House Votes To Defund Planned Parenthood

Unbelievable.

Really fucking stupid

I thought we all agreed that we were against the new FCC rules for fear it would ruin our access to porn. I had hippie friends asking me to sign petitions against the new rules and the awful FCC.

RE: abortion

I'm very pro choice, but don't think any tax dollars should be involved in it. At least I'm pretty sure I don't.

Good job today, Republicans.

billythrilly7th said:

I'm very pro choice, but don't think any tax dollars should be involved in it. At least I'm pretty sure I don't.

Good job today, Republicans.

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I'd like to know how many tax dollars that went to Planned Parenthood actually paid for abortions.

Planned Parenthood does much more than abortions. They also provide condoms to help prevent abortions, for example.

I love the notion of "only my version of what is moral is the acceptable one" that some folks have. But I don't have enough money to get my opinion heard in Congress...

Merge? (Maybe not...)

While I do fear the gov taking control of the net, AFAIK, the FCC regs are only about making sure ISPs can't play favorites and keeping them content-neutral. I could be wrong, I can't find any sort of outline for what the FCC Net Neutrality order would actually contain.
Unless I see that happening though, I'll take the formalized net neutrality (as opposed to our current de facto version) over having none.

Celia Cyanide said:

I'd like to know how many tax dollars that went to Planned Parenthood actually paid for abortions.

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I have no idea.

We have a zillion dollar deficit.

This seems like a solid cut. Pay for your own family planning, condoms, abortions etc.

I wish I could be in charge of the budget. I'd balance the budget in about 10 minutes.

billythrilly7th said:

I have no idea.

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Says everything.

Celia Cyanide said:

I'd like to know how many tax dollars that went to Planned Parenthood actually paid for abortions.

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In the first paragraph of the Huffington Post article: "Planned Parenthood does not currently spend federal money on abortion services."

Sarah Madara said:

In the first paragraph of the Huffington Post article: "Planned Parenthood does not currently spend federal money on abortion services."

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Okay. So we're just defunding money for Planned Parenthood that goes to family planning services, STD checks, pelvic exams, and other health care services. Just making sure.

billythrilly7th said:

I have no idea.

We have a zillion dollar deficit.

This seems like a solid cut. Pay for your own family planning, condoms, abortions etc.

I wish I could be in charge of the budget. I'd balance the budget in about 10 minutes.

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It's God's will you're not in charge of the budget. It's bad enough the Republicans are. They have no idea either.

It's a "solid cut" if you don't know diddly about what else Planned Parenthood does.

This is a big win for Rep. Mike Pence, the Indiana Republican whose deficit-minded crusade against Planned Parenthood hinges not on the argument that taxpayer money shouldn't pay for abortions (the Hyde Amendment put a stop to that in the mid 1970s), but on the conviction that taxpayer money should not go to organizations that provide abortion services, regardless of what else they might do.

Pence's plan, which will likely stall in the Senate, would mean the end of federal support for an organization that each year provides more than 800,000 women with breast exams, more than 4 million Americans with testing and treatment for sexually transmitted diseases, and 2.5 million people with contraception, which, not for nothing, is the stuff that prevents unintended pregnancy, and thus abortion, to begin with.

http://www.salon.com/news/abortion/.../war_room/2011/02/18/traister_speier_abortion

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It's like George Carlin said. Republicans love you for the nine months you're in the womb. Once you're out they don't give a fuck about about you.

Since it was a partisan vote, it should fail to pass the Senate. At least I really hope Democrats don't fall for the same exact trick they did with Acorn. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Obama decided to play along with this. You know, for the sake of bipartisanship.

Congress is behaving as though safe sex is a luxury to be reserved for the rich and well insured. This isn't about abortion, which precious little federal funding goes to (if you don't believe that, read up on the "The Hyde Amendment.") Others have already stated what's getting defunded. 33% of Planned Parenthood's operating budget comes from the federal government.

No one should have to ask why people need affordable, safe access to birth control, HIV testing, STD treatment or cancer screening. If this goes through the senate, we will watch the rate of teen and unwanted pregnancies, abortion, STDs, HIV/AIDS and cancer deaths steadily rise.

“Under the guise of deficit reduction, House Republicans are working aggressively to eliminate the Title X program, which has provided lifesaving preventive and primary care for low-income women since President Nixon signed it into law in 1970. Health centers funded through Title X save women’s lives by detecting breast and cervical cancer at early stages, by offering testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections, screening for high blood pressure, and providing immunizations. These clinics also prevent nearly a million unintended pregnancies every year, thus reducing the need for abortion. And family planning also saves the government money — about $3.74 for every dollar invested.

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Source.

What are the chances the Senate will cave on this stuff? On any or all of it?

nighttimer said:

It's God's will you're not in charge of the budget.

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Nah. We need a balanced budget. I'd see that we had one.

You'd be happy in the end.

billythrilly7th said:

This seems like a solid cut. Pay for your own family planning, condoms, abortions etc.

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I hope to God you're taking the piss.

firedrake said:

I hope to God you're taking the piss.

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I don't know what that means.

billythrilly7th said:

I don't know what that means.

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Having a laugh.

You don't really mean what you said.

firedrake said:

Having a laugh.

You don't really mean what you said.

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No, I mean what I said.

Sorry, mate.

billythrilly7th said:

No, I mean what I said.

Sorry, mate.

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Wow.

Cold.

I hope no female relative of yours is never in need of their services.

firedrake said:

Wow.

Cold.

I hope no female relative of yours is never in need of their services.

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Not worried about it.

If Planned Parenthood doesn't have federal funding, you will still be able to get an abortion or buy condoms.

That's all I'm worried about. Once again, I'm VERY pro choice.

billythrilly7th said:

Not worried about it.

If Planned Parenthood doesn't have federal funding, you will still be able to get an abortion or buy condoms.

That's all I'm worried about. Once again, I'm VERY pro choice.

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And screening for cervical cancer, STDs?

How do you propose that people who can't afford healthcare pay for these services?

So adding an extra million people(the number of pregnancies avoided) into the mix, probably mostly to people who can't afford them(or like, they could afford birth control) is going to help the situation...how? It'll make poor people even poorer, won't it?

Or another way to look at it - Maybe they want to cut down on unmarried peoples having the smexy by practising abstinence. I could see that but....even if I'm married, if I can't afford birth control, I'll need to abstain from my wifely duties? If I don't, I then can't afford/or am not allowed to have an abortion. So now I have a baby and I'm even poorer.

So, they want everyone who can't afford birth control to be celibate? Even if they are married and therefore are morally fine with playing hide the sausage? Only people who have the money to afford birth control should the dirty?

I'm fair fuddled. And probably up the duff too.

Devil Ledbetter said:

33% of Planned Parenthood's operating budget comes from the federal government.

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I'd recommend they redirect the money they've spent lobbying Congress into education and fund-raising activities to encourage people to support their activities willingly.

How many people bemoaning this cut have written a check to Planned Parenthood in the last decade... or ever?

Or paid for a less-fortunate relative or friend to get the services they need?