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Guardian
07-19-2011, 01:41 AM
"Cute" might be relative. We found this little guy outside. Fortunately it's been very warm because he has no fur.

http://i52.tinypic.com/2jbu0z7.jpg

He's very active for a sleepy baby whatever-he-is. He stretches his little legs and makes a big YAWN. But he's a little scraped up, like maybe something was rough with him.

What is he and how do I take care of him? I'm thinking some kind of rodent. Help!

ETA: For now I'm going to say he's a squirrel. Thanks for helping me figure it out, guys. Opossum almost looked right, but I think a squirrel is what we have here. If he miraculously survives and grows up, then we'll find out for sure what he is. Maybe he's a land dolphin!

alleycat
07-19-2011, 01:43 AM
Baby possum?

mirandashell
07-19-2011, 01:44 AM
No idea! It's very long-legged, whatever it is

Guardian
07-19-2011, 01:49 AM
Baby possum?

Hmm... idk. For reference, I live in Maine. That might narrow down some possibilities. And he's only as big as my thumb. Much smaller than the baby kittens my cat has had. I'm worried about even touching him if he might be diseased. :(

Maryn
07-19-2011, 01:52 AM
I don't know how to care for it, but I second the suggestion that it's an infant opossum. It's probably too small to survive away from its mother. I suppose you might try infant formula with an eyedropper.

Edit: here's a pic of opossum mother and child: http://207.223.254.55/site_media/images/animals/Pinky%20&%20Silky%20Opossum.JPG

Maryn, thinking it really needs hair to be cute

tjwriter
07-19-2011, 01:55 AM
It is an opossum. If you Google newborn possum, the first image that shows up looks exactly like your picture.

You might try some dog milk replacement or something. Contact a local vet and see if they are any wildlife rehab peoples who might be able to help.

T, who has a fond spot in her heart for baby opossums after saving multiples babies of the little critters

L.J.
07-19-2011, 01:55 AM
Yeah, look up newborn baby possums under images. I think that's what it looks like.

I also saw in the search an article on how to take care of a baby possum.

sheadakota
07-19-2011, 01:55 AM
definitely a baby possum

http://media.photobucket.com/image/baby%20possum/lesliedover/2362.jpg?o=12

Guardian
07-19-2011, 01:59 AM
Should I take care of it? Or is the risk that it is diseased too great? I don't think I could bear to let it starve, though.

ETA: btw I agree it looks like an opposum. I'd better look into that.

aadams73
07-19-2011, 02:04 AM
It's a squirrel.

http://www.google.com/search?q=newborn+squirrel&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1127&bih=697

Guardian
07-19-2011, 02:04 AM
Shoot, I'm not sure if it is an opossum anymore.

I was reading this guide to raising orphaned opossums http://www.opossum.org/orphans.htm

And then I saw this:

If the pinky animal that you have found was laying in the yard, or has a high pitched cry, or opens its mouth wide, it is probably not an opossum, but these first aid instructions will aid any small pinky mammal until you can get help.

All three of those conditions apply here.

Guardian
07-19-2011, 02:07 AM
It's a squirrel.

I think it very well could be.

I don't know what to do! It's hurt too! But it still seems so very lively. It needs to eat something. Eeeeek. :'(

Guardian
07-19-2011, 02:15 AM
Here's the little guy yawning

http://i52.tinypic.com/10qwkdt.jpg

And here you can see his size compared to a quarter, and also this big wound on his shoulder! Looks like something maybe tried to eat him a while ago. Despite it, like I've said, he's very lively.

http://i52.tinypic.com/261cies.jpg

Uncarved
07-19-2011, 02:19 AM
definitely get some milk substitute and a small syringe with a tube feed, like the possum pic. Then ask a vet what to do.

Uncarved
07-19-2011, 02:22 AM
http://www.squirrels.org/raising.html

Guardian
07-19-2011, 02:30 AM
Thanks for the info. I've passed him back to the neighbor who found him. She was considering putting him back in the grass, but I convinced her not to. Too many cats, and I'm pretty sure the mother won't be coming back for him. Plus I told her that if it's a squirrel, it seems like it'll have a pretty good chance of surviving, so long as he doesn't go hungry. So she's going to try feeding him some milk.

Guardian
07-19-2011, 02:38 AM
http://www.squirrels.org/raising.html

I printed this off and gave it to the neighbor who has decided to take care of the little guy. It seems to have all of the tips she'll need. Now here's to hoping all goes well!

Uncarved
07-19-2011, 03:51 AM
Fingers crossed and keep us posted!

Silver King
07-19-2011, 04:55 AM
It's a squirrel.
I'm pretty sure it's a newborn squirrel also. I've seen them a number of times at that stage of development, and there's simply no hope for its survival.

The mother most likely abandoned it due to its injury, as squirrels won't tolerate feeble offspring.

The most humane way to end its suffering would have been to whack it with the broad side of a shovel; sounds cruel, I know, but not as unkind as a lingering, painful death, which is what the animal is experiencing now, regardless of the best care and intentions of its human handlers.

It would be surprising, miraculous even, if the squirrel managed to survive for more than a few days...

Ambrosia
07-19-2011, 05:44 AM
You should call animal control and ask if there is a wild life rehabilitator in your area. If there is get the animal to them immediately. They are trained to handle these types of cases, and the baby "whatever it is" has the best chance in the hands of a professional.

Guardian
07-19-2011, 06:01 AM
I'm pretty sure it's a newborn squirrel also. I've seen them a number of times at that stage of development, and there's simply no hope for its survival.

The mother most likely abandoned it due to its injury, as squirrels won't tolerate feeble offspring.

The most humane way to end its suffering would have been to whack it with the broad side of a shovel; sounds cruel, I know, but not as unkind as a lingering, painful death, which is what the animal is experiencing now, regardless of the best care and intentions of its human handlers.

It would be surprising, miraculous even, if the squirrel managed to survive for more than a few days...

Miraculous maybe. I just couldn't stand to kill it with a shovel. It already survived an attack by a cat or something. It could survive. If not, at least it was loved and not left outside. *bleeding heart mode*


You should call animal control and ask if there is a wild life rehabilitator in your area. If there is get the animal to them immediately. They are trained to handle these types of cases, and the baby "whatever it is" has the best chance in the hands of a professional.

yes, apparently they tried calling but were basically told that they should just put the animal back in the grass, which pretty much means "let it die".

Ambrosia
07-19-2011, 06:08 AM
Did they talk to animal control or to the wildlife rehabilitator? If it is the former, then call around some vet offices and ask who in the area does wildlife rehabilitation. If it is the latter, they shouldn't be doing the work.

Guardian
07-19-2011, 06:16 AM
I'm not sure, to be honest. It's too late at night to ask them. If it survives to morning, I'll ask them about it.

Silver King
07-19-2011, 06:20 AM
Miraculous maybe. I just couldn't stand to kill it with a shovel. It already survived an attack by a cat or something. It could survive. If not, at least it was loved and not left outside. *bleeding heart mode*
Though I'm not an expert, that injury doesn't seem to have resulted from a cat, which would've put the squirrel out of it misery instantly. It most likely happened due to a fall from its nest, or some other mishap besides predation.

...yes, apparently they tried calling but were basically told that they should just put the animal back in the grass, which pretty much means "let it die".See what I mean?

Whack it with a shovel: quick death.

Put it back in the grass: slow, lingering and painful death.

Guardian
07-19-2011, 06:26 AM
Though I'm not an expert, that injury doesn't seem to have resulted from a cat, which would've put the squirrel out of it misery instantly. It most likely happened due to a fall from its nest, or some other mishap besides predation.
See what I mean?

Whack it with a shovel: quick death.

Put it back in the grass: slow, lingering and painful death.

but cuddle it in a towel and feed it milk = chance of life, even if it's a low probability. The above choices are 100% death! You're going to make me cry and kill my optimism. I know it'll probably die anyway. but but but... *covers ears and hums Ke$ha*

graywillow
07-19-2011, 09:52 AM
I have no idea what it is, but I applaud your efforts, and sure hope that the little guy makes it. Good luck!

Guardian
07-21-2011, 02:42 AM
Aaaaaaaaand it's dead.

Thanks for playing, folks.

Silver King
07-21-2011, 02:51 AM
Sorry to hear that, Dae.

You did all that you could to help the little fellow, which proves that you're a decent person with a big heart.

Guardian
07-21-2011, 03:31 AM
Sorry to hear that, Dae.

You did all that you could to help the little fellow, which proves that you're a decent person with a big heart.

Yeah. It's weird because it was found beaten to death by a shovel. Any idea how that could happen?

/just kidding.

I wish it had lived, though. I was working on building a little laser to strap to its head, and I planned on training it to attack in exchange for peanuts laced with cocaine. All my dreams - dashed! :cry:

Alan Yee
07-21-2011, 03:44 AM
Even if I knew an animal was suffering a long, painful death with little hope of recovery, I don't think I could have made myself whack it with the shovel, either.

Sorry to hear that the little guy didn't make it. :Hug2:

Guardian
07-21-2011, 03:49 AM
Well, I heard that the poor thing was crying all night long before he was found. When they found him, and I got to be with him for a while, he seemed very happy and cuddly. He might have been left in the cold for too long, or too dehydrated, or sick, or anything. Poor dear.

I want another. *shakes trees*

Komnena
07-21-2011, 05:54 AM
Sorry to hear this.

Silver King
07-21-2011, 07:00 AM
Even if I knew an animal was suffering a long, painful death with little hope of recovery, I don't think I could have made myself whack it with the shovel, either...
It's not an easy thing to do, but it's the right one, in my view, if the suffering is great enough and the outcome hopeless for the animal.

And I say this as someone who takes great care to revive and release every fish he catches and won't even kill an insect if he can help it.

My perspective is tainted, however, by how I lost my first dog as a boy. He'd been run over by a car, his back broken and hindquarters smashed. I scooped him into my arms and sat with him until my dad came home some time later. The dog was in awful pain, whimpering and breathing hard.

My dad sat with us for a long time, silent and strong, then said, "It's time, Son."

He took my dog into the back yard, and I went into the house. I knew what would happen; and even at that young age, with the worst anger and sorrow I'd ever felt up to that time, there came a sense of relief I hadn't expected, a knowledge that washed over and convinced me that my dog would be all right and freed from his incurable pain forever.

I felt a similar sense of relief many years later when my dad passed after a long, grueling illness, finally free of his own incurable suffering.

Guardian
07-21-2011, 07:12 AM
:cry: Y U MAKE ME SAD NAU?

Uncarved
07-21-2011, 05:50 PM
I'm so very sorry Guardian.

And Silver: You made the shovel comment better with the backstory. Thank you.

Guardian
07-23-2011, 05:47 AM
you guys!

2 more babies! this time I'm keeping them with me. omgomgomg

Guardian
07-23-2011, 06:34 AM
These ones have also been abandoned for a long time. They seem dehydrated. I'm trying to feed them milk but even though I can tell they are hungry, they don't seem to be taking to it. I have them in a safe cage with some blankets/towels to keep them warm, because they are a little cool to the touch. Gonna take a shower and regroup.

Silver King
07-23-2011, 06:41 AM
Don't forget the shovel option. ;)

Guardian
07-23-2011, 06:50 AM
*cries*

Yes, I'll remember. I was actually treated to a story about how my neighbor killed a squirrel just recently that broke it's legs. He said he stood on top of a shovel to kill it, but when he got off it started breathing again, so he dropped a rock on its head. AGH. That squirrel might have been the mother of this nest. Not sure.

mccardey
07-23-2011, 06:57 AM
*cries*

Yes, I'll remember. I was actually treated to a story about how my neighbor killed a squirrel just recently that broke it's legs. He said he stood on top of a shovel to kill it, but when he got off it started breathing again, so he dropped a rock on its head. AGH. That squirrel might have been the mother of this nest. Not sure.

I really admire you - but I just want to add (not for the present of course, because those babies are yours and you'll want to look after them because hey - they're yours, now, babe!!) that in a crisis such as this, it's often wisest to drive the little critter to another state, find a smallish child and hand the problem to them. Children have a wide range of people who will know what to do with baby critters. Plus it will be in another state.

Guardian
07-23-2011, 07:07 AM
Hahaha. Well, I'm still a sort of child. I just feel compelled because you know, squirrels are so super endangered and if these babies die, well, they'll go the way of the dodo! :P

mccardey
07-23-2011, 07:10 AM
Hahaha. Well, I'm still a sort of child. I just feel compelled because you know, squirrels are so super endangered and if these babies die, well, they'll go the way of the dodo! :P

Yes, of course - it's different with these babies.... For one thing they're so cute (such a lie, but you know it's hard to be any more direct about people's babies....)

In all honesty - I do admire you. I'm going to send you another rep point. I live in dread of finding small furry things that need rescuing...

Guardian
07-23-2011, 07:27 AM
Aw. But I'm being stupid in countless ways, which I'm sure even you recognize. And yeah, I hate human babies but these are... aw. Now I know how mothers feel, and it makes me wanna puke.

mccardey
07-23-2011, 07:29 AM
Aw. But I'm being stupid in countless ways, which I'm sure even you recognize. And yeah, I hate human babies but these are... aw. Now I know how mothers feel, and it makes me wanna puke.

:roll:

Made me snort coffee. You're adorable. Also incorrigible.

mccardey
07-23-2011, 07:41 AM
I just thought of something. You're username is Guardian. And you're, like, being a Guardian. So I take it back about finding a small child - you're clearly the right person.

Only - wash your hands before and after you touch the critters. For all of you.

I feel another rep point coming your way....

Guardian
07-23-2011, 08:11 AM
Yes, I'm washing my hands a lot. Especially since I just cleaned up poo. :P

Guardian
07-24-2011, 06:22 AM
VICTORY!

The babies did not die in my care. However, they were still dehydrated and not doing so well. I found a local animal rahbilitator and she came to pick them up. She said, "How did you find my number?" I said, "Google." Considering she actually has SQUIRREL formula at home, I think they are in good hands.

Alan Yee
07-24-2011, 08:53 AM
Squirrel formula to the rescue!

Ambrosia
07-25-2011, 02:48 AM
VICTORY!

The babies did not die in my care. However, they were still dehydrated and not doing so well. I found a local animal rahbilitator and she came to pick them up. She said, "How did you find my number?" I said, "Google." Considering she actually has SQUIRREL formula at home, I think they are in good hands.

I am so glad you found a wildlife rehabilitator and got the new ones to her. That is their best chance of survival. Good job.

Guardian
07-25-2011, 07:09 AM
I received this email from the wildlife rehabilitator who kindly took my 2 babies last night:


Well just to let you know....they were hydrated, ate 1 tsp of formula, went potty and curled up on a blanket in their incubator and went to sleep....they are both doing well...they both ate like little pigs...

Thank you very much for you love of animals...I'm so glad! They'll become excellent squirrels! Oh, and she told me they were red squirrels. Let's have a short photo party.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/3048934340_b877f9ab88.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/elainehodgson/3048934340/)
red squirrel 1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/elainehodgson/3048934340/) by elaine's life in images (http://www.flickr.com/people/elainehodgson/), on Flickr
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[URL="http://www.flickr.com/photos/nghall/5107021768/"]http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1198/5107021768_9eaf2719b8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nisbetpix/145159667/)
Red squirrel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/nghall/5107021768/) by Nhall2008 (http://www.flickr.com/people/nghall/), on Flickr

And to think some of you didn't think they were so cute! Ugly duckling syndrome, my fellow AW members. You guys of all people should know the cliche'd, "Never judge a book by its cover." Tsk tsk. ;)

thothguard51
07-25-2011, 07:33 AM
A squirrel ain't nothing but a tree rat. They will eat the wiring in your car...

Guardian
07-25-2011, 08:03 AM
Shh. Squirrels are sacred, dearly endangered creatures.

Cernex
07-25-2011, 08:40 AM
Shh. Squirrels are sacred, dearly endangered creatures.

Squirrels are sacred, dearly endangered AND cute creatures. Let's not forget cute, :3

And funny... sometimes.