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The Backward OX
05-26-2011, 04:39 AM
I’m seeking information regarding the name of an existing (housing development?) feature situated in London, England. I read about it somewhere. My only recollection is that it may be a completely self-contained and older style village totally surrounded by, or even walled off from, “more highly developed” urbanisation, and that its out-of-place or incongruous setting surprises those not previously aware of its existence.

I know it’s not much to go on. Hours spent googling have produced nothing.

waylander
05-26-2011, 10:50 AM
Dulwich?

The Backward OX
05-26-2011, 11:26 AM
Dulwich?

Well, no, I don’t think it was Dulwich, of which I had heard, but knew nothing. However, having now read up on Dulwich, and if anything substantive fails to turn up regarding my “missing” feature, I may use parts of its general profile as a template for something similar I have in mind for my present WIP. Thanks.

AVS
05-26-2011, 12:04 PM
Try Holly Village Highgate (N6) London. A collection of gothic houses.

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/darbishire/1.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/3316544/Gateway-to-another-world.html


Good luck.

The Backward OX
05-26-2011, 02:49 PM
Try Holly Village Highgate (N6) London. A collection of gothic houses.

http://www.victorianweb.org/art/architecture/darbishire/1.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/3316544/Gateway-to-another-world.html


Good luck.
I don't think this was it either, but it looks to have potential as a model. Thanks.

crunchyblanket
05-26-2011, 04:03 PM
This sounds a bit like Wapping, but there are a few places in London it might be. Maybe the Peabody Estate?

Buffysquirrel
05-26-2011, 04:08 PM
I immediately thought of Swiss Cottage, but crunchyblanket is right. Lots of places it could be.

Zelenka
05-26-2011, 04:54 PM
I've read a very similar description of Clerkenwell. Could be that?

crunchyblanket
05-26-2011, 04:55 PM
Ooh, possibly Crouch End?

The Backward OX
05-26-2011, 06:02 PM
This sounds a bit like Wapping
Wapping? Wapping?

Steve Collins
05-26-2011, 06:10 PM
Could it be Swiss Cottage? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Cottage

crunchyblanket
05-26-2011, 11:56 PM
Wapping? Wapping?

Wapping.

lachel
05-27-2011, 05:03 AM
Gospel Oak sprang to mind?

Priene
05-27-2011, 10:27 AM
I thought of Hampstead.

The Backward OX
05-27-2011, 10:42 AM
I might just recap at this point. What I remember of what I had read is that this ďfeatureĒ is both smallish and, given its location, something of an oddity - itís out of place, in other words. For example, a full medieval village completely cut off from and surrounded by modern urbanisation. Itís not that, but hopefully youíll see what I mean. Suggestions for such general areas as Wapping and Hampstead and Clerkenwell donít fit that specification, sorry.

firedrake
05-27-2011, 10:47 AM
The thing is that London is made up of a whole load of separate boroughs that were once villages. All of the ones suggested on this thread started out that way.
I can't think of anywhere that fits your latest description. There's certainly streets here and there, little 17th/18th century mews tucked behind a high street somewhere.

I'm stumped.

lachel
05-27-2011, 02:48 PM
There are only 2 pre-Elizabethan houses that survive in London... I remember reading that in a guidebook once, LOL. One is a manor house that is on the way outskirts: very suburban/rural, and I can't remember what the other one is.

So if it was posed as an authentic medieval village, I think that it was fictional. There are, as firedrake says, lots of little streets tucked away that sometimes it seems like time has forgotten. However, those are usually from the 18th century.

There are lots and lots of little pockets that go ba n

skylark
05-28-2011, 12:30 PM
What do you mean by "cut off from"? If there was some sort of a specific physical barrier, people might remember that. A loop in a river, maybe?

Like other people have said, there are dozens of old village centres which are now part of London.

The Backward OX
05-28-2011, 12:47 PM
What do you mean by "cut off from"? If there was some sort of a specific physical barrier, people might remember that. A loop in a river, maybe?


I seem to recall a surrounding wall of some type.

Bigglesworth
05-28-2011, 05:41 PM
Might it be Bow Quarter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_Quarter)?

Bufty
05-28-2011, 06:39 PM
BO, When you say 'London' do you really mean London?

If the medieval village exists you will find it in google - I suspect you are simply not googling the right phrases.

Kenn
05-28-2011, 10:58 PM
It's not Gray's Inn is it? That's where all the lawyers hang out. It is very surprising when you stumble on it and some of the buildings date back to Elizabethan times (I think).

The Backward OX
05-29-2011, 07:18 AM
BO, When you say 'London' do you really mean London? I think it was London. It might have been somewhere else, but I think it was London.


If the medieval village exists you will find it in google - I suspect you are simply not googling the right phrases.
It wasn't a medieval village. That was an example.

Old Hack
05-29-2011, 10:40 AM
Holly Village, which has already been suggested, is a walled community and looks very odd when you find it--there are lots of bland semis around it.