FBI releases file that talks about mass cow abductions/mutilations

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

The article includes an FBI file recently released:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rted-southern-U-S-sent-White-House-panic.html

Excerpt:

Cows were sacrificed by aliens sending the White House into a panic declassified FBI files have revealed.

It is claimed that more than 8,000 cows were abducted by UFOs before they were mutilated and thrown back down to earth over the southern United States during the 1970s.

The memo is one of thousands of previously unreleased classified files that the bureau has made public in a new online resource called The Vault.

Interesting, huh? 8,000 cows!

Sample cow:

Poor thing. So cute!

Sarpedon · Apr 18, 2011

Most of the so-called cattle 'mutilations' were simply the result of scavengers, which go for the soft bits first.

I suspect 8,000 cows are a miniscule subset of cows who die of natural causes.

I believe the Straight Dope did a debunking of this some time ago.

Williebee · Apr 18, 2011

Mod Note:

Since this is neither politics or current events, I feel a shift coming.

Hmmm

-- Williebee

Sarpedon · Apr 18, 2011

Difficult choice, isn't it?

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

Williebee said:
Mod Note:

Since this is neither politics or current events, I feel a shift coming.

Hmmm

-- Williebee

But it's recent news, Williebee. Where does that go? Thanks.

Sarpedon · Apr 18, 2011

It's recent news concerning old news.

And here's a link to the Straight dope: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/519/whats-the-story-with-cattle-mutilations

veinglory · Apr 18, 2011

I read all the FBI files in a fit of time-wastery, and concluded it was the generally the rodents wot done it, along with a few other diseases and vermin.

Captain Scarf · Apr 18, 2011

The Daily Mail loves this sort of story. If it's not about aliens you can bet it will be about Nazis.

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

Sarpedon said:
Most of the so-called cattle 'mutilations' were simply the result of scavengers, which go for the soft bits first.

I suspect 8,000 cows are a miniscule subset of cows who die of natural causes.

I believe the Straight Dope did a debunking of this some time ago.

That isn't actually true, Sarpedon. The skin isn't roughly torn, but neatly cut, with a small scale scalloped edge, which no animal or bird can do. Let me see if I can find a photo or two...

WARNING. Some VERY graphic photos follow:

Some samples:
http://www.santafeghostandhistorytours.com/cowm.html
http://www.wtv-zone.com/WebbieLanDotNet/judy/mutilations/cattle.html

This one also shows what is purported to be a (WARNING - THIS ONE IS REALLY BAD) human mutilation case (1994), as well as cow mutilations:
http://humanbookoflife.blogspot.com/2010/08/human-cow-mutilations-by-ufos.html

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

Captain Scarf said:
The Daily Mail loves this sort of story. If it's not about aliens you can bet it will be about Nazis.

They're not the only ones who got a hold of this FBI file. You can see it yourself at http://vault.fbi.gov/

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

Sarpedon said:
It's recent news concerning old news.

And here's a link to the Straight dope: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/519/whats-the-story-with-cattle-mutilations

Recently released news about old news that was never before released. lol

Where should I put it? Thanks.

bettielee · Apr 18, 2011

I thought I saw a show that suggested (suggestion only, not proof, and I don't know which show it was or I would linky) but they suggested the expanding gasses inside the body ripped the flesh neatly.

veinglory · Apr 18, 2011

Smileycat said:
That isn't actually true, Sarpedon. The skin isn't roughly torn, but neatly cut, with a small scale scalloped edge, which no animal or bird can do.

Rats. I assure you it looks exactly like that. Rat teeth are insanely sharp and they chew in a way that leaves a sharply punched, serrated edge exactly like that.

veinglory · Apr 18, 2011

Smileycat said:
Recently released news about old news that was never before released. lol

Where should I put it? Thanks.

I don't know why the Mail is late to the party, but those FBI files have been in the public domain via FOA for quite a while.

veinglory · Apr 18, 2011

bettielee said:
I thought I saw a show that suggested (suggestion only, not proof, and I don't know which show it was or I would linky) but they suggested the expanding gasses inside the body ripped the flesh neatly.

Some of the stomach tears without serration are down to bloat, but the ear, nose and orifice jagged edge cuts can (and have been) well replicated by rodent scavenging. Just as the 'laser cuts' can be produced by dehydration, and the 'weird clear fluid and lack of blood' by decomposition. The lack of footprints is because the rodents are hippies and don't wear big heavy shoes. etc.

KellyAssauer · Apr 18, 2011

*shimmers into thread*

Moooooooooooooooo.

*shimmers out of thread*

bettielee · Apr 18, 2011

veinglory said:
Some of the stomach tears without serration are down to bloat, but the ear, nose and orifice jagged edge cuts can (and have been) well replicated by rodent scavenging. Just as the 'laser cuts' can be produced by dehydration, and the 'weird clear fluid and lack of blood' by decomposition. The lack of footprints is because the rodents are hippies and don't wear big heavy shoes. etc.

goddamned hippy rats

bet they don't pay taxes either

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

bettielee said:
I thought I saw a show that suggested (suggestion only, not proof, and I don't know which show it was or I would linky) but they suggested the expanding gasses inside the body ripped the flesh neatly.

Oh, I remember that. But in some cases the cuts are beautifully made scalloped edges (on a very small scale that you need some kind of magnifying glass to see), which no predator could do with his teeth.

Re: expanding gases - that only happens if conditions are right and if the environment is warm and if it occurs after some time. This does not happen in cold weather or when the animal is found with a few days.

And, let's not forget (couldn't resist using that term), no blood was found. In some cases, it is said the animals were dropped from above. What predator could do that?

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

KellyAssauer said:
*shimmers into thread*

Moooooooooooooooo.

*shimmers out of thread*

Let's have a battle of the 'moo cows!'

I'll start.

http://www.hark.com/clips/tpppqqkvgw-cow-moo

veinglory · Apr 18, 2011

Smileycat said:
But in some cases the cuts are beautifully made scalloped edges (on a very small scale that you need some kind of magnifying glass to see), which no predator could do with his teeth.

Rats, i assure you.

UFO, crypto people are all focused on wolves and bears and other charismatic megafauna. But the pattern they describe and show in photographs is absolutely typical of rodents.

Williebee · Apr 18, 2011

Ah, but maybe it was alien rats! Or little white mice.

Frickin' Hitchhikers.

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

veinglory said:
Rats. I assure you it looks exactly like that. Rat teeth are insanely sharp and they chew in a way that leaves a sharply punched, serrated edge exactly like that.

The vets said it wasn't animals, vein.

http://www.rense.com/general46/manya.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation - check under "Physical characteristics"
http://doctorkoontz.com/Contact/Con...ations/Cattle_Mutilation_in_Alberta/index.htm

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

veinglory said:
Rats, i assure you.

UFO, crypto people are all focused on wolves and bears and other charismatic megafauna. But the pattern they describe and show in photographs is absolutely typical of rodents.

No. Read the reports I posted, vein.

Smileycat · Apr 18, 2011

Williebee said:
Mod Note:

Since this is neither politics or current events, I feel a shift coming.

Hmmm

-- Williebee

Office Party?

KellyAssauer · Apr 18, 2011

T-shirts and office lamps available:

FBI releases file that talks about mass cow abductions/mutilations

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