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darnzen
08-04-2011, 01:14 AM
I've started a new e-Publishing company, WritelyDone (http://writelydone.com) that is a little different.

The idea is simple, create a place for authors and freelance publishing professionals to meet up and make books (short stories, poetry, flash fiction, etc. can be published as well). Registration and use of the site is completely free.

I've written several blog posts describing the service.
Overview (http://writelydone.com/blogs/darnzen/writelydone-assisted-publishing-platform-00366)
Features sets for readers (http://writelydone.com/features-readers), writers (http://writelydone.com/features-writers), and freelancers (http://writelydone.com/features-freelancers).
Comparison to subsidy publishing (http://writelydone.com/blogs/darnzen/how-writelydone-differs-subsidy-publishing-00715)
Terms of Use for Providers of Content or Services (http://writelydone.com/terms-use-providers-content-or-services)

To summarize, the author maintains full ownership of any copyrights and grants WritelyDone distribution rights for 15% of the revenue. Any services provided by WritelyDone, such as ISBN assignment, are done near or below cost. WritelyDone only makes money on sales, not from providing services to authors. I'm currently not planning on displaying ads on the site for registered users, so I'm not seeking traffic to drive ad sales.

Now, I've had many people tell me this is an interesting concept, but I need people to sign up and start using the site. There's going to be a critical mass of users required to pull this off. If it works, it can benefit authors everywhere and give them a new choice when deciding how to bring their work to market.

If this sounds good, spread the word! Join the site, post links back to it to help search placement, click as many +1 links on the site you can. If it sounds like a bad idea, let me know what needs to change to make it work.

The site is brand new, and being actively developed, so we haven't published anything yet. The only content on the site currently is public domain titles, to give people an idea of how things will work.

Also, I'm new to these boards and not 100% sure where I should be putting this. If this is the wrong forum thread, please move it or let me know and I can duplicate it in the right spot.

fireluxlou
08-04-2011, 01:21 AM
I'm not sure if you need permission from Amazon to use their image?

darnzen
08-04-2011, 01:28 AM
I don't think so, but I've included a disclaimer at the bottom and have a permission request pending with them.

fireluxlou
08-04-2011, 01:29 AM
Wouldn't it be wise to take the image down until the permission request is ok?

darnzen
08-04-2011, 02:04 AM
Did it make you assume my site is somehow affiliated with Amazon? I've had a couple of people with the same comment as you, but mostly from the "you sure you can do that?" standpoint.

My choice of imagery is not nefarious in any way. I'm using a photo of an object that I own that I took myself. I'm not trying to gain trust by using an Amazon product. It just happens to be the e-reader with the most market share. I thought displaying text on an e-reader was a neat way to give info about an e-publishing site.

fireluxlou
08-04-2011, 02:10 AM
That won't stand up in a court of law, you're still using their image without their permission to promote your product/business. I believe people who use Apple's images and other companies have to pay a licencing fee and request permission so they can use it. Because the company is basically saying it's approved by Apple, it's endorsed by Apple.

It doesn't matter how well your intentions are. It's still using their image, their brand to promote your website. I'd suggest until you get approval as you say you have contacted them, it would be wise to take it down.

darnzen
08-04-2011, 03:07 AM
To minimize any future distraction, since this has come up before, I have cropped the image to be just the screen. I've left the disclaimer at the bottom in case people can recognize it from the fonts.

Bartholomew
08-04-2011, 05:10 AM
The effect isn't what you're going for. It makes the website look unprofessional. If you want to attract writers, you have to inspire faith in us. I'm more than willing to give this some trust if you're willing to go to here (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22) and read up on what makes a market good for writers and what doesn't. Particularly pay attention to what they say about display sites (because this looks like YADS (http://www.acronymfinder.com/Yet-Another-Display-Site-%28writers-display-site%29-%28YADS%29.html) to me.) and why those aren't usually recommended here. Even if display sites are a yet-unrecognized market niche, you're up against some stiff competition with Book Country, backed by Penguin, and Authonomy, backed by HarperCollins.

I'm all for treading new ground, but your concept relies heavily on attracting people to that specific website. A photo of text without any real artistry behind it isn't attractive and it hardly inspires traffic, let alone faith since (even with cropping) the photo is in a grey legal zone.

fireluxlou
08-04-2011, 12:21 PM
The effect isn't what you're going for. It makes the website look unprofessional. If you want to attract writers, you have to inspire faith in us. I'm more than willing to give this some trust if you're willing to go to here (http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=22) and read up on what makes a market good for writers and what doesn't. Particularly pay attention to what they say about display sites (because this looks like YADS (http://www.acronymfinder.com/Yet-Another-Display-Site-%28writers-display-site%29-%28YADS%29.html) to me.) and why those aren't usually recommended here. Even if display sites are a yet-unrecognized market niche, you're up against some stiff competition with Book Country, backed by Penguin, and Authonomy, backed by HarperCollins.

I'm all for treading new ground, but your concept relies heavily on attracting people to that specific website. A photo of text without any real artistry behind it isn't attractive and it hardly inspires traffic, let alone faith since (even with cropping) the photo is in a grey legal zone.

Said all I wanted to say!

darnzen
08-04-2011, 08:28 PM
I stripped it down to just text, I agree the cropped image looked bad. I'll wait to hear from Amazon or redesign the page.

I disagree that WritelyDone is YADS because I'm trying to solve the problem of how to get publishing house support without selling your soul to a publisher. I'm trying to bridge the gap between self-publishing and subsidy publishing. I'm trying to give authors control over content, pricing, licensing and copyright.

A display site is a place to throw your manuscript into the wind and hope some editor or publisher discovers it and decides to publish. Most of them are set up to make money off the authors not from selling the books.

That is the antithesis of what WritelyDone is about. The purpose of WritelyDone is to provide tools that enable independent authors to publish and sell quality product. The sales through the WritelyDone storefront is a big unknown, but it is a non-exclusive arrangement. With support of OPDS, finished product will automatically be injected into standard distribution channels, similar to Feedbooks.

The web site, the landing page, and other visual elements can and will be fixed. The site, and to some extent the concept, are works in progress.

All I'm asking for at the moment is for freelance writers and editors, who are looking for work, or who might need help on a project, to make a profile. It takes a couple of minutes and doesn't cost anything. The best outcome is that you'll get contacted for a job. The worst is that you wasted 10 minutes setting up a profile.

Bartholomew
08-05-2011, 02:33 AM
All I'm asking for at the moment is for freelance writers and editors, who are looking for work, or who might need help on a project, to make a profile. It takes a couple of minutes and doesn't cost anything. The best outcome is that you'll get contacted for a job. The worst is that you wasted 10 minutes setting up a profile.

Well, you defended your position while staying open to critique, which is a genuine sign of competence. I'll make a profile and we'll go from there.

darnzen
08-05-2011, 04:06 AM
I'm not only open to critique, I need it. That's one reason I'm pestering you good people on these forums. I would much rather have input now while I can change direction than in a year when things are cast in stone. I believe that if I can develop the site and business such that it is useful and interesting to the people here, then it will be successful.

Bartholomew
08-05-2011, 10:31 AM
The site let me register as a reader. I'm not sure how to register as anything else. Did I miss something?

darnzen
08-08-2011, 04:40 AM
The site let me register as a reader. I'm not sure how to register as anything else. Did I miss something?

Yes. After completing the e-mail verification, you are forced to change your password. After doing that, just below the password fields on the same form should be a button that says "Create Profile" with some text about how you need to create a profile to be a Writer or Provider. It used to say "Upgrade Account" but some people though that meant there was a fee for doing that.

Click the "Create Profile" button, and you will be presented with a form asking for a ton of information. You only need to select what kind of account you want (writer, or service provider) and enter your name and a short bio. After that, your account will be listed as "Provider applicant." It needs to be manually reviewed and approved before you end up as a writer, provider, or both. The other information on this form can be entered at your leisure, but I recommend adding a photo (headshot) and some marketing links to help sell yourself.

Once you are approved, other options open on your profile. For instance, as a service provider, a "Services" sub-tab will show up where you can select which services you can provide, enter a resume/CV, and select your availability. I've composed a partial list of features for writers (http://writelydone.com/features-writers) and for freelance service providers. (http://writelydone.com/features-freelancers) which was listed in the OP, but I'll put it here as well.

darnzen
09-02-2011, 06:43 AM
The registration process has been changed such that you choose the type of account you want at the beginning, so there's no account approval required. You still need to return to the site and edit your profile to enter your real name and bio and picture and such before you can upload content or edit/sign contracts.

I'm also working with a graphic artist to try to improve the look of the site. If the visuals of the site are giving anyone second thoughts, try to focus on the features and ideas, the theme and graphics will be updated soon.