erotiva vs. romantic genres

Senta said:

any advice on how to find EROTICA markets, not romance markets?

(maybe there aren't any?)

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Go to the link below to find a very comprehensive list of curent calls for submissions for erotica - NOT romance. There are markets listed for short stories, novellas, and novels for all types of publications and publishers.

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isn't erotica without romance just basically pr0n?

Mark

Hmm. I don't think so. I think there's a difference in the language used, in the descriptions and the reaction invoked. Soft core versus hard core, I suppose.

What's wrong with pornography? Really?

Romance is erotica if it has sex scenes, so erotic romance is erotica. However as a person who write in romatic and not-so-romantic way I suggest ERWA (see sticky) as a good listing that covers both.

Senta said:

sadly, very many of these turn out to be ROMANCE genre when you look!

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I'm afraid you'll have to point out to me how it is that "many" of these are romance markets - I'm not sure how such markets as "Sex Worker Anthology", "Paranormal Erotica", "Best American Erotica", "Garden of Perverse Delights", "Cthulhu Sex", "Hustler Fantasies", "S.M.U.T. Magazine" and "On Our Backs" - among others - could be romance markets. I've read the descriptions for almost everything on that page, and they seem to be asking for erotica, not romance. Even the novel publishers and e-publishers, who are asking for erotic romance, place the emphasis on erotica, not on the romance. I guess I'm just not seeing the same thing you are. (And I'm not trying to be rude or snarky, I'm just trying to genuinely understand how these markets could be romance instead of erotica. If they are romance, I need to seriously rethink my definition of erotica!)

I also think that this is beginning to suggest romance cannot be erotic. If you only write a certain type of erotica you need to search the markets and follwo a lot fo leads that don't pan out. When listings don't do it for you google does the job. Comibine "submission guidlines" "Paying market" etc with the type of erotica you write. Perhaps you need to search for postive things, the sort of erotica you do write rather than the sort you don't?

If you gave some more details you might get some more specific answers. e.g. length, genre (horrotica, porn, literary) and sexual content (kink, dom, vanilla) etc

veinglory said:

I also think that this is beginning to suggest romance cannot be erotic.

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I don't believe that, and should probably ammend my previous comments to say that some of the submission markets on that site are looking for romantic fiction, albeit romance that has erotic elements. Obviously the two can go hand in hand. But I got the impression that these markets [i.e. ALL of the markets on the site] are being seen as "romance" because they require more than just purely sexual content. I guess I'm not sure what Senta's definitions of erotica and romance are, so I'm not providing much help here. I should probably bow out of the conversation.