Publishing Credits with Student Literary Magazine?

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I had a questions with regards to querying and publishing credits.

I will soon begin querying my YA Dystopian/adventure novel, and I am debating whether I should mention that I have two short stories published with the student literary magazine at the university I attend. One short story is sci-fi, the other is fantasy.

Is it worth putting in, or would agents prefer to see paid publishing credits (while the magazine is selective, it does not pay).

Thanks for any help.
 

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Agents tend to want to see higher profile credits. How prestigious is your university's lit mag? If it's not nationally known, I'd leave it out.
 

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I wouldn't bother putting them in a query letter. It's better to let the project you're querying stand on its own if you don't have any relevant paid credits.

Though I applaud you for the achievement! Go, you!
 

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My agent did not care about a student literary mag if she had never heard of it. And she had not...
 

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If it's a university lit mag that non-students/established writers sub to, then definitely yes. Otherwise, not so much.

You don't need to include any pub credits at all. You just have to bowl the agent over with the novel you've written. Easy-peasy. ;)
 

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I would include it. This isn't high school. University magazines are a bit more picky. Just keep it to one line in your query letter: e.g. My short stories have appeared in (Name of magazine), and leave it at that.
 

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I would include it. This isn't high school. University magazines are a bit more picky. Just keep it to one line in your query letter: e.g. My short stories have appeared in (Name of magazine), and leave it at that.


but if the agent hasn't heard of it, the only thing it tells them is not "I pubbed in 'Anonymia'." It tells them "The closest thing I have to an actual credit is this bit of hand-waving..."

THAT'S why people are saying if it is a no-name you may as well ignore it. if it doesn't impress the agent, it can actually leave small misgivings, instead, and not having a track record doesn't preclude you from selling, so this may not offer enough pro to make up for the possible cons.


*edit: as an add-on, I used to love the Drew Carrey Show. One of my all-time favorite scenes had Ryan Stiles on the couch with something frozen lying on his pants; I forgot why. Drew opens the front door and surprises him, and when ryan hops up, Drew asks him what he was doing. Ryan's answer was "Well, I sure wasn't just freezing my crotch, why?"

I like the scene because it was a great illustration of how what you "say" can actually communicate a vastly different message; in this case, the exact opposite one, in the OP's situation, maybe desperation, perhaps even a bit of duplicity, perhaps reinforcing instead a sense of mediocroty ("thus far, my work proir work has only made it into this place you've never really heard of anyway..") and at best a bit of naivete....all for (assuming this isn't a highly regarded journal, although it may be) no real gain, because the agent doesn't know anything GOOD about this journal.

I'm not completely talking out of my ass here; I assume the same sort of rules apply here as in biological publishing--I may mention my first author paper in Journal of Biological Chemistry because it is considered a "second-tier" or "third-tier" journal, but would not put a publication in "Journal of Lithuanian Biological Sciences" because the only thing that really screams is "this article was not good enough to go into a journal you've heard of....."
 
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I would include it. This isn't high school. University magazines are a bit more picky. Just keep it to one line in your query letter: e.g. My short stories have appeared in (Name of magazine), and leave it at that.

I agree. I don't think it hurts to include the publishing credit because it shows that you are serious about your career and you have written other things.
 

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I agree. I don't think it hurts to include the publishing credit because it shows that you are serious about your career and you have written other things.


1. by subbing to them, you are presumably serious about your career

2. it also implies those other things were not impressive enough to go anywhere the agent has heard of....


I'm still not convinced that's an attribute.