This one is for the coffee addicts

Chiquita Banana

practical experience, FTW
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jan 14, 2009
Messages
425
Reaction score
35
Website
libby-mercer.blogspot.com
Hi all.

I have a character who drinks 6-7 cups of coffee a day and he's been taken (unwillingly) to a wellness retreat where there's no coffee or anything with caffeine - no aspirin either.

I've given him a massive headache and the wellness folks are doing their best to help alleviate his pain with special herbal teas and pressure point therapy. So far he's only been there one day.

My question is this: how long will he be having headaches, considering he's gone cold turkey after a 6-7 a day habit? The teas/pressure points help but I don't think they'd take away his pain completely.

Thanks in advance! I wish I could conduct this experiment on myself, but I can't stand coffee. Never could. :)
 

mirandashell

Banned
Joined
Feb 7, 2010
Messages
16,197
Reaction score
1,889
Location
England
I drink coffee but I have no idea how long it would take cos I've never stopped drinking it for long enough!

The headache is evil, though.
 

jennontheisland

the world is at my command
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 17, 2006
Messages
7,270
Reaction score
2,125
Location
down by the bay
At least a week. With regular naps because conciousness is caffiene dependent. I quit over winter break between semesters. Would get up at 6 am with my husband, be back asleep by 10, stay asleep until 2 or 3 when he got home, then go to bed at 9 or 10. I was also cranky as fuck.
 
Joined
Aug 7, 2005
Messages
47,985
Reaction score
13,245
I tried kicking tea once and had an absolute corker of a headache for 4-5 days, so that shows you how much I drink. There's less caffeine in tea, of course.

I had the vaguest shadow of that headache still hanging round for nearly two weeks, no lie.
 

jennontheisland

the world is at my command
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 17, 2006
Messages
7,270
Reaction score
2,125
Location
down by the bay
There's less caffeine in tea, of course.
Actually, we did caffeine extractions in one of my organic chemistry labs (classmates were joking with me that they thought I'd chop it up and snort lines of it from the lab bench) and by mass, tea had more caffiene than coffee. It all depends on how you brew it, but I use significantly more coffee per cup than I do tea.
 
Joined
Aug 7, 2005
Messages
47,985
Reaction score
13,245
True. But there's less tea in a teabag than there is coffee in a...uh...coffeebag?

Jesus. This thread is making me thirsty. I'm gonna put the kettle on.
 

mirandashell

Banned
Joined
Feb 7, 2010
Messages
16,197
Reaction score
1,889
Location
England
I once went 8 hours without coffee and the headache got so bad I couldn't function.
 

jennontheisland

the world is at my command
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 17, 2006
Messages
7,270
Reaction score
2,125
Location
down by the bay
True. But there's less tea in a teabag than there is coffee in a...uh...coffeebag?

Jesus. This thread is making me thirsty. I'm gonna put the kettle on.
Right. Teabags have maybe a tsp (5 mL) of tea, whereas coffee... I use well over 1 tbsp (15 mL), close to 2 tbsp per cup when I make coffee. But then, I like my coffee ridiculously strong.

I was merely pointing out that by mass... I am a geek.
 

Chiquita Banana

practical experience, FTW
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jan 14, 2009
Messages
425
Reaction score
35
Website
libby-mercer.blogspot.com
Goodness, thanks so much for the responses, everyone! This is so helpful. And it's especially good to know about the naps, jennontheisland. This guy (my character) is a total career obsessed type-A personality who never sleeps more than four hours a night. I can't wait to get him all freaked out about how much he's sleeping! (I feel like a sadist because I'm having so much fun torturing this character...)
 

Snick

Sockpuppet
Banned
Joined
Jun 13, 2011
Messages
934
Reaction score
86
Location
Havatoo
I have stopped drinking coffee a few times, but I never go headaches from it.
 

Spiral

looking at the stars
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Nov 5, 2010
Messages
1,306
Reaction score
294
Location
Ontario, Canada
I don't know if you are interested in this, but just in case :) I work in a tea shop and Honeybush (a plant from South Africa) is drank as a tea and is good for headaches. There are other herbs too...but I'd have to look them up. I could if you want.
 
Joined
Aug 7, 2005
Messages
47,985
Reaction score
13,245
It's probably all kinds of wrong that for me, a standard breakfast is two nurofen migraine and a mug of tea.
 

Chiquita Banana

practical experience, FTW
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jan 14, 2009
Messages
425
Reaction score
35
Website
libby-mercer.blogspot.com
Spiral, that's so sweet of you but I think I'm probably okay and I'd hate to trouble you. I did a little research on this and they're giving him a tea made with white willow, mint and basil. I think I'll dump either mint or basil and replace it with honeybush (the more obscure the ingredients the better). :)
 

leahzero

The colors! THE COLORS!
Super Member
Registered
Joined
May 1, 2009
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
377
Location
Chicago
Website
words.leahraeder.com
Just to chime in:

The really evil, brain tumor-level migraines last two days for me, and they start after going more than about 18 hours without caffeine. Then they taper off and take about a week to subside.

And that pain is friggin' INTENSE. I've had non-caffeine-related migraines, and it's on par with that. You almost want to die.
 

debirlfan

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 22, 2010
Messages
273
Reaction score
22
I used to work nights, and I drank a TON of coffee - giant cup from Bess Eaton (think Dunkin Donuts) on the way to work, another at 3am "lunch" time, and another when I got out of work - and a few cups of the crud they called coffee out of the machine in between. However - I didn't drink coffee at home. I don't really remember getting headaches, but I did sleep most of the weekends (when I wasn't working.) Finally just gave up and started drinking it at home. :)
 

Karen Junker

Live a little. Write a lot.
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 16, 2005
Messages
2,719
Reaction score
551
Location
Bellevue, WA
Website
www.CascadeWriters.com
I have been in this situation, sorta--and for me, the pressure point that worked the best to relieve the headache was the one between the base of the thumb and forefinger. There's a way to feel for a small lump there--you pinch it between the thumb and forefinger tips of the other hand and gradually increase the pressure, then very slowly let off the pressure. It's helped my caffeine withdrawal headaches immensely.
 

L.C. Blackwell

Keeper of Fort Blanket
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jun 12, 2008
Messages
2,373
Reaction score
521
Location
The Coffee Shop
Your wellness group members had better be patient people. Living with somebody going off caffeine is not for the sensitive. It can be a lot like living with this....

:troll
 
Last edited:

shaldna

The cake is a lie. But still cake.
Super Member
Registered
Joined
May 12, 2009
Messages
7,485
Reaction score
897
Location
Belfast
I've given him a massive headache and the wellness folks are doing their best to help alleviate his pain with special herbal teas and pressure point therapy. So far he's only been there one day.

My question is this: how long will he be having headaches, considering he's gone cold turkey after a 6-7 a day habit? The teas/pressure points help but I don't think they'd take away his pain completely.

At the height of my caffeine addition I was drinking about 150 grams of instant coffee a day - that's a medium jar.

Now I'm down to about 6 cups. I don't get a 'buzz' from coffee, never have. But I get serious withdrawl if I don't have it, or don't have enough.

I stopped completely when I was pregnant and the headaches are the worst. I felt like my whole head was being squeezed, like my brain was too big for my skull.

They lasted for about a week straight. I couldn't sleep.

I started to get the shakes after the first day, it started in my hand and progressed until i was shivering all over.

By day three I was getting really bad palpatations to the extent that my doctor suggested I keep drinking small amounts of coffee so the withdrawl wouldn't pose a risk to my pregnancy.
 

Flicka

Dull Old Person
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 8, 2010
Messages
1,249
Reaction score
147
Location
Far North
Website
www.theragsoftime.com
I drink tons of coffee - usually kick off with four espressos + milk in the morning and I can easily drink four times that. It varies. I've gone cold turkey many times and usually get a vague headache the first day but that's the only reaction I ever got. I've never experienced a caffeine high from coffee - it does zero to wake me up and I can have three ristrettos and sleep like a baby so maybe I'm not typical?
 

Flicka

Dull Old Person
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Jul 8, 2010
Messages
1,249
Reaction score
147
Location
Far North
Website
www.theragsoftime.com
Goodness, thanks so much for the responses, everyone! This is so helpful. And it's especially good to know about the naps, jennontheisland. This guy (my character) is a total career obsessed type-A personality who never sleeps more than four hours a night. I can't wait to get him all freaked out about how much he's sleeping! (I feel like a sadist because I'm having so much fun torturing this character...)

This used to me be me and let me tell you, I NEED more than four hours sleep. I feel best on 9 hours. I just didn't allow myself to get it. Any feeling of being tired is nothing compared to my drive. I've flown across the continent and done high level multi-lingual meetings on no sleep at all. The less I sleep, the less I feel I need it. Finally, you're too tired to sleep and you don't even know you're tired because it's every day. You've simply taught yourself to be blind and deaf to your physical needs, like hunger and tiredness because you're constantly high on achievement. At least that was me.

When I finally came down after years of this, it took me about a month on sleeping pills before I could sleep a full 8 hours even with the pills.

ETA: I tried giving up coffee for that month as well. Made no difference whatsoever.
 
Last edited: