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Lavern08
12-02-2011, 08:30 PM
Crowds at the mall.

I mean seriously, all I wanted was a new comforter and I had to wade through a sea of *seasonal* shoppers and wait 27.5 minutes to checkout.

DANG! :flag:

alleycat
12-02-2011, 08:32 PM
That's why I shop online.

Lavern08
12-02-2011, 08:33 PM
Word.

LilGreenBookworm
12-02-2011, 08:34 PM
You know what I hate? The top ten lists.

"Top ten worst fashion trends of 2011"

"Top ten best selling burgers of 2011"

"Top ten worst jokes of 2011"

"Top ten top ten lists of 2011"

Are these really necessary every single year?

scarletpeaches
12-02-2011, 08:38 PM
Christmas.

Lavern08
12-02-2011, 08:41 PM
You know what I hate? The top ten lists.

Yep, forgot about those - Hate 'em too! :rant:

AutumnWrite
12-02-2011, 08:44 PM
Mandatory Christmas shopping.

StellaArgentum
12-02-2011, 10:46 PM
Mandatory calls to distant, little-known relatives for the holidays. :(

Alpha Echo
12-02-2011, 10:52 PM
Trying to figure out when we're getting together with whom. Ugh! Stress!

Jehhillenberg
12-02-2011, 11:00 PM
You know what I hate? The top ten lists.

"Top ten worst fashion trends of 2011"

"Top ten best selling burgers of 2011"

"Top ten worst jokes of 2011"

"Top ten top ten lists of 2011"

Are these really necessary every single year?

Of-frikin-course! It's the way of life! If some of us don't have lists to remind us of the uber important aspects of the year, we-we c-can't function. We have to be in the know. I-I can't even... *breathe*

:D:D


Oh -- and I hate the weather, even in the south.

stormie
12-02-2011, 11:10 PM
It's the anniversary of each of my parent's deaths. (Yeah, I'm a real downer.)

On the brighter side of hating December--nothing else. I stay away from the malls on weekends, I shop online, I try to schedule things with breathing room in-between, I ignore those top ten lists of the year, I'm ignoring the Kardashians.

And by the time December rolls around, I've accepted the fact that sitting on the beach will have to wait a few months.

alleycat
12-02-2011, 11:20 PM
Celebrity Christmas specials.

A Justin Bieber Christmas

Christmas on Rodeo Drive with Paris Hilton

Britney Spears / Have Yourself a Crazy Little Christmas

Kim Kardashian's Reality Christmas

Lindsey Lohan / Christmas in the County Jail

Richard Gere's Buddha Christmas

Ari Meermans
12-02-2011, 11:22 PM
It's the anniversary of each of my parent's deaths. (Yeah, I'm a real downer.)


That would do it for me, too. :Hug2:

The only things I hate about December are the sleet and ice storms. I limit my shopping to the early morning hours of weekdays and I've out-lived most of my more troublesome relatives.

KellyAssauer
12-03-2011, 12:36 AM
What part of December don't I hate?

Oh, yeah...
the one bright spot being the winter solstice and the hopeful return of sunlight! Everything else about December bites, and if that's not enough... then comes January and February. Geez, I really should move.

Jess Haines
12-03-2011, 12:49 AM
My birthday being two days before Christmas. :rant:

stormie
12-03-2011, 12:51 AM
Celebrity Christmas specials.

A Justin Bieber Christmas

Christmas on Rodeo Drive with Paris Hilton

Britney Spears / Have Yourself a Crazy Little Christmas

Kim Kardashian's Reality Christmas

Lindsey Lohan / Christmas in the County Jail

Richard Gere's Buddha Christmas



:ROFL:
Needed that.

Mclesh
12-03-2011, 01:06 AM
Obligatory things. :(

Cliff Face
12-03-2011, 01:42 AM
LOL, I thought that said "obligatory thighs"! I was like, "Yeah, don't you hate it when your thighs just have to be there?" :tongue

What I hate about December? It's the start of Summer, and Summer is ludicrous down here.

Otherwise, I hate the cold meat on Christmas day - though I like giving and receiving gifts. :)

Mclesh
12-03-2011, 01:58 AM
LOL, I thought that said "obligatory thighs"! I was like, "Yeah, don't you hate it when your thighs just have to be there?" :tongue

What I hate about December? It's the start of Summer, and Summer is ludicrous down here.

Otherwise, I hate the cold meat on Christmas day - though I like giving and receiving gifts. :)

My thighs are always there.:)

Summer for Christmas. You must have quite a few surfing Santas; right?
(I live in Southern California where half the time it's 80 degrees on Christmas day.)

Jehhillenberg
12-03-2011, 02:25 AM
My birthday being two days before Christmas. :rant:

*clicks tongue* I know exactly what you mean!

PorterStarrByrd
12-03-2011, 02:30 AM
Sleeping with the window open above the head of my bed becomes a little more challenging

shakeysix
12-03-2011, 02:50 AM
my kid with the december 22 b-day insists on a birthday cake and cries if i use christmas paper to wrap her birthday gift. she's 40 years old!--ss

Alwaysinspired
12-03-2011, 03:12 AM
I hate the fact that everyone and their mother thinks the Christmas season is a time to solicit me. It's not enough that my kids' school is asking for donations constantly, but now it seems there are bells being rung in my face whenever I enter a store. I have people calling on the phone wanting me to donate to charities. I have cashiers asking me to donate money to the store's cause. Where does it end? I'm all about helping those in need, but if I give to everyone then my family will be "in need." Sorry, just venting :)

DeleyanLee
12-03-2011, 03:41 AM
I dislike most everything having to do with the holiday season, though the days themselves don't bother me much.

The same 10 Christmas songs playing all the work day, even if they're sung by different people/groups.

All the Santa and elf stuff in commercials (though this isn't as bad as March, when everyone tries to have an Irish accent).

All the "solicitude" of ringing bells, letters, phone calls and the occasional person stopping by the house begging for money I don't have.

Oh, and the expectation to decorate for the holidays, whether it's the house and yard or my own clothing.

Snowstorm
12-03-2011, 05:08 AM
The Christmas buying frenzy and the greedfest.

And the unending Christmas music! Gah! Where's my icepick to poke my ears out!

Mclesh
12-03-2011, 05:16 AM
Things I DON'T Hate About December? This thread. :)

Eudoxia
12-03-2011, 05:34 AM
The dreaded Christmas music that follows me wherever I go. At the mall, in the car, in school and even on the streets. Why can't it just leave me alone! :rant:

Another problem I have is December is how everything is gone by the time I get to the store. EVERYTHING. It's like a horde of people waited outside until the doors were finally unlocked and they took everything in sight. Guess I'll have to wait till January to get a new pair of pants...

alegory
12-03-2011, 06:50 AM
Buying something I buy all year round but finding it looks like I'm getting into the Christmas spirit prematurely because the kindly manufacturer has made the packaging look like it has been snowed on, wrapped up, dressed up... Grr!

heyjude
12-03-2011, 04:04 PM
I hate the fact that everyone and their mother thinks the Christmas season is a time to solicit me. It's not enough that my kids' school is asking for donations constantly, but now it seems there are bells being rung in my face whenever I enter a store. I have people calling on the phone wanting me to donate to charities. I have cashiers asking me to donate money to the store's cause. Where does it end? I'm all about helping those in need, but if I give to everyone then my family will be "in need." Sorry, just venting :)

Oh, this. Every cashier, every kid in the neighborhood, every street corner someone with a can... almost all worthy charities, and we give a lot, but if I gave to every single thing I'd be broke. I hate saying no. Guilt!

Other than that December is lovely. Getting ready for the new year at work is a bit stressful, but who cares. I love the weather (well, that's easy here), the cheerfulness, the kids getting all excited for Hanukkah and Christmas, the choir practices... love it all.

alleycat
12-03-2011, 04:39 PM
I hate saying no. Guilt!


Here's what I do. I select what charities I want to give to at the start of the year; generally local charities rather than the big national charities (which often seems to spend a lot of money on promotion and perks for the people running it).

Then, whenever anyone asks for money (even if it's a good cause), I just tell them that I have already made my charitable commitments for the year. Of course, if it's something like the Shriners selling a paper for a dollar for their burn hospital, or the homeless people selling their newspaper, I might go ahead and give them a dollar or two.

If a charity telemarketer calls, I just say I don't accept telemarketing calls of any sort .

No guilt, and I'm more aware of what my money is actually being used for. For example, in the past few years I've given to a local group that was trying to buy a tract of old-growth forest to add to a large public park near where I live. I could see where my money went; and eventually the group was able to buy the land and turn it over to the city.

Cliff Face
12-03-2011, 05:02 PM
As per surfing Santas: Yes. I thought that was just an Australian thing, but I guess not. :)

People solicit me all the time no matter what month it is, anyway, so I don't particularly notice a massive amount over Christmas.

It's probably different in the States, as most things are.

But yes - I hate the guilt! Like, in the past I've very rarely had a paying job. So I've had to turn down LOADS of charities. A few times I've felt so guilty that I've signed up for $30 a month or whatever, even though I couldn't afford it, and then cancelled when I didn't have to look someone in the eye.

Guilt. I has it.

Tepelus
12-03-2011, 05:27 PM
Christmas.

Exactly.

I hate spending money I don't have for Christmas gifts. The time of the year of which I'm the most broke. Every year I hate it more than the last. Bah humbug!

scarletpeaches
12-03-2011, 10:15 PM
I went into town today to run some essential errands (and while I was there I forgot to pay my council tax, but meh, they'll just have to wait for it).

Anyhoo, there were Sally Army brass bands, carol singers, chuggers, tin-rattlers...

Do I feel guilty for saying no? Do I buggery. I'm not going to give away money I can ill afford just because it's December. If I do good deeds and voluntary work, I a) do it all year round and b) keep the details to myself. Discretion is the better part of valour after all.

When it comes to Christmas, it's the enforced jollity I despise. I certainly don't feel guilty for not buying people presents. I refuse to.

Others have said to me, "Oh, but you have to, don't you?"

Uh...no. No, I don't. So I reckon I'll be coming up to the time when I stock up on a metric fuckton of groceries so I don't have to leave the house 'til January.

Call me Scrooge if you want. But this Scrooge will have no credit card bills in the new year.

Devil Ledbetter
12-03-2011, 10:37 PM
I hate being subjected to horrible Christmas music. (Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer, etc. Whhhhhhy?)

I hate when people respond to warm holiday greetings by complaining that it's not the "correct" greeting. These folks deserve a good hard punch in the throat.

I hate when people clog my Facebook page with asswipery about the "real" meaning of this or that December holiday or tradition and how anything that doesn't suit their narrow definition is "greed." Go ahead and share what it means to you, but stuff what it should mean to me.

I hate when people use Santa or elves to threaten my kids. We've had teachers tell the class things like "Be good or else Santa won't bring you presents." You know, if you want to make idle Santa threats against your own kids, have at it. But don't sit there telling my kids that their Christmas morning is at risk because Santa is a vindictive creep.

Whew. That is all. Off to slaughter a Christmas tree.

Pistol Whipped Bee
12-03-2011, 11:07 PM
Nothing. Hating anything feels bad. Like with every other month, in December I just go with the flow.

heyjude
12-04-2011, 12:05 AM
Here's what I do. I select what charities I want to give to at the start of the year; generally local charities rather than the big national charities (which often seems to spend a lot of money on promotion and perks for the people running it).

Then, whenever anyone asks for money (even if it's a good cause), I just tell them that I have already made my charitable commitments for the year. Of course, if it's something like the Shriners selling a paper for a dollar for their burn hospital, or the homeless people selling their newspaper, I might go ahead and give them a dollar or two.

If a charity telemarketer calls, I just say I don't accept telemarketing calls of any sort .

No guilt, and I'm more aware of what my money is actually being used for. For example, in the past few years I've given to a local group that was trying to buy a tract of old-growth forest to add to a large public park near where I live. I could see where my money went; and eventually the group was able to buy the land and turn it over to the city.

Smart you! We don't do charity over the phone any more either. And we have a handful of charities that we give to as a matter of course. But then there's the fundraisers at school, one a week it seems, and how can you say no to the people trying to educate your children on a shoestring budget?! and the bellringers at every freaking entrance of every grocery store, and just a dollar or five at every cash register for homeless kittens or the food bank... it's all so worthy, you know? I always wish I could give each time to each one.


I hate when people use Santa or elves to threaten my kids. We've had teachers tell the class things like "Be good or else Santa won't bring you presents." You know, if you want to make idle Santa threats against your own kids, have at it. But don't sit there telling my kids that their Christmas morning is at risk because Santa is a vindictive creep.

Oh, this. Especially when there are kids in the class who don't celebrate Christmas. THAT makes me see red. My boy's "girlfriend" is Jewish and she feels sad and left out at that stuff. (Must not rant, must not rant...)

And that elf? Hate him. I think he's creepy and I don't like him watching my kids one bit. We don't really do Santa at our house, so my kids are immune to the threats. They're creeped out by the elf, too, though.

Tepelus
12-04-2011, 12:05 AM
I hate when people use Santa or elves to threaten my kids. We've had teachers tell the class things like "Be good or else Santa won't bring you presents." You know, if you want to make idle Santa threats against your own kids, have at it. But don't sit there telling my kids that their Christmas morning is at risk because Santa is a vindictive creep.

They should use Krampus instead. :tongue

Charles Farley
12-04-2011, 12:14 AM
I can only wear my sunglases until around 4:00 pm without getting weird looks. I look cool in shades.

Mclesh
12-04-2011, 12:48 AM
I hate being subjected to horrible Christmas music. (Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer, etc. Whhhhhhy?)
.

This.

When I'm subjected to this abomination, I want to hit myself over the head with a blunt object. There is truly beautiful music out there, Bach and the like, written for Christmas. The reindeer song -- why?

(Years ago, my mother-in-law bought a stuffed reindeer for my son. At the push of a button, it played the offending song. I refused to take it home.)

Not a Scrooge; I have standards.

Cliff Face
12-04-2011, 02:13 AM
Let's pause for a moment and give credit to those on the front lines, the brave men and women who work in retail.

*tips hat*

Yup - I work in retail.

Fortunately, at my work we play the radio, NOT endless amounts of Christmas CDs. And so far the radio stations have been pretty good.

At the shopping centre near my house, however, the past few days they've been playing Christmas songs over the main speakers... Ugh.

Of course, I'm a little opposite to some people in this thread. I like certain aspects of the commercialisation of Christmas, but have no truck with the religious aspects.

I'm not a religious person, and if I were I'd be a Pagan, so for me the real joy of Christmas is simply that I get to test my shopping abilities to try to find suitable presents for other people.

I love to shop (though I tend to buy Christmas presents in October or earlier, partly to avoid the crowds but also it's when I have more money that it is when I shop) and I like seeing people's reactions to my thought-out gifts.

And I like receiving presents too.

I'm not opposed to Christmas trees, though the one mum has (and her decorations) aren't really my cup of tea - I'd want one a bit more alternative.

I think maybe a bone-white tree (I'll only do plastic trees - I'm not cutting down a living tree just for Christmas) and the one we currently have is green, but there are some white ones where I work. And then black, red and purple decorations, hopefully some that are a bit on the gothic side.

But get rid of that bloody Christmas music!

Cliff Face
12-04-2011, 02:19 AM
I don't know how anyone could feel left out. There is no religious significance left in this shopping frenzy, which masquerades its greed as "Christmas." It's totally secular.

That may be so, but even if it's lost religious significance, there's still the fact that Jewish people don't celebrate Christmas on the whole.

And a young kid is going to still believe in Santa Claus, where a young Jewish kid probably doesn't. (Generalisations, I know, but work with me here.)

So it's definitely possibly to feel left out. Like, let's use an example to take religion out of the mix.

It's a kid's birthday. She's having a party. Everyone in her class is invited, except one kid with glasses.

Of course that kid's going to feel left out, regardless of the reason or the type of event.

Cliff Face
12-04-2011, 02:26 AM
I've never once gone to the beach on Christmas... Hell, I've hardly gone to the beach at all in my life.

Sure, we've always lived less than half an hour's drive from the beach (current house is a 10 minute walk) but I just plain don't like the beach.

Sand gets everywhere, it's hot, it usually smells, and if you go in the water, even if you avoid the millions of things that can kill you (especially down here in Australia) then the salt water will sting your eyes and get in your mouth, making you want to throw up.

Bah beachbug.

:tongue

Devil Ledbetter
12-04-2011, 02:41 AM
How many of those who like this time of year and join in, go anywhere near a church on December 25th? Where, part of the sermon would almost certainly decry the crass commercialism. Not everything about the holiday season that isn't Christ, church or bible centered is automatically "crass commercialism."

There is no greed in giving gifts. There is no greed in baking for others. There is no greed bringing out special decorations, some of which have been passed down through generations. There is no greed in caroling, or telling stories, or sipping hot toddies by the fire with friends.

The amount of "crass commercialism" in our Christmas is strictly the amount we let in. It's not so hard to keep it to a minimum. It's just a matter of discipline and knowing when to say "no."

Kathleen_
12-04-2011, 03:03 AM
My birthday being two days before Christmas. :rant:

My birthday is ON christmas day! That's even worse! I can't do anything for my birthday on my birthday because it's christmas!

I work retail, so for me it's the busy working time of year and my friends get anoyed that I can't go to all the Christmas functions and so on.
Also the fact that customers have been complaining for two months that we don't have our Christmas lines in and now we do no one says thank you.

KTC
12-04-2011, 03:13 AM
Christmas.

Kathleen_
12-04-2011, 04:38 AM
I'm not being unsympathetic, Kathleen, it must be rough, but at least you're in a nice warm, dry climate, where it doesn't get dark at 4:00 pm. I envy you that. I've always hated snow. It gives me a form of cabin fever. Ugh...

I believe in snow! I even saw it once! Not here... but I saw it! I know it exists! lol :p

I think it's a case of the grass is always greener. Heat + humidity + hot christmas lunch isn't always the best combination. ;) Also having to wear santa hats at work when the aircon has not been working the last four days and the shop is so crowded you can hardly move.

But grass is always greener, I hate the cold! Yes, it does get cold here. Once at night time this year it got down into single didgits celcius (thats under 48 F). Thats cold! ;) :P tehehe!

Silver King
12-04-2011, 06:40 AM
Sounds like some of the posters in this thread might appreciate our Scrooges Unite discussion (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162770) and are welcome to express their feelings there as well.

Cliff Face
12-04-2011, 09:15 AM
I like single digits Celsius. :)

That's my sort of weather!

LilGreenBookworm
12-04-2011, 09:19 AM
12 Pains Of Christmas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHpMZPYWDm0)

jjdebenedictis
12-04-2011, 11:12 AM
The fact that by the time December rolls around, the Christmas decorations have already been up for a month. (I'm Canadian. Our Thanksgiving doesn't get in the way like American Thanksgiving does. Our stores roll out the faux pine garlands the day after Hallowe'en.)

And yes, Christmas music. If it were that great, we'd listen to it year 'round. We don't. There's a reason.

But on a more positive note, I have a friend who loves December. She's Sikh. As far as she's concerned, she's getting paid overtime for working her regular hours.

Sunny Moonlight
12-04-2011, 11:24 AM
The no traction light. They should change it to the 'you just might die' light.

BenPanced
12-04-2011, 11:38 AM
December hasn't completely overtaken and replaced summer.

Yet.

*dun-dun-DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!*

heyjude
12-04-2011, 04:35 PM
I don't know how anyone could feel left out. There is no religious significance left in this shopping frenzy, which masquerades its greed as "Christmas." It's totally secular. What have Santa Claus, the reindeer, decorated trees, mistletoe and Jingle Bells got to do with the Christ child born in a manger? The Star of Bethlehem has been nigh near forgotten, as have the Three Wise Men.

Cliff said it earlier, but to echo, yeah, she totally feels left out. The whole class is talking about Santa and presents and her family doesn't do Christmas.

Like DL, I don't agree that anything other than the religious stuff is commercialism. So many people of all or no faith(s) are moved to do wonderful charitable works this time of year. That's awesome.

I almost hate to admit how much I love the Christmas season. :D (But yeah, the Reindeer song can go.)

scarletpeaches
12-04-2011, 10:23 PM
I'll tell you what really ticks me off about this 'charitable deeds' wank.

I'm not going to go into detail, but that's something I believe one should do all year round, if they do it at all.

And when I refuse to give to charity in December, or to pay attention to chuggers and the like, the reaction I get is generally, "But it's Christmas! How can you be so Scrooge-like?"

I deeply, deeply resent these fuckwits attempting to put me on a guilt-trip because I dare say no to them in December.

They probably think I'm anti-charity and anti-volunteering.

No; I'm strongly against both of those when acts of mercy are performed simply because it's the last month of the year. If you're putting on a Christmassy act, then it's all about you. I believe good deeds should be carried out according to the other person's needs, not your fucking pseudo-religious timetable.

That is all.

scarletpeaches
12-04-2011, 10:37 PM
That's nothing. In Scotland, we've had Christmas cards in the shops since September.

Yeah, you read that right. September.

BenPanced
12-04-2011, 11:35 PM
I'll tell you what really ticks me off about this 'charitable deeds' wank.

I'm not going to go into detail, but that's something I believe one should do all year round, if they do it at all.

And when I refuse to give to charity in December, or to pay attention to chuggers and the like, the reaction I get is generally, "But it's Christmas! How can you be so Scrooge-like?"

I deeply, deeply resent these fuckwits attempting to put me on a guilt-trip because I dare say no to them in December.

They probably think I'm anti-charity and anti-volunteering.

No; I'm strongly against both of those when acts of mercy are performed simply because it's the last month of the year. If you're putting on a Christmassy act, then it's all about you. I believe good deeds should be carried out according to the other person's needs, not your fucking pseudo-religious timetable.

That is all.
I read a letter to the editor in the newspaper back home (hello, teh intarwebz!) from a woman who couldn't donate at the time to the Salvation Army and walked by the bell ringer with a smile, a nod, and a "Merry Christmas". He immediately lit into her and started accusing her of being cheap, stingy, and general horribleness because she didn't drop in at least a couple coins.

All of this in front of the woman's child.

So, yeah, you can imagine how she felt on the way out when the guy let her have it again.

Derail aside, where's that link to the Scrooge thread again?

scarletpeaches
12-04-2011, 11:52 PM
I need to go into town again on Tuesday. God, it'll be a nightmare.

Still, better to get it out of the way at the beginning of December, then I won't have to bother with all that 'going out in public' nonsense 'til January.

Thank goodness most of my royalties are paid by PayPal or straight into my bank account. The paper cheques can wait until the new year.

I ain't going anywhere near a shopping mall or the city centre until this tinsel-and-jollity wank is over with.

Ken
12-05-2011, 12:00 AM
... thinking about goals I've failed to accomplish yet again. Not that that'll stop me from making more at the turn of the new year. By now you think I'd have learnt!

heyjude
12-05-2011, 01:09 AM
Wow, guys. I was thinking of how wonderful it is for the kids to get gifts by Angel Tree or similar programs that simply don't exist at other times of the year.

Yeah, I give all year. Many people do. It's something about this time of year--so many people give more. If they can afford to, it's a good thing, in my book.

Ken
12-05-2011, 01:57 AM
In a low-light time of year (northern climes) that's notorious in its own right for causing depression. (S.A.D.), it sure is stacked against us. Ho, ho, ho... But being aware of this, and knowing you're not alone can help enormously. That's why forums like this are invaluable.

... that's true about lack of light. Never considered that. True too about forums like this. Grumpiness aside, it's a supportive community and if anybody is feeling a bit blue they shouldn't hesitate to reach out via PM, rep, or otherwise to other members. It'd be service rendered happily and one with mutual benefits. (My apologies for being serious. Won't let it happen again.)

scarletpeaches
12-05-2011, 01:59 AM
Ken's totally right. Some of my best friends are people I've never met, but I've 'met' them on AW.

scarletpeaches
12-05-2011, 02:41 AM
I've got to give credit to firedrake for putting up with my whinging emails this weekend. Whether it was SAD, money worries, health or all of the above, I don't know, but she was a great help. :)

Lavern08
12-05-2011, 04:25 AM
Ok,

Although I loathe those *seasonal* shoppers, I gotta admit, I do lurve me some Christmas Carols. http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

Silver King
12-05-2011, 05:00 AM
...I believe good deeds should be carried out according to the other person's needs, not your fucking pseudo-religious timetable.
Please let's not be deliberately offensive in this discussion. We all know where the respect line is drawn here, so there's no need to jump across it to see how far we'll land on the other side.

Kathleen_
12-05-2011, 05:08 AM
Ok,

Although I loathe those *seasonal* shoppers, I gotta admit, I do lurve me some Christmas Carols. http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

I love Christmas carols too. Not a fan of most of the modern Christmas songs and so on but I like the good old fashioned religious stuff (no, I'm not religious or old, lol!)

Smish
12-05-2011, 07:07 AM
The question that begs to be asked here is if one is not celebrating the birth of Christ, then what exactly ARE they celebrating throughout December? What is it all about, Santa Claus?

Family? Friends? The closing of another year (and the beginning of another)? Etc.

I actually am a Christian, but I will confess that many of the things I love about the Christmas season aren't directly related to Jesus. I enjoy getting together with friends and family; I love Christmas decorations; I love the candy and cakes and pie (yeah, I tend to gain a few pounds this time of year); I love giving gifts to my loved ones; I love that my cat thinks the Christmas tree is just for her.

None of those things are directly related to the birth of Christ - though I am thankful to God for them.

Silver King
12-05-2011, 07:34 AM
The question that begs to be asked here is if one is not celebrating the birth of Christ, then what exactly ARE they celebrating at this time of year? What is it all about, Santa Claus?
Another question that begs to be asked is why you are trolling this thread? You've made your feelings known a number of times, yet insist on commenting on just about every post that comes down the pike, turning this discussion into an excuse to share your displeasure of Christmas, over and over again while singing the same old song.

We get it. Seriously. We heard you the first time, and the fifth time, and the tenth time, too.

Give it a rest, please, at least in this thread.

Davina M
12-05-2011, 08:02 AM
Another question that begs to be asked is why you are trolling this thread? You've made your feelings known a number of times, yet insist on commenting on just about every post that comes down the pike, turning this discussion into an excuse to share your displeasure of Christmas, over and over again while singing the same old song.

We get it. Seriously. We heard you the first time, and the fifth time, and the tenth time, too.

Give it a rest, please, at least in this thread.

Wow! (LOL) I don't believe my posts were all that repetitive. I addressed different aspects of the topic in each one. I also answered issues raised in other posts. Yet you consider that "trolling?" How very odd. Further, I didn't realise there was a rule here in regard to how many times one can post on a thread, -- 5 times, 10 times? -- I have no idea, so I've deleted all my posts. Also, your contention that I was "turning this discussion into an excuse to share my displeasure of Christmas" is most puzzling, given the title of the thread: THINGS I HATE ABOUT DECEMBER! I was certainly not off-topic at any time. Cheers

Kathleen_
12-05-2011, 08:44 AM
Davina, I think you may have came across as trolling in the last comment because many of us in this thread are from western countries that celebrate Christmas and KNOW what Christmas is about (other than the birth of Jesus thing which didn't happen then anyway). It came across (to me) that you wern't asking a sincere question and just jabbing fun at the majority of people who celebrate Christmas. I'm not saying this was your intention at ALL, just how I read it on the internet with no tone of voice or body language to carry the question.
If you really want to learn about how Christmas is celebrated in countries where it is a secular holiday then I'm more than happy to tell you what I can from the perspective of having lived in two countries where this was the case, but I don't think this thread is the place for it as it's more a light hearted rant about silly things that anoy you in december.

Speaking of which-- having to pee when at work. Yes, seriously. I work retail which means I have to walk a distance of 100 metres (if that) through the shopping centre to the nearest bathroom, but it can take five minutes because of the crowds that like to dawdle. It hurts my knees to walk that slowly! How does everyone do it?

Susan Littlefield
12-05-2011, 09:19 AM
I don't like December because Christmas feels as if it's become too commercialized. From before Thanksgiving, everywhere I turn the stores have an abundance of the Christmas Spirit.

All those Christmas specials on TV.

December is way too cold for me. I want it to be warmer so my poor old bones don't ache (okay, I'm not THAT old, but every year I can tell you when rain is coming before the weather forecaster).

What I do like about December is the Christmas get-together with family.

Technophobe
12-05-2011, 09:39 AM
A few things: the cold, the lack of light, the Christmas fetish everyone but me seems to have (the fact that all the stores put out Christmas stuff the day after Halloween didn't help either), but what really gets me is New Years.

What's the point? Especially the resolutions. If something is important enough to warrant a new year's resolution, why isn't it important enough to get started on right now?:Shrug:

Susan Littlefield
12-05-2011, 10:07 AM
A few things: the cold, the lack of light, the Christmas fetish everyone but me seems to have (the fact that all the stores put out Christmas stuff the day after Halloween didn't help either), but what really gets me is New Years.

It seems the stores start each special day, if you will, earlier and earlier. For example, the Halloween store down the street opened sometime in September this year. Last year they at least waited until early October.

Right before Halloween was over, I believe Thanksgiving was displayed in all the stores.

Finally, Christmas displays came up before Thanksgiving day was even over. I mean, really.


What's the point? Especially the resolutions. If something is important enough to warrant a new year's resolution, why isn't it important enough to get started on right now?:Shrug:

I agree. For me, it's important is to make those resolutions daily and to live my life to the fullest here and now. To give the gift of ourselves, and to receive the gift of others, on a daily basis.

MamaStrong
12-05-2011, 10:16 AM
People who lolly-gag around. Or will be walking with the pace and then stop and not move out of the way. Or those who stand conversing in the aisle...it's like. "B don't make me punch you", ugh!

Cliff Face
12-05-2011, 10:36 AM
People who lolly-gag around. Or will be walking with the pace and then stop and not move out of the way. Or those who stand conversing in the aisle...it's like. "B don't make me punch you", ugh!

Mmm, people who aren't considerate to other shoppers tick me off year-round. There just seems to be more of them in December.

Like today, when there were 4 people walking in front of me, at the same speed as me. Suddenly they all stopped walking, and I nearly barrelled into them. No warning! One of them then turned and walked directly into my narrow path and glared at me.

Sheesh!

I just keep my head down and my feet light.

heyjude
12-05-2011, 03:18 PM
I love that my cat thinks the Christmas tree is just for her.

Ha! The first time we put up our tree after we got our greyhound, he was thrilled. Indoor plumbing! He peed on that thing three or four times before he got the idea that we weren't happy with that. :ROFL:

KTC
12-05-2011, 04:59 PM
We have a posting quota??? Boy, am I in trouble.

Pistol Whipped Bee
12-05-2011, 06:56 PM
We have a posting quota??? Boy, am I in trouble.

I don't know that there's a posting quota, but I think there are boundaries within each thread where it's implied that you communicate what you have to say and then step back. Monopolizing a thread and repeating a position/opinion again and again just isn't cool. It's aggressive and without self-control. Except for the game forums, I see this website as being more discussion (formal) oriented than chat (loose) oriented.

KatieJ
12-05-2011, 07:24 PM
Ha! The first time we put up our tree after we got our greyhound, he was thrilled. Indoor plumbing! He peed on that thing three or four times before he got the idea that we weren't happy with that. :ROFL:

:) Ten years ago, we had to get a replacement livestock guardian dog just before Christmas. We brought her home after dark, and I thought it would be easier to bring her in the house and acclimate her to the sheep in the morning. Big mistake! She had never been in a house before and loved the new indoor forest. All over the tree and the gifts underneath.

Devil Ledbetter
12-05-2011, 07:25 PM
I don't know that there's a posting quota, but I think there are boundaries within each thread where it's implied that you communicate what you have to say and then step back. Monopolizing a thread and repeating a position/opinion again and again just isn't cool. It's aggressive and without self-control. Except for the game forums, I see this website as being more discussion (formal) oriented than chat (loose) oriented.Conversation calls for participation. If AW has instituted some "posting boundary" wherein we are allowed only to "communicate and step back," then AW needs to make that clear in their posting guidelines (http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66315).

I've been here since early 2007 and never heard of such a thing. Based on your complaints about and counting of my posts in another thread recently, you seem to have a strong belief that this is a fact. With all due respect to your beliefs, I'm honestly wondering where you got this idea. I thought the rule was "don't act like a jerk." While monopolizing a thread might be jerky, so too would be taking it upon oneself to declare when another poster has posted "enough" in a thread. The only people who should be doing that are mods, as Silverking in this case has done.

As always it's a mod judgment call, and one we're free to discuss privately with mods if we disagree.

I hope a mod will step in and let us know if there are indeed rules against monopolizing threads (as well as clear definitions of what constitutes monopolization) or posting "boundaries" beyond RYFW here at AW. Is enthusiastic participation in threads that interest us really a big no-no and taken as "aggressive"?


I hope you'll excuse me PWB, since I've already posted a few times in this thread, if I add something back on the topic. Perhaps if you've heard quite enough from me already you could skip the rest (or hey, put me on ignore if you haven't already ... you wouldn't be the only one).


Reading this thread, I think the "commercialism" problem boils down to too many noisy, obtrusive and obnoxious holiday ads, and shopping in crowds. I tune out the ads literally by avoiding commercial media as much as possible this time of year. I know I am lucky to work/live in an environment where I can easily do that.

As for shopping, I have what might be called "crowd claustrophobia." I feel physically sick, panicky and dizzy in a heavy, directionless crowd. (I do fine at concerts and airports, it's just when people are milling around as in shopping that I get this panic.) I try to get the majority of my holiday shopping done ahead of Thanksgiving, or online.

That is all for now. I am sure a mod will notify me if I'm monopolizing this thread. :D

seun
12-05-2011, 07:34 PM
God, you're all so miserable. December is great. What's not to love?

Christmas is brill. And so is Dan Brown. :tongue

Leigha David
12-05-2011, 07:49 PM
I'm a December baby, so I love the month. I just don't like all the commercialism. It kind of kills the enthusiasm I have for the holidays.

Other than that, I can't complain. I'm moreso looking forward to seeing family I haven't seen in a while (quite ecstatic, actually).

Williebee
12-05-2011, 08:48 PM
MOD Note:

This is a thread about December. Here in North America, that usually means it is some form of cold. Chill, folks. :)

NO. There isn't a posting quota. (Other than the 50 you have to hit to start a thread in SYW, that is.)

A bit of careful reading will indicate that a few posts are being misunderstood.

Relax, folks, please. And carry on.

One of the room Mods may be along to decide against that last part. Up to them.

My thanks,
Williebee

KyraDune
12-05-2011, 09:04 PM
It's been raining since Saturday. That's what I hate about December. I wouldn't mind a little snow so long as it doesn't put the power out but I'm sick of all this drizzle.

Samantha's_Song
12-05-2011, 09:27 PM
The things I hate about December, hmm, let me see...

The cold weather.

Boring Christmas. My brother had a coca cola lorry picture thing as his status, I copied and pasted it but redone it so that it no longer said coca cola, it said 'F*ck Christmas' instead. Oh dear, I upset one of my acquaintances and she was ranting about it being Jesus' birthday and all about people who'd died etc. She's no longer on my fl. :D

The zombies that go shopping all day, every day.

My birthday, because it's near Christmas everyone forgets about it, including a lot of my own family, so I don't send them birthday cards anymore either. Hehe. I don't mind being Scrooge for the rest of the year.

Susan Littlefield
12-05-2011, 10:03 PM
See, I woke up today loving December. It's kind of like a day-to-day thing with me, though I would not say I hate any month.

scarletpeaches
12-05-2011, 10:30 PM
...I upset one of my acquaintances and she was ranting about it being Jesus' birthday...It isn't his birthday anyway, so I'm with you on this one. :D

Eczema. Bloody eczema. I thought I was getting away with it this year, but no -- my hands are all cracked and bleeding and my god, is it painful.

PS: I'd like to add the Sally Army TV ads that have just started. It's Christmas, yes, but how about being nice to people all year round?

PPS: I need to go into town to pay a few bills tomorrow, so wish me luck navigating the zombies!

MamaStrong
12-06-2011, 12:10 AM
Mmm, people who aren't considerate to other shoppers tick me off year-round. There just seems to be more of them in December.

Like today, when there were 4 people walking in front of me, at the same speed as me. Suddenly they all stopped walking, and I nearly barrelled into them. No warning! One of them then turned and walked directly into my narrow path and glared at me.

Sheesh!

I just keep my head down and my feet light.

I have a temper that I am trying to control for my husband's sake. However, when people do this to me...I loudly say something like, "Yeah, let's stop in front of people and chat, that's real smart", as I continue towards my destination.

As for donations...maybe I read it wrong later in the thread, but we do that. My husband and I got married five years ago and have been buying one boy and one girl present each year. They normally are about $5 or $10 each. We then take 2 angel's from the tree and turn it all in. Last year and this year our daughter will get to participate. I donate all year long, however it just seems more personal this time of year.

Silver King
12-06-2011, 06:32 AM
...While monopolizing a thread might be jerky, so too would be taking it upon oneself to declare when another poster has posted "enough" in a thread. The only people who should be doing that are mods, as Silverking in this case has done.
You are one of the few members I know of who could say the same thing ten times in a row yet never sound the same twice. Not that I've ever heard you repeat yourself that many times, but if you did, you'd find ways to express yourself so that you didn't sound like a redundant fool.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that it's counter-productive when we beat our opinions over the heads of others while sounding like a broken record, which ultimately turns off our listeners.

I would have had more to say in this post to Davina directly, but apparently she has left the building for good.

Devil Ledbetter
12-06-2011, 06:46 AM
You are one of the few members I know of who could say the same thing ten times in a row yet never sound the same twice. Not that I've ever heard you repeat yourself that many times, but if you did, you'd find ways to express yourself so that you didn't sound like a redundant fool.

The point I was trying to make earlier is that it's counter-productive when we beat our opinions over the heads of others while sounding like a broken record, which ultimately turns off our listeners.Aw, thanks SK!


I would have had more to say in this post to Davina directly, but apparently she has left the building for good.And here I thought PermaflounceTM was a new Proctor & Gamble product for keeping my crinoline stiff.

Another thing I dislike about December is the guilt I feel when I get greeting cards in the mail. I love the cards. I love that people remembered me. I feel terrible that I don't send them out anymore. I haven't for years.

Ol' Fashioned Girl
12-06-2011, 06:50 AM
Hey, SK... long time, no see! Howzit?

And just soes I'm on topic... you know what I hate about December? Short tempers! Yeah. Short tempers.

And you know why? 'Cause mine seems to be the shortest of all. :nods:

Ol' Fashioned Girl
12-06-2011, 06:51 AM
And here I thought PermaflounceTM was a new Proctor & Gamble product for keeping my crinoline stiff.

Sounds more like a product for making your crinoline fluffy, to me. :)

Devil Ledbetter
12-06-2011, 06:53 AM
Sounds more like a product for making your crinoline fluffy, to me. :)Flouncing requires a good stiff crinoline that will swish and rustle dramatically.

Silver King
12-06-2011, 07:07 AM
Hey, SK... long time, no see! Howzit?
Good, thanks for asking. :)

Besides the flounce, we had a series of post deletions in this thread by a certain member. And you know how much I freaking hate when that happens...

Samantha's_Song
12-06-2011, 12:39 PM
Yeah. I replied to her that wasn't he really supposed to be born in October and that Christmas day was already a day of celebration in pagan times. But there ya go, she's one of those religious fanatics from America so it was easier deleting her than trying to explain anythung. :D


It isn't his birthday anyway, so I'm with you on this one. :D

Eczema. Bloody eczema. I thought I was getting away with it this year, but no -- my hands are all cracked and bleeding and my god, is it painful.

PS: I'd like to add the Sally Army TV ads that have just started. It's Christmas, yes, but how about being nice to people all year round?

PPS: I need to go into town to pay a few bills tomorrow, so wish me luck navigating the zombies!

Cliff Face
12-06-2011, 02:19 PM
Oh, I also hate New Year's Resolutions, though that might be a first-thing-in-January sort of thing...

But seriously, I can never stick to the damn things. It's always the same.

I should make a New Year's Resolution to develop some willpower.

Satsya
12-06-2011, 03:09 PM
*hands Cliff Face a large wrapped box* Early Merry Christmas! It's willpower!...I think. Willpower looks like an angry viking with an axe, right? But don't worry, he's friendly so long as you follow your resolutions. :D

What do I hate about December? The bad, cheesy Christmas music, like the stuff pointed out earlier. That it's difficult to find a non-ear-breaking version of "O Holy Night", which is a favorite of mine. And Christmas being forced upon people. I love the holiday myself, but the promotion for it is unnecessarily aggressive.

Cliff Face
12-06-2011, 04:15 PM
Hmm. Maybe I'll give willpower a miss, if you don't mind.

Vikings remind me of someone I'd rather forget.

Devil Ledbetter
12-06-2011, 04:56 PM
That it's difficult to find a non-ear-breaking version of "O Holy Night", which is a favorite of mine. I recommend Jim James singing Oh Holy Night (shoes interruption) at WFPK (http://www.archive.org/details/mmj2001-12-25.WFPK).

This whole 2001 set is a holiday favorite at our house.

Gilroy Cullen
12-06-2011, 06:23 PM
Things I hate about December:

- Mandatory Consumerism
- Squabbles over who's turn it is to see family on exchange day.
- Lack of Sunlight
- The fact that the holiday is no longer confined to its box. (I've seen Christmas trees in stores as early as JULY!!!)
- Idiot shoppers who think they know more than they do. (Symptom of 7 years in retail.)
- Weight gain
- Weather that won't cooperate with my will. IF I want snow, don't give me fricking rain. If I want sun, don't snow!

I can go on...

WriteMinded
12-06-2011, 08:47 PM
I don't like cold. I don't like short days. I'm sick of hearing the same old Xmas songs. What, nobody can write anything new???

I've experienced many memorable Christmases, some for their warmth, love, and fun, some for their sadness, some for family fights and even a wound or two. Now Xmas is quiet and we stay out of the Xmas shopping cauldron. If I had it to do over, instead of the huge amounts of $ spent on toys, I'd buy each of the kids one or two presents. Then I'd take them shopping to pick out gifts for those less fortunate than we were - including the people who lived under the bridge in town - and I would drive them around, so they could deliver them - like Santa Clause does. BUT - I don't get to do it over again, do I?

F word!

Devil Ledbetter
12-06-2011, 09:13 PM
I don't like cold. I don't like short days.
Tell me about it. It's 62oF in my office right now. I'm wearing a long wool sweater and a heavy scarf, and I have my space heater going, and I'm still shivering.

The heating system in our new offices is "unbalanced" which means if I demand the thermostat be turned up, it'll be 90o F in my boss's office. So that's not going to happen.

kayleamay
12-07-2011, 02:17 AM
I LURVE DECEMBER despite the evil influences of The Vern.

It's cold out and there's a chance of snow. The twinkle lights click on at 5:30 because it's dark out by then. I don't have to hear, "I don't want to go to bed! It's not even dark out yet!". I give presents. I get presents. I have six gallons of spiced hard cider, a plethora of butter cookies and a wedge of very expensive cheese. Who wouldn't like that?

Devil Ledbetter
12-07-2011, 06:01 PM
One other thing I dislike is having to keep secrets (for Christmas surprises). I ended up lying more during the month of December than I lie the entire other 11 months of the year put together.

I'm getting my husband an iPhone. I ordered an extra charger cord, and since our Amazon account delivers stuff under his name, it came addressed to him. He opened it. Gave it to me when I got home from work and said "I think that's yours." So I had to make up some shit about how I really needed an extra charger cord at work, bla bla blah. Ugh.

Then I told him I was going to wait at the music store while our daughter had her drum lesson. Another lie. I was off to buy him a membership at the Y.

The other day, I found a booklet from The Guitar Center lying on the floor. I pick it up and see that there is a receipt stapled to the back page. I didn't look at it, but I didn't have to. I know exactly what I wanted from there and so did my husband. Okay, I'm thrilled. Yet I have to pretend like I don't know and fake being surprised on Christmas morning.

It's the worst. You're trying to do all these nice things, and the people you love are doing nice things for you, yet there's all this duplicity that makes me feel lousy.

stormie
12-07-2011, 10:44 PM
.... I have six gallons of spiced hard cider, a plethora of butter cookies and a wedge of very expensive cheese. Who wouldn't like that?
Okay, I'm there. :D

Archerbird
12-07-2011, 10:47 PM
What I hate about December is that I have to stuff my face with cakes and candy. :)

I also hate that there is nothing on the radio but Christmas songs.

Archerbird
12-08-2011, 12:29 AM
And spending money on people I talk to once a year.

BeatrixKiddo
12-08-2011, 03:17 AM
I don't mind December. It's just the chilly temperatures I do mind. Sigh. I miss summer already.


My birthday being two days before Christmas. :rant:

When new folks you meet ask you your birthday, just lie and tell them it's in May. :D



The zombies that go shopping all day, every day.

I would enjoy December more if I did get to witness actual zombies going shopping. Now that, would be cool (and really scary at the same time).

Cliff Face
12-08-2011, 03:46 AM
When new folks you meet ask you your birthday, just lie and tell them it's in May. :D

My birthday's in May. Should I lie and say it's 2 days before Christmas? :tongue


I would enjoy December more if I did get to witness actual zombies going shopping. Now that, would be cool (and really scary at the same time).

I wonder whether the zombies would hang around in the food court, or venture into other stores? Perhaps devouring half a chicken and shopping for skirts?

Brutal Mustang
12-08-2011, 03:58 AM
I hate not having enough daylight to ride my horses after work.

BeatrixKiddo
12-08-2011, 04:01 AM
You have horses???? (no fair)

That's it, now I do have reasons to hate December.
Bah humbug!