Lessons Boys Can Learn From Jane Austen?

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So, Austenites, what do you think are some of the best lessons modern boys could learn from Jane's works?

Please cite the novel and why you think so.

(This is for a preliminary book idea I have...not sure if this is the right forum, but let's roll with it ;D)
 

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Probably mostly the same lessons girls could learn...

Not judging based on partial knowledge - P&P
Loyalty and letting go of grudges - Persuasion
Compassion and not choosing the shiny option all the time - S&S
Minding your own business (sometimes) - Emma
It's been too long since I read Mansfield Park. I'm sure there's something...

But in terms of learning to act like the male characters? Tricky. First the boys would have to get stinking rich, and then travel back in time. If they can master all that, they'd probably be better off staying here and enjoying the dental care and sanitation.
 

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... it's funny, but one of the primary lessons in Austen's books (read them all myself) is for men to look beyond class structure and see the inherent value in people when looking for mates. It's a great lesson, except that there's no longer a class structure in many societies. So I guess that wouldn't do. Lots of other lessons to be learnt from her books though. So I'm sure you'll come up with enough. G'luck.
 
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I'm not being a smart aleck (well, not completely), but how are you going to get boys to read Jane Austen? I'm assuming you really do mean boys, not just males in general. I'm sure a very small percentage would, but I think most boys would rather eat a live frog than have to read an Austen book.

I'm not making a judgment about the value of Austen's books (I read some of them, when I was older), just stating an opinion.
 
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I'm sure a very small percentage would, but I think most boys would rather eat a live frog than have to read an Austen book.

Agreed. The lesson the majority of boys would learn from Austen is how much they hate her books.
 

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Don't diss rich relatives unless you're independently wealthy. (S&S, uh oh, Willoughby; P&P, Darcy can diss whomever he likes.)

If your girlfriend puts your most deeply held convictions down, she's not for you despite her sparkliness. (Mansfield Park)

If you're trying to get one girl, don't screw her cousin. (Mansfield Park.)

You're not as clever as you think. (Emma, re Frank Churchill.)

Walking everywhere instead of riding in your carriage like a gentleman will give you great legs and glutes. (Emma, re Mr. Knightley.)

Catching large falling objects, like girls, doesn't always work out. (Persuasion, ouch.)

Don't walk off with your sister's book -- she'll never forget it. (Northanger Abbey.)

Don't propose in a letter, especially when your intended has busybody friends. (Emma.)

Don't make snide remarks about a girl when there's any possibility she'll overhear you. Especially when she can run rings around you, sarcasm-wise. (P&P.)

Steady and sturdy affection may win out over glitz in the end, but only if the girl gets a really bad cold. (S&S.)

Living beyond your means/gambling: These habits really suck. (S&S, Mansfield Park, Persuasion, P&P -- but Trollope is the champion at pounding this truth home.)

Make sure you don't marry a pretty but silly woman, unless you're pretty and silly, too. (P&P; S&S re the Palmers; Mansfield Park, though Sir Thomas seems to have reconciled himself to Lady B.)
 
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That, once they've been convinced to marry below their station for love and raised children to marrying age, their wives will have developed into shrill harpies who obsess about marrying off the favourite daughter (the other ones, meh).
 

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Boys won't read Jane Austen? You all must know different boys than I do, and those boys certainly must be in different schools than we have. Boys here have to read Austen, and those who like reading, like Austen.

What a boy can learn from these books is what a good story is, and how to write one that will outlive them.
 

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I'm not trying to personally get boys to read Jane Austen. It's for a fiction novel

I'm not being a smart aleck (well, not completely), but how are you going to get boys to read Jane Austen? I'm assuming you really do mean boys, not just males in general. I'm sure a very small percentage would, but I think most boys would rather eat a live frog than have to read an Austen book.

I'm not making a judgment about the value of Austen's books (I read some of them, when I was older), just stating an opinion.
 

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Oh. I thought it was for a nonfiction novel. ;)
 

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Meh, I had to read so much about kings and brothers and wars and soldiers in school as a young girl. Of course boys can learn from Austen's writing. It's about people going through what people used to go through. And the lessons are applicable today, as many folks upthread have mentioned.
 

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Ask yourself what lessons *girls* can learn from Shakespeare, or Twaine, or Vonnegut, or other "classic" (white male) writers. Oh, maybe good prose, insight into the human condition, and an appreciation for great stories.
 

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Living beyond your means/gambling: These habits really suck. (S&S, Mansfield Park, Persuasion, P&P -- but Trollope is the champion at pounding this truth home.)

But what if I've already learned how to live well on nothing a year from Thackeray?
 
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