Queer Reincarnation

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In the thread on "Things Straight People Do . . " , I commented that I think Cynthia Nixon's recent quote about queer choice had some merit in spite of the fact it bothered many people. Then I added:

I was at a party of mostly gays and lesbians not too long ago. We discussed if we have the ability to choose our next incarnation and we came back as a different gender, which would we be? Would we choose on the basis of sexual attraction--so all the gay men would want to be straight women and all the lesbians would be straight men? Or do we identify more with queer identity--so the gay men would prefer to be lesbians and the lesbians would be gay men? Most of the people at the party said they'd chose to keep their queer identity.


A couple of people in the forum suggested I start a new thread on this so what do you all think? Hypothetically, if you have the ability choose your next life, do you choose to be queer again?
 

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I don't know if I'd want to choose my reincarnation too much, simply because on a philosophical level, I feel like sometimes it's better not to choose.

But yeah, I'd probably keep my queer identity, especially as it is right now. I like being bi/pansexual. I'd probably choose to be born with a male body, though.
 

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Philosophically, I'm not sure I could even exist without remembering parts of this life. It's that old question about whether you would still be yourself if none of your physicalities or experiences were there to shape you...

So taking that into consideration, if I were born physically female, I don't see why I would suddenly be attracted to men.

I'd be a cis lesbian, instead of a trans lesbian. (And I'd probably be a lot happier than I have been so far with being born male.)

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No doubt about it, I'd still want to come back as a lesbian.
 

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I''m bisexual so I guess can see being either straight or queer. But I do not want to be one of those clueless straights. I hope if I come back heterosexual next time I am blessed with a queer parent or sibling with whom I have a close, loving relationship enabling me to develop sensitivity and awareness. Seriously would not want to be one of those "dude, bro" straight guys who snickers at same-sex couples nor the type of hetero woman who signed that million moms petition against Ellen DeGeneres doing ads for Penny's.
 

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I've been thinking about this question for days. It sort of puts a different spin on the whole "choice" debate. Obviously, we all know orientation and gender identity aren't a choice. But if you could choose…

For me, the tricky thing about the reincarnation aspect is I keep thinking of it terms of how my life so far has gone. I could have done without that solid week when my mom stopped talking to me; and all the doubt and self-loathing that goes along with being closeted--I wouldn't miss that. So in that regard, it would be nice to come back straight and not have any of that shit to deal with.

On the other hand, my relationship with my mom is better and closer now than it would have been if we hadn't gone through the not-talking phase, and I can appreciate what it feels like to be perceived as "other" which I might not if I weren't queer.

And on a third hand, I've often wondered what it feels like to be a straight ally, and that could be a good thing to experience as well that's impossible for me in this life.

So I guess I don't really have an answer. But I have been pondering this quite a bit.
 

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I suspect that queer-ness is often a central part of the identity of out & proud queer people. They've had to fight for it, or against it, or about it, so it's become important to them.

But straight little me has no attachment whatsoever to her orientation. Being straight is like having brown hair... It never did anything to define me. I never had to take a stand because I have brown hair.

Am I making sense?
 

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Its cheesy but my first reaction was that I don't care as long as I'm whatever my reincarnated girlfriend likes. Love, man, and what not.
 

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I hope more post on this thread as this was something my husband and I (I know straight) were discussing. I would change genders and be gay if given the choice. He would stay straight male and miss me :) I really wanted to know what the queer opinion is on this so please continue. . .
 

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Well, I've always been somewhat curious what it's like to be male, but since I'm queer/pansexual it'd make no real difference to my sexual identity, so I'd honestly not mind what I came back as. I'd just want to continue to be attracted to people the same way I am now.
 

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I'd come back as a female Captain Jack (Doctor Who, Torchwood) or male if I had to absolutely change sexes since I'm already female. I like being female but it's no big deal either way. I'd definitely be queerer than I am now though.

I think true happiness may lie along the fully pansexual path, honestly. Now if my loins and my heart would work together, I would be there already :D Panromantic Heterosexuality is a bit of a mouthful and half as satisfying, lol. ;)
 

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I'd reincarnate the same way, except with the powers of a goddess so I could smite anyone who gave LGBT people crap. :)
 

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Wait, we get to choose superpowers? That changes everything!
 

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This is a HUGE question. Are we assuming continued social trends or is time cycle? Could we end up coming back with our preferred identity in 1350?

If we assume that we will die and come back in the future in a more accepting time I would choose to change. I would come back a lesbian. Currently I am bi and female.

I've really been interested it reading everyone's responses.
 

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I can't see myself not being queer and still being me...but then how much of 'me' is carried over into this reincarnation? Do I remember bits of my past, or is it just some essential spark that has no memory of its previous lives?

If the latter, then I guess it doesn't matter; it won't be the same person as I am anyway. If the former, I'd probably prefer to stil be a queer man, just because it feels like home to me. Either way I'd prefer to be reborn in a place where I wouldn't end up in physical danger because of my identity.
 

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I've decided that so long as I still have that mysterious "spark" inside me, and don't have to relive this life over and over again, that'd be fine.

Well, okay, amend that. The next life would have to be different and NOT worse than the one I'm living now. Different and same level of suck? I can deal with that maybe. Different and better? Bring it on!
 

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My answer keeps changing. I'd be a man because I dislike experiencing misogyny. Wait, no, I'd be a woman because I don't think I'd like being a man. Wait, no, experiencing my period and the perimenopausal Hormonal Rage Monster on the same day is not something I'd ever choose to do again, so let's go back to man. Straight is way easier to fit into society, but being in a relationship with someone of the same sex seems to make more sense as there's no gender-based misunderstandings possible.

Which, I suppose, is its own answer: I don't know. Would being a pansexual gender-fluid person be best, because it would let me cover all the bases and experience all the permutations? Or would that be so unusual that I'd end up on a planet with a population of 1?
 

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Well, I honestly don't think I can choose. If I came back as a man, I would probably fall in love with my soul-mate all over again; be them man or woman.
 

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Definitely the same pissed-off lesbian I am now. I'd be there, queer and in your face.

Except that I might grow a moustache.
 
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