial, but I do from time to time write about African American couples :)

ETA: As far as what era to set the story in, I'm open for suggestions.

I like that,Foamy! I love me some Gothic stuff. I am partial to the Reconstruction era.


Well, I used to write IR romance and that's it. However, I've really started to look at other genres and "alternative endings" to books, if that makes sense. I write a lot of Fantasy, specifically Urban Fantasy. But I'm trying to write some other stuff too. I'll still use some romance in my stories, but I think they'll romantic themes more than they used to be.

I still write IR but given the feedback from my friends about my little WIPs,I'm going to work on them.

I write UF,too!

FoamyRules
03-18-2012, 07:32 AM
Gothic fiction is my favorite genre :) I mean, I write in different genres; thrillers, urban fantasy, horror, science fiction, contemporary both YA and adult fiction, but I love gothic fiction. Of course with each genre I'll add romantic and erotic elements/themes. I would love to read books where black characters are portrayed in other than "hood fiction" and Zane or portraying an oppressed person.

Hmm, the reconstruction era. I don't know too much about it, but I am great at researching. I'll shall look into that.

akaria
03-19-2012, 08:33 PM
I've got a AA werewolf romance that's been sitting on the back burner for about a year. Tried to write it as just a simple contemporary with no supernatural elements. Yeah right. That wasn't happening. There's drama and obsession. Not too much angst. Yet. ;)

I enjoy writing romance. The journey that brings two people together is very addicting and no matter how many times I write one it's different every time. It's especially satisfying to use POC as the leads. A lack of PNR with POC is what got me into writing in the first place.

Glad you're having fun writing romance!

aruna
04-13-2012, 12:05 PM
hmmmm -- you say African-American. I've certainly done African Guyanese and African British and African interrarcial epic romance! I love it! And I'm doing that right now. But never AA.

Sorin
04-30-2012, 08:40 AM
Anyone writing it?

If so,what era and such?

I ask because I'm working on a trilogy right now and would love to talk about the paucity of erotic romance in the AA area.

I don't mean the urban fiction novels or Zane type stuff.

I mean REAL epic love stories with angst,drama,passion and obsession! We so rarely see that with AA romance.

Romeo&Juliet,Wuthering Heights,and all the epic stuff of classic literature is what I'm trying to write.

With a tinge of the Gothic,of course!

*raises hand*

I just sold an AA contemporary erotic romance. I'm still waiting to get my contract, so at this point, I won't say too much more than that. Just know that one will be released into the world in early 2013, and it's not ”urban” fiction in any way (not that I'm knocking urban fiction, but that's not what I write). It is the first in a series, so I plan to keep contributing to the genre as long as my editor will have me!

veinglory
04-30-2012, 07:11 PM
I bought a couple at RT. One from Kensington which look particularly good. Still pretty low visibility though. I'd expect to see more given the thousands of books at that con.

Evangeline
05-03-2012, 01:51 PM
I bought a couple at RT. One from Kensington which look particularly good. Still pretty low visibility though. I'd expect to see more given the thousands of books at that con.

Black romance writers have their own conference--Romance Slam Jam (http://www.romanceslamjam.org/)--, and given the slightly cool climate of mainstream romancelandia towards them, I'm not surprised so few black writers attend RT (or any other mainstream writers/readers conference).

As for the OP, I highly recommend Sharon Cullars' Again (http://www.amazon.com/Again-Sharon-Cullars/dp/0758213700) for angst, passion, eroticism, and gothicky tones.

Kitty27
05-03-2012, 04:40 PM
*raises hand*

I just sold an AA contemporary erotic romance. I'm still waiting to get my contract, so at this point, I won't say too much more than that. Just know that one will be released into the world in early 2013, and it's not ”urban” fiction in any way (not that I'm knocking urban fiction, but that's not what I write). It is the first in a series, so I plan to keep contributing to the genre as long as my editor will have me!


YAAAS! Please let me know so I can buy and support you!


Black romance writers have their own conference--Romance Slam Jam (http://www.romanceslamjam.org/)--, and given the slightly cool climate of mainstream romancelandia towards them, I'm not surprised so few black writers attend RT (or any other mainstream writers/readers conference).

As for the OP, I highly recommend Sharon Cullars' Again (http://www.amazon.com/Again-Sharon-Cullars/dp/0758213700) for angst, passion, eroticism, and gothicky tones.

Thank you so much. So RT and these other conferences have "tude,huh? For some reason,that doesn't surprise me at all.

Silver-Midnight
05-03-2012, 05:37 PM
As for the OP, I highly recommend Sharon Cullars' Again (http://www.amazon.com/Again-Sharon-Cullars/dp/0758213700) for angst, passion, eroticism, and gothicky tones.

I haven't read Sharon Cullars yet but from what I hear, she is a great writer.

veinglory
05-03-2012, 06:37 PM
Black romance writers have their own conference--Romance Slam Jam (http://www.romanceslamjam.org/)--, and given the slightly cool climate of mainstream romancelandia towards them, I'm not surprised so few black writers attend RT (or any other mainstream writers/readers conference).

Sure I can understand that, but it does mean that readers like me pick up 30-40 other books when I am actively interested in POC romance--and others in the audience are too. The signing days were well attended and IMHO a reasonable way to spend $100 just to go to that part and blow the rest of it off. Or even just have the publisher send books for the 'goody room' in lieu of attending. I may be overly optimistic, but I think the authors of POC romance that were there got reasonable reader interest/response.

Evangeline
05-04-2012, 10:09 AM
Thank you so much. So RT and these other conferences have "tude,huh? For some reason,that doesn't surprise me at all.

I don't think it's so much a genuine snubbing, but the general notion that "'those' books aren't for me, so why bother going over there or buying?".


Sure I can understand that, but it does mean that readers like me pick up 30-40 other books when I am actively interested in POC romance--and others in the audience are too. The signing days were well attended and IMHO a reasonable way to spend $100 just to go to that part and blow the rest of it off. Or even just have the publisher send books for the 'goody room' in lieu of attending. I may be overly optimistic, but I think the authors of POC romance that were there got reasonable reader interest/response.

I definitely don't doubt your experience, but the old guard--those AA romance writers who came into the biz in the 90s--have spoken about attending events like RT year after year and watching the hundreds of readers ignoring them, or averting their eyes as they scooted past them, to get to the authors they do want to see. Based on that experience, I can understand why many are more comfortable sticking to venues that are more welcoming and receptive to their presence. And I can see why newer authors, who were inspired to write by the old guard, would follow their lead as well.

In general, I do believe that consistent visibility and support from major reader/reviewer blogs help make dents in the segregation and apathy (mulling over whether this is the right word to use), but I can see why many would choose to not expend energy struggling for a piece of the mainstream pie when they have a loyal market of readers whom they don't have to coax into buying their books.

FoamyRules
05-04-2012, 12:53 PM
Right now I'm currently rewriting an AA epic romance I've been working on for quite a while. I lost the original version (hard drive failure) and now am starting over from scratch.

Also, I'm still gonna write my AA gothic novel, but I'm doing research on the reconstruction era.

Oh and I also plan to read Again by Sharon Cullars.

Sorin
05-06-2012, 01:04 AM
YAAAS! Please let me know so I can buy and support you!

Thank you so much. So RT and these other conferences have "tude,huh? For some reason,that doesn't surprise me at all.

Thanks, Kitty! I'll be sure to let everyone know.

I was one of the few black women attending RT, and I found everyone to be very friendly. At the erotica panel, I met Kayla Perrin, whose covers are seriously drool-worthy, so there is another author you might want to check out. I was at RT this year as a reader, but given the timing of my book release, I'll be there next year as an author. Yay! I would happily attend the Slam Jam, too, if it's not at the same time.

FoamyRules
05-06-2012, 02:40 AM
Thanks, Kitty! I'll be sure to let everyone know.

I was one of the few black women attending RT, and I found everyone to be very friendly. At the erotica panel, I met Kayla Perrin, whose covers are seriously drool-worthy, so there is another author you might want to check out. I was at RT this year as a reader, but given the timing of my book release, I'll be there next year as an author. Yay! I would happily attend the Slam Jam, too, if it's not at the same time.
Congrats on your sale as well Sorin :)

If you don't mind my asking but who did you sale your story to?

Kitty27
05-06-2012, 03:32 AM
Thanks, Kitty! I'll be sure to let everyone know.

I was one of the few black women attending RT, and I found everyone to be very friendly. At the erotica panel, I met Kayla Perrin, whose covers are seriously drool-worthy, so there is another author you might want to check out. I was at RT this year as a reader, but given the timing of my book release, I'll be there next year as an author. Yay! I would happily attend the Slam Jam, too, if it's not at the same time.


WHEW!

That's good to hear. Thanks for the book recommendation. Go head with ya bad self! I will most definitely be buying as soon as you let us know.

Silver-Midnight
05-06-2012, 04:11 AM
Thanks, Kitty! I'll be sure to let everyone know.

I was one of the few black women attending RT, and I found everyone to be very friendly. At the erotica panel, I met Kayla Perrin, whose covers are seriously drool-worthy, so there is another author you might want to check out. I was at RT this year as a reader, but given the timing of my book release, I'll be there next year as an author. Yay! I would happily attend the Slam Jam, too, if it's not at the same time.

That's cool.

Is this her website, Kayla Perrin's I mean: http://www.kaylaperrin.com/page/books.html

Sorin
05-06-2012, 11:19 PM
That's cool.

Is this her website, Kayla Perrin's I mean: http://www.kaylaperrin.com/page/books.html

Yep! That's her, although her book list on her web page doesn't seem to be updated. If you go on Amazon, you'll see her newest titles with yummy covers.

And my series will be coming out with Samhain. :D

FoamyRules
05-07-2012, 02:04 AM
Oh cool, Samhain is on my list of publishers to sub to if I don't go the agent route.

Silver-Midnight
05-07-2012, 02:16 AM
Yep! That's her, although her book list on her web page doesn't seem to be updated. If you go on Amazon, you'll see her newest titles with yummy covers.

And my series will be coming out with Samhain. :D

Found her Amazon and Barnes & Noble:

Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Kayla-Perrin/e/B000APLISS

B&N: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/c/kayla-perrin/2390118

Yep! That's her, although her book list on her web page doesn't seem to be updated. If you go on Amazon, you'll see her newest titles with yummy covers.

And my series will be coming out with Samhain. :D

Keep us all posted on when your book comes out. :D

Sorin
05-07-2012, 02:52 AM
Oh cool, Samhain is on my list of publishers to sub to if I don't go the agent route.

I can't say enough good things about them. My editor is fantastic, gets my work (which has a crazy premise), and really inspires me creatively. If you decide to go straight to publishers, they are a great company. Once I sign my contract, I'll post more info. Thank you all for your support!

OliviaDuBelle
05-07-2012, 09:26 PM
I actually just finished an AA fairy tale type romance. It's out being "judged" now. It's takes place in "a desert kingdom" and is based on the 1001 Arabian Nights story, and it's a bit sexed up (because I write erotic romance.)

As I said, it's out to the publishers now and am checking my email every three to four nanoseconds. :)

Sorin
05-07-2012, 11:28 PM
I actually just finished an AA fairy tale type romance. It's out being "judged" now. It's takes place in "a desert kingdom" and is based on the 1001 Arabian Nights story, and it's a bit sexed up (because I write erotic romance.)

As I said, it's out to the publishers now and am checking my email every three to four nanoseconds. :)

Ooo, how exciting, Olivia! Do you feel comfortable sharing who you subbed to? Fingers crossed for you!

FoamyRules
05-08-2012, 01:17 AM
@OliviaDubelle I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. An AA fairytale, that's so cool :)

@Sorin, yeah I've heard great things about Samhain. My only hesitance is that not all of my romances have an HEA or HFN ending to them. The series I'm working on the first book has an HFN, so I'm still contemplating which route I should go. I'd love to hear more about you all's experiences :)

Sorin
05-08-2012, 02:21 AM
@OliviaDubelle I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. An AA fairytale, that's so cool :)

@Sorin, yeah I've heard great things about Samhain. My only hesitance is that not all of my romances have an HEA or HFN ending to them. The series I'm working on the first book has an HFN, so I'm still contemplating which route I should go. I'd love to hear more about you all's experiences :)

I wouldn't worry too much about the endings (unless it all ends in disaster and is a total bummer LOL). I can't speak for any other pubs, but Samhain's motto is ” It's all about the Story,” and at a panel at RT, Samhain's president said that they really do follow that motto. It's not just lip service. I would imagine that if your story is otherwise great, but your ending needed revising, they might take you on continent upon you making the necessary revisions. That's what happened to me. I subbed and the editor said that she was interested if I would make the revisions she required. In my case it was a few plot points as well as turning up the heat levels on the sex scenes. I made the revisions and she liked them.

I say all of this to say that if a pub sees merit in your work, they will work with you to revise the parts that don't suit their audience. Good luck!

FoamyRules
05-08-2012, 02:40 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about the endings (unless it all ends in disaster and is a total bummer LOL). I can't speak for any other pubs, but Samhain's motto is ” It's all about the Story,” and at a panel at RT, Samhain's president said that they really do follow that motto. It's not just lip service. I would imagine that if your story is otherwise great, but your ending needed revising, they might take you on continent upon you making the necessary revisions. That's what happened to me. I subbed and the editor said that she was interested if I would make the revisions she required. In my case it was a few plot points as well as turning up the heat levels on the sex scenes. I made the revisions and she liked them.

I say all of this to say that if a pub sees merit in your work, they will work with you to revise the parts that don't suit their audience. Good luck!
Oh well that's good to know :) I've been working on this series for years (since high school) and believe I finally got it right and if it goes well this will be my first step into publishing.
I am looking forward to reading your story once it comes out.

Silver-Midnight
05-08-2012, 05:17 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about the endings (unless it all ends in disaster and is a total bummer LOL). I can't speak for any other pubs, but Samhain's motto is ” It's all about the Story,” and at a panel at RT, Samhain's president said that they really do follow that motto. It's not just lip service. I would imagine that if your story is otherwise great, but your ending needed revising, they might take you on continent upon you making the necessary revisions. That's what happened to me. I subbed and the editor said that she was interested if I would make the revisions she required. In my case it was a few plot points as well as turning up the heat levels on the sex scenes. I made the revisions and she liked them.

I say all of this to say that if a pub sees merit in your work, they will work with you to revise the parts that don't suit their audience. Good luck!

Thanks for saying that. :)

OliviaDuBelle
05-08-2012, 05:56 AM
Ooo, how exciting, Olivia! Do you feel comfortable sharing who you subbed to? Fingers crossed for you!

I subbed to Ellora's Cave, where I passed the "first round" so that's good. Liquid Silver, Samhain, and Total E Bound.

The waiting is literally making me die a little inside ;). But I'm busy writing yet another. And another. And another.

FoamyRules
05-08-2012, 05:59 AM
I subbed to Ellora's Cave, where I passed the "first round" so that's good. Liquid Silver, Samhain, Carina, Musa and Total E Bound.

The waiting is literally making me die a little inside ;). But I'm busy writing yet another. And another. And another.
Congratulations Olivia on passing the first round at Ellora's. Will continue to keep my fingers crossed.
I am wondering is your story AA or IR because I write both :)

Sorin
05-08-2012, 06:37 AM
I subbed to Ellora's Cave, where I passed the "first round" so that's good. Liquid Silver, Samhain, and Total E Bound.

The waiting is literally making me die a little inside ;). But I'm busy writing yet another. And another. And another.

Those are all great presses! You couldn't go wrong with any of them. Good luck!

Silver-Midnight
05-08-2012, 06:54 AM
Those are all great presses! You couldn't go wrong with any of them. Good luck!

This! :D

OliviaDuBelle
05-08-2012, 03:43 PM
Congratulations Olivia on passing the first round at Ellora's. Will continue to keep my fingers crossed.
I am wondering is your story AA or IR because I write both :)

Thanks! This particular story is AA, but I also have an IR published at Evernight under Dahlia DeWinters. "Kitty Wishes" about a shapeshifting cat. Pure fluff, that one. ;)

Thanks everyone, for the support and good wishes. I'll be sure to report back!

Kitty27
05-10-2012, 01:32 AM
I actually just finished an AA fairy tale type romance. It's out being "judged" now. It's takes place in "a desert kingdom" and is based on the 1001 Arabian Nights story, and it's a bit sexed up (because I write erotic romance.)

As I said, it's out to the publishers now and am checking my email every three to four nanoseconds. :)


I subbed to Ellora's Cave, where I passed the "first round" so that's good. Liquid Silver, Samhain, and Total E Bound.

The waiting is literally making me die a little inside ;). But I'm busy writing yet another. And another. And another.


WERQ!

Fingers and toes crossed for you! When it comes out,my dollars will be ready!

akaria
05-11-2012, 03:45 AM
Sorin, congrats on the sale to Samhain. They are at the top of my sub list!

Olivia, good luck on the subs. I love fluffy shifter stories. Thanks for making my TBR list even longer! ;)

OliviaDuBelle
05-19-2012, 08:08 PM
Thanks so much for the encouragement, everyone. I really appreciate it.

Kitty27, I love your tagline "so goth I was born black".

OliviaDuBelle
06-13-2012, 06:48 PM
Greetings all! Just wanted to late and let you know my reworked fairy tale romance has been accepted by Liquid Silver! I'm very excited!

Silver-Midnight
06-13-2012, 10:15 PM
Greetings all! Just wanted to late and let you know my reworked fairy tale romance has been accepted by Liquid Silver! I'm very excited!
Congrats!! That's great news.

Lavern08
06-14-2012, 07:11 PM
Greetings all! Just wanted to late and let you know my reworked fairy tale romance has been accepted by Liquid Silver! I'm very excited!

Congratz!!! :hooray:

Kitty27
06-15-2012, 08:45 AM
Greetings all! Just wanted to late and let you know my reworked fairy tale romance has been accepted by Liquid Silver! I'm very excited!


YAAAAAS!

I am ready to buy *waves card*

Please let us know!

Congratulations!

Sorin
06-18-2012, 12:07 AM
Greetings all! Just wanted to late and let you know my reworked fairy tale romance has been accepted by Liquid Silver! I'm very excited!

How exciting, Olvia! Congrats!

Definitely let us know when it comes out so that we can buy it!

FoamyRules
06-18-2012, 09:51 PM
Congrats that's so exciting olivia