How often does this happen?

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Say I was to submit X to an agent.

The agent responds saying he/she has no interest in X but notes I seem to have some experience or potential in Y.

The agent says he/she will not take on X for the foreseeable future but will take on Y if I am willing and able to do it.

I've heard about this happening several times.

How often does this happen? Do agents often find authors who misdirect their talents? What should the writer do? Should I take what I can get and agree? Should I follow my original plan and try another agent? How does either decision affect the author down the line? Is there a chance that if I agree to do Y the agent will agree to take on X later on?

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I think if an agent likes Y they should like X too. You should ask this agent, what do you see in Y that you don't in X? Cause if it's the writing, I would rethink it. You want the agent to like all your writing to represent every piece of your work. If this agent is that picky, then you might have a problem in the future and can't get out cause you have a contract with them.
 

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An author I know submitted his novel to an agent a few years ago and was turned down, BUT the agent saw something in his work and suggested that he write a novel about one particular theme present in his manuscript - a plot was even suggested! Excited, the author went away and did just that (writing to spec, pretty much) and eventually, many months later, had that turned down too. Imagine writing a whole novel just because an agent asked you to, and then being rejected for it!

Fortunately, while this story didn't have a happy ending, the author's search for an agent did. He ended up getting signed to a big agency a couple more novels down the line.
 

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Thanks for the replies!

An author I know submitted his novel to an agent a few years ago and was turned down, BUT the agent saw something in his work and suggested that he write a novel about one particular theme present in his manuscript - a plot was even suggested! Excited, the author went away and did just that (writing to spec, pretty much) and eventually, many months later, had that turned down too. Imagine writing a whole novel just because an agent asked you to, and then being rejected for it!

Fortunately, while this story didn't have a happy ending, the author's search for an agent did. He ended up getting signed to a big agency a couple more novels down the line.

This seems to suggest that I should just avoid agents who ask for something other than what you submit to them.

Also, concerning my original question; does this happen often? This must be the third or fourth time I've heard about this.
 

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I wouldn't reject the advice. Consider yourself lucky that it wasn't a form rejection and think about it and share the suggestion with other writers you respect.
 

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I think if an agent likes Y they should like X too. You should ask this agent, what do you see in Y that you don't in X? Cause if it's the writing, I would rethink it. You want the agent to like all your writing to represent every piece of your work. If this agent is that picky, then you might have a problem in the future and can't get out cause you have a contract with them.

I could definitely see why an agent would turn down something, particularly if this is a case of nonfiction. I kind of assumed it was from the explanation, however it may not be. But let's say someone has written a book that shows good knowledge, good writing, etc., but is on a topic that's just so completely saturated at the moment that this piece provides nothing new (fiction or non-fiction) and wouldn't sell. However, the author also happens to be a specialist in another field that isn't saturated and would be pretty original (or for fiction, the author, aside from writing YA paranormal vampire romances, also has been writing a series about something less common like leprechauns). I could see how an agent could believe that the second category would be a stronger work with a higher likelihood of making a sale.

That being said, I don't know how common this is, or what would be the best choice for the author. Obviously it's a personal choice.

I don't know if this has any bearing on the situation, but I spoke to an editor once about six or seven years ago who had asked me if I would write a novel with an Amish setting (I have family who are Amish). I had said I was interested, and he had said he would get back to me. He never did, and this is back in the days before I knew about nudging and what not so I figured he wasn't really that interested after all, but I've thought about that before, and on one hand Amish novels, particularly Amish romance are actually selling pretty well right now. Had I taken him up on this, I might have been able to catch the trend that grew out of it and might have seen some earlier success. On the other hand, it's not really my style, so to speak. I like horror and suspense, and those are the kind of stories I want to tell. An Amish settlement having to deal with some demon monster? That's my kind of cool.

Point being, I'm glad I didn't follow up. While I might have been able to sell a few books, I wouldn't have been writing what I want to be writing . Instead I have spent the past few years improving my skills and now I'm at a point where I might be able to find success writing what I enjoy.

So if Y is something you're interested in and something that you want to write, my advice would be to go for it and give it a try. Even if that agent didn't want it, someone else might. But if it would mean setting aside what you want to do in order to potentially get an agent, I would suggest really considering your career and what you hope to gain from it. It's a difficult decision.

Good luck.
 

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I had one agent turn down my fiction but wanted to sell my non-fiction idea, which he did. I had another agent turn down my non-fiction idea, saying it would make a great YA novel. Which it did when it was published.
 

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From what I gather, agents prefer that authors write what they know, if the author's background doesn't seem compatible with what he/she's trying to write about, they feel he/she is not likely to turn out any good quality work. They also encourage authors to take-on non-fiction works if they see the potential.

Would this be a valid assessment?
 

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In general, I think agents feel non-fiction is an easier sell. So if you've got any sort of a platform there, they're interested in more non-fiction from you. But say they know what a few fiction editors are looking for, then they're looking for that too.
 

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I was requested to submit my query and a small sample, which I did. When I received the rejection, the agent said that she did not represent the genre my book was written in, paranormal, but felt that my writing was very strong and requested that I send anything not paranormal that I had her way.

I took it as a compliment and moved on. I knew on submitting that it probably would not have been the right fit (there is more to the story that doesn't apply), but was happy she'd taken the time to consider it.

I don't know if this helps, but this was my experience. Obviously the agent saw talent but it didn't fit into what she sold. My only preference would have been a referral.
 

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Slightly off the point, but I was told that Beryl Bainbridge had a previously-rejected novel accepted after a later one was published. If Y becomes successful, then X (and Z ) become strangely approved of, all of a sudden.
 

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Well, I guess that's what happened to me.
I submitted a memoir proposal to my top agent; he said he liked the writing but the memoir elements didn't resonate with him; could I write less memoir (Y) and more X, (subject of memoir).
Aas it happened, I had been thinking along those lines myself in the weeks since submitting and was only too eager to comply.
I loved the new slant suggested by him and flung myself into a new proposal and sample chapters. Last week he offered representation and I accepted.