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Eddyz Aquila
01-28-2011, 06:23 PM
http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/822867/snooki-makes-new-york-times-best-selling-author-list-with-a-shore-thing

So, Snooki made it to the NYT list...

This gives me great hope. I'm going back to my novel.

Devil Ledbetter
01-28-2011, 06:24 PM
Congratulations, Snooki.

brainstorm77
01-28-2011, 06:24 PM
She's a celeb. I guess many find her interesting. I do not.

Eddyz Aquila
01-28-2011, 06:30 PM
Top rated review on Amazon:


This is by far the best assisted suicide novel I have ever read. I was literally cutting my wrists as every page was turned. Bravo Snooki!!

Made me chuckle.

Susan Littlefield
01-28-2011, 07:23 PM
I don't even know who she is. However, the best of luck to her.

amyashley
01-28-2011, 07:25 PM
I'm amazed at the number of fans of her show who actually want to READ a BOOK. I know a few of them...they are not readers.

cosmia
01-28-2011, 07:34 PM
I love Snooki, but I am never going to go near that book.

Bubastes
01-28-2011, 07:38 PM
I'm amazed at the number of fans of her show who actually want to READ a BOOK. I know a few of them...they are not readers.

Isn't that great? The best part is that some of them might get hooked on reading and buy more books.

defyalllogic
01-28-2011, 08:14 PM
this is why they published the book. so they could put her name on it and sell it to fans and curious on-lookers. if it didn't best sell it'd be a bust.

they had to put her name on something, it could have just as easily been a doll or clothing line or make up or hairspray.

and hey! i love trashy TV AND I read books. Sometimes, at the end of the day, the last thing you want is intellectual stimulation.

Jamesaritchie
01-28-2011, 08:20 PM
Snooki? I had no idea who she was, and I wish I hadn't learned. But best of luck to her.

smoothseas
01-28-2011, 08:22 PM
She's a celeb. I guess many find her interesting. I do not.



Quoted for truth.

amyashley
01-28-2011, 08:28 PM
Isn't that great? The best part is that some of them might get hooked on reading and buy more books.

I do think that part is kind of cool. I hope they read it and KEEP READING. Someone on the article commentary said that. I agree. There are plenty of celebrity-written books out there they can choose from.

Saskatoonistan
01-28-2011, 08:30 PM
There's a book on snooker on the NYT bestseller list? WTF?

amyashley
01-28-2011, 08:31 PM
and hey! i love trashy TV AND I read books. Sometimes, at the end of the day, the last thing you want is intellectual stimulation.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend by my comment. It wasn't intended to be a blanket statement. I'm very anti-TV. I don't watch it at all.

"It's of the DEVIL!" (you, know, like from Waterboy. :))

Devil Ledbetter
01-28-2011, 08:32 PM
I'm amazed at the number of fans of her show who actually want to READ a BOOK. I know a few of them...they are not readers.


Isn't that great? The best part is that some of them might get hooked on reading and buy more books.
I know a Snooki fan who is an NYU grad student majoring in public policy. She's sharp and has a wicked sense of humor. Don't underestimate Snooki's fanbase.

Margarita Skies
01-28-2011, 08:52 PM
Good for her!! Congratulations, Snooki!

DeaK
01-28-2011, 09:12 PM
I know a Snooki fan who is an NYU grad student majoring in public policy. She's sharp and has a wicked sense of humor. Don't underestimate Snooki's fanbase.

Well, now I feel like I can confidently unashamedly only slightly perturbed-ly come out about my Snooki fandom. I will not be reading the novel – why do that, when the real thing's right there, on the TV.

Snooki really has a :heart: of gold (and I mean that, even if I'm sounding a bit conflicted about my fandom)

Oh, and I don't got no degree, but I sure do read me a lot of books.

Phaeal
01-28-2011, 10:18 PM
It's official. The zombie apocalypse has begun. Thank God we have Max Brooks to rely on!

:D

Actually, I'm surprised the Snookster didn't debut higher.

willietheshakes
01-28-2011, 11:09 PM
But then there's this...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/loads-promotion-snookis-book-low-sales-76611

Jamesaritchie
01-28-2011, 11:35 PM
But then there's this...
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/loads-promotion-snookis-book-low-sales-76611

Maybe the majority of the pubic has better taste in books, TV shows, and "people" like Snookie than I feared.

blacbird
01-28-2011, 11:40 PM
Snooki's book making the NYT list has virtually no relationship to anything anybody here gets published, for good or ill. She got there because of her TV reality show notoriety, not because of her literary talent, and people who buy her book buy it for her TV reality show notoriety, not because of her literary talent.

The only possible downside for other writers would be if a book like this tanks, and causes the publisher to lose a lot of money, and use that as an excuse for cancelling contracts to other writers (which HarperCollins did some years back with a disastrous big-advance book on the O.J. Simpson trial by lawyer Johnny Cochrane). But as it appears Snooki's book is selling, that shouldn't be an issue.

Aside from that, Snooki's book doesn't much matter, near as I can see.

brainstorm77
01-29-2011, 02:29 AM
I have nothing against Snookie. I don't follow any celebs.

Rowan
01-29-2011, 02:57 AM
Snooki? I had no idea who she was, and I wish I hadn't learned. But best of luck to her.

I'm...right...there...with...you. :e2thud:

Steph
01-29-2011, 03:05 AM
I am waiting for the follow-up written by her hair poof thing...

stormie
01-31-2011, 04:41 AM
I don't even know who she is. However, the best of luck to her.
She doesn't need luck. She needs a make-over.

Aside from that, she had a ghostwriter. And she's been making enough money from whatever she does to live okay for the next few decades.

If she doesn't spend it all on beer and getting blitzed at the beach.

Margarita Skies
01-31-2011, 04:56 AM
I'm...right...there...with...you. :e2thud:


:ROFL:

Uncarved
01-31-2011, 05:05 AM
She doesn't need luck. She needs a make-over.

Aside from that, she had a ghostwriter. And she's been making enough money from whatever she does to live okay for the next few decades.

If she doesn't spend it all on beer and getting blitzed at the beach.

and fall off bicycles:)

Soccer Mom
01-31-2011, 05:20 AM
I hope the ghostwriter is making enough money to retire and live on a beach somewhere. He/she earned it.

Susan Littlefield
01-31-2011, 05:36 AM
She doesn't need luck. She needs a make-over.

Aside from that, she had a ghostwriter. And she's been making enough money from whatever she does to live okay for the next few decades.

If she doesn't spend it all on beer and getting blitzed at the beach.

Whatever. I still don't know who she is, but only because I chose not to go and find out. Best of luck would be to anyone who got published. ;)

KathleenD
01-31-2011, 09:39 AM
I am still kind of vague on what Snooki is famous for, but I regularly read the DoubleX blog on Slate, and they ran an interview that made it pretty clear who wrote the actual book:

http://www.doublex.com/blog/xxfactor/snooki-drinks-our-sins-interview-her-shore-thing-collaborator

That author's blog is here: http://www.valeriefrankel.com/

So shout outs go thataway :)

Sirion
01-31-2011, 09:48 AM
Jesus wept.

Margarita Skies
01-31-2011, 05:38 PM
LOL @ the fart scene. Poor characters that were next to Gia at the moment. :ROFL: :ROFL:

MarkEsq
01-31-2011, 06:29 PM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but how does she make the NYT's bestseller list while, at the same time, tanking?

Sheryl Nantus
01-31-2011, 06:53 PM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but how does she make the NYT's bestseller list while, at the same time, tanking?

I would suspect it's from the pre-sales...

I can only relate from my own experience working in a warehouse, but books go out in skids and skids before being released. The bookstores pre-order tons and tons of copies in anticipation of a big sale.

About 30 days AFTER the book is released... skids and skids come back in of returned books. So you can have a "bestseller" based on pre-orders going out to bookstores and then have it tank a month later when all those books come rolling back into the warehouse.

I'd expect to see it on the bargain table by spring.

;)

stormie
01-31-2011, 07:06 PM
Whatever. I still don't know who she is, but only because I chose not to go and find out. Best of luck would be to anyone who got published.
She got pubbed because (a) she had a ghostwriter and (b) she's a celebrity. You don't have to know her or who she is. (I mean that is what this thread is about anyway....) It's how she got published.

I'd expect to see it on the bargain table by spring
Agree.

colealpaugh
01-31-2011, 10:24 PM
I A guy who looks just like me once got arrested in the same town and had the exact same charge of N.J.S.A. 2C:33-2.


Thought I'd chime in with that.

elmoie
02-01-2011, 04:53 PM
I hope the ghostwriter is making enough money to retire and live on a beach somewhere. He/she earned it.

You beat me to it - there is no way she wrote it herself.

willietheshakes
02-01-2011, 08:41 PM
Maybe this is a dumb question, but how does she make the NYT's bestseller list while, at the same time, tanking?

Two things come into play here.

First, it's not how many copies her book sells in a week, it's how many copies her book sells in a week relative to the sales of other books in that week. She could sell ten copies in a week, which would be an abysmal failure, and so long as no other book sold ten copies that week, she'd be a #1 bestseller.

Second, it's not how many copies her book sells in a week, it's WHERE they sell. No one knows EXACTLY how the NYT list is built, but it's at least in part a reported list (ie, a set of bookstores submit their sales figures to the powers that be on a weekly basis). So long as her book is a bestseller in those particular stores, she's got a fair crack at making the list.

CaoPaux
02-01-2011, 09:10 PM
The always timely Dear Author looks into what "bestseller" really means today: http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2011/02/01/what-does-bestseller-title-really-mean/#comment-277152

Lyra Jean
02-01-2011, 09:15 PM
I'm amazed at the number of fans of her show who actually want to READ a BOOK. I know a few of them...they are not readers.

Maybe it will get more people to read just like Harry Potter did.

lucidzfl
02-02-2011, 01:16 AM
Sigh so much. That Jersey shore exists at all makes me feel simultaneously old, out of touch, and completely pessimistic about our future.

stormie
02-02-2011, 01:27 AM
Sigh so much. That Jersey shore exists at all makes me feel simultaneously old, out of touch, and completely pessimistic about our future.
No! No! That's not the Jersey Shore! No! stormie runs around AW yelling. (I know you mean the show.)

Anyway, they're just a bunch of actors, told to "amp it up," they do, they get arrested, and then they go home to NY. And do book signings for their ghostwritten books.

Seaside Heights in the daytime is very tame. Even at night it's not that bad. The bars get rowdy but that's the norm in many places. It's about a half-hour south of my town and we did see one taping. We accidently got on one of the shows. I wanted to get by and they were filming. I didn't care; they were in my way. So stormie me pushed through. That footage probably landed on the cutting room floor, next to Snooki passed out.

ETA: Posted in haste, regret it was said. They aren't actors.

Skye Jules
02-02-2011, 06:29 AM
You beat me to it - there is no way she wrote it herself.

She did write it herself. If you look at excerpts from her novel, it's all her. A ghostwriter would have written it MUCH better than she did.

One thing I don't understand is why people think it's so great that fans of hers are at least reading. Assuming they'll read more, it'll likely be more junk novels like hers, and what's that doing? Nothing. They might as well be watching television if they're going to read something like that. Nothing wrong with junk fiction. It has its place, but I just don't understand why people are happy her fans are reading at all.

Most literary fanatics want people to read because it can be intellectually stimulating. Snooki's book...doubt it.

MarkEsq
02-02-2011, 06:39 PM
Most literary fanatics want people to read because it can be intellectually stimulating. Snooki's book...doubt it.

I'm not so sure about this statement, Jules. First, it's not just "literary fanatics" who are encouraged when the normally TV-bound read. It's people like me, who hope they will be turned onto reading and explore the multitude of genre options.
And the reason for that isn't just because it's "intellectually stimulating" it's because, frankly and from my perspective, if everyone stopped watching TV and started reading there'd be a larger market for my books, making it more likely I'll be published and more likely that once published my books will sell.
More than that, I like the idea that people enjoy the same things I do - good stories, well told, using the most of our wonderful language.

Bubastes
02-02-2011, 07:01 PM
She did write it herself. If you look at excerpts from her novel, it's all her. A ghostwriter would have written it MUCH better than she did.

Valerie Frankel is Snooki's ghostwriter:
http://www.valeriefrankel.com/


One thing I don't understand is why people think it's so great that fans of hers are at least reading. Assuming they'll read more, it'll likely be more junk novels like hers, and what's that doing? Nothing. They might as well be watching television if they're going to read something like that. Nothing wrong with junk fiction. It has its place, but I just don't understand why people are happy her fans are reading at all.

Most literary fanatics want people to read because it can be intellectually stimulating. Snooki's book...doubt it.

Um, because some of us write (and *gasp* read) those novels you call junk. There are times when I read for, as you put it, the intellectual stimulation. Other times, I simply want to be entertained without too much brain strain. There's room for all kinds of stories out there.

MarkEsq said it: more readers = a bigger market, which means better sales for us writers. I would love a world with more readers and more people who appreciate a good story.

Toothpaste
02-02-2011, 07:24 PM
Anyway, they're just a bunch of actors



Please don't insult actors :) . They are a bunch a fame junkies who, yes, play for the camera. But actors? Real actors? No. They don't have the talent, the dedication, or the love of acting that real actors have. They are nothing like actors.

Ehem. Sorry. Felt a need to defend my honour :) .

Susan Littlefield
02-02-2011, 07:41 PM
She got pubbed because (a) she had a ghostwriter and (b) she's a celebrity. You don't have to know her or who she is. (I mean that is what this thread is about anyway....) It's how she got published.

Agree.

This is it! I'm becoming a celebrity and getting a ghostwriter!

stormie
02-02-2011, 07:53 PM
Please don't insult actors :) . They are a bunch a fame junkies who, yes, play for the camera. But actors? Real actors? No. They don't have the talent, the dedication, or the love of acting that real actors have. They are nothing like actors.

Ehem. Sorry. Felt a need to defend my honour :) .
Fair enough.

Phaeal
02-02-2011, 08:04 PM
Please don't insult actors :) . They are a bunch a fame junkies who, yes, play for the camera. But actors? Real actors? No. They don't have the talent, the dedication, or the love of acting that real actors have. They are nothing like actors.

Ehem. Sorry. Felt a need to defend my honour :) .

Yup. I've yet to see a reality show with real actors. The real actors are in the TV dramas and comedies that have not yet been killed by cheaper-to-produce reality TV. Thank God.

Though SyFy has permanently lost my business by replacing the brilliant CAPRICA with reality garbage...

stormie
02-02-2011, 08:10 PM
Please don't insult actors :) .
Ehem. Sorry. Felt a need to defend my honour :) .

Posted in haste, regret it was said. They aren't actors. Toothpaste--am I still your #1 user-name fan club member? :D

Toothpaste
02-02-2011, 08:34 PM
Posted in haste, regret it was said. They aren't actors. Toothpaste--am I still your #1 user-name fan club member? :D

lol, seriously it's no biggie. I knew what you meant, that "reality tv" isn't actually "real". I just like me a soap box. Have no worries :) .

stormie
02-02-2011, 08:40 PM
<Whew> Thanks! Didn't want to be replaced as pres. of the Toothpaste fan club. ;)