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Dario D.
12-30-2010, 02:19 PM
Just wondering...

shaldna
12-30-2010, 02:20 PM
justy wondering what?

Dario D.
12-30-2010, 02:23 PM
Sorry, the thread gets posted just when you start to fill out the poll.

shaldna
12-30-2010, 02:42 PM
Sorry, the thread gets posted just when you start to fill out the poll.

There was no poll when I commented.

And for us it was before age 10 because we did Echo and Narcissus in P3 as a class play

Mr Flibble
12-30-2010, 02:45 PM
You need a 'I can't remember, it was too long ago' option.

Probably around the time I switched from primary to secondary. Somewhere between 9 and 12? Ish?

ETA: We didn't do a play, but we did learn about Narcissus and that's when I learnt it. I'm pretty sure it was before I left primary school.

alleycat
12-30-2010, 02:52 PM
I actually remember this one. We studied ancient Greece and Greek gods in the seventh grade (Narcissus); I would have been 12 or 13. I'm sure there was an explanation of using the word to mean anyone fascinated with himself.

PrincessofPersia
12-30-2010, 04:02 PM
What's a narcissist?

Marlys
12-30-2010, 05:35 PM
What does your question have to do with school?

Chris P
12-30-2010, 05:48 PM
Sorry, could you repeat the question? I was too taken with my avatar pic and wasn't paying attention.

Dario D.
12-30-2010, 06:04 PM
What does your question have to do with school?
I'm wondering roughly how many people are taught about narcissism, in schools, and at what ages.


What's a narcissist?
Someone who is love with themselves, and thinks they're above others... They're usually heartless, believe they're entitled to superior consideration/treatment, and are often openly evil (given the right circumstances). (if you want to see narcissists in action, lookup "where's the chapstick" on YouTube, and read the comments)

I'm just trying to figure out why it seems like nobody knows anything about them.

Chris P
12-30-2010, 06:18 PM
I'm wondering roughly how many people are taught about narcissism, in schools, and at what ages.

I probably heard the word in conversation, or read it somewhere. I then looked it up. Narcissus was discussed briefly when we studied the Greek myths, but as a character trait I learned it on my own.

Mr Flibble
12-30-2010, 06:32 PM
I'm just trying to figure out why it seems like nobody knows anything about them.

In general? Or here? Or where do people not know?

shaldna
12-30-2010, 06:32 PM
I'm just trying to figure out why it seems like nobody knows anything about them.

Which people exactly?

Dario D.
12-30-2010, 07:01 PM
In general? Or here? Or where do people not know?
In general. (it seems like everyone is friends wirh a narcissist, then surprised when things go sour)

Marlys
12-30-2010, 07:25 PM
I'm wondering roughly how many people are taught about narcissism, in schools, and at what ages.
Okay, that's a lot clearer. I probably learned what a narcissist earlier than 10 from reading, but may not have been officially taught anything about it in school until (a) Freshman mythology (age 14), when we read Greek myths, and (b) Senior-year psych class (age 17), when we'd have learned about the clinical diagnosis.

But it's hard to say exactly--the Echo/Narcissus myth might have shown up in an earlier English textbook.

PrincessofPersia
12-30-2010, 07:39 PM
Someone who is love with themselves, and thinks they're above others... They're usually heartless, believe they're entitled to superior consideration/treatment, and are often openly evil (given the right circumstances). (if you want to see narcissists in action, lookup "where's the chapstick" on YouTube, and read the comments)

I'm just trying to figure out why it seems like nobody knows anything about them.

*facepalm* Look at the last option on the poll.

Stanmiller
12-30-2010, 07:44 PM
Someone who is love with themselves, and thinks they're above others... They're usually heartless, believe they're entitled to superior consideration/treatment, and are often openly evil (given the right circumstances).

If they didn't exist, novelists would have to invent them.

Mr Flibble
12-30-2010, 09:55 PM
In general. (it seems like everyone is friends wirh a narcissist, then surprised when things go sour)

Knowing what it is and recognising it in the flesh are two different things;)

You don't know someone is a narcissist right up till they don't give a shit about something important to someone else (or some other giveaway) It's like the difference between knowing what a psychopath is and a knife to your throat.

I thought you meant literally people not knowing what the word meant.

Besides which, narcissists can be good fun at times - as long as you know not to rely on them.

Jessianodel
12-30-2010, 09:58 PM
I actually remember this one. We studied ancient Greece and Greek gods in the seventh grade (Narcissus); I would have been 12 or 13. I'm sure there was an explanation of using the word to mean anyone fascinated with himself.

Yeah I studied in in sixth grade. My teacher loved Greek mythology. Although I'm positive I knew about it before that...I just put eleven.


Knowing what it is and recognising it in the flesh are two different things;)

You don't know someone is a narcissist right up till they don't give a shit about something important to someone else (or some other giveaway) It's like the difference between knowing what a psychopath is and a knife to your throat.

I thought you meant literally people not knowing what the word meant.

Besides which, narcissists can be good fun at times - as long as you know not to rely on them.

I didn't realize my friend was a complete narcissist until eight grade. She was a little self-absorbed but she was my friend. And then she just started going crazy and vying for attention all the time and I gave up. After graduation I stopped talking to her.

alleycat
12-30-2010, 09:58 PM
Someone who is love with themselves, and thinks they're above others... They're usually heartless, believe they're entitled to superior consideration/treatment, and are often openly evil (given the right circumstances).
Oh, you mean the moderators!








(Just kidding, I don't wanna sparkle.)

Rowan
12-31-2010, 12:32 AM
Oh, you mean the moderators!








(Just kidding, I don't wanna sparkle.)

:ROFL:

kitty is still glaring at me!

Cella
12-31-2010, 12:36 AM
I've looked that word up so many times...

Kathleen42
12-31-2010, 01:00 AM
I actually remember this one. We studied ancient Greece and Greek gods in the seventh grade (Narcissus); I would have been 12 or 13. I'm sure there was an explanation of using the word to mean anyone fascinated with himself.

7th grade, also, though I think it was in English class. We had a short story textbook that included a retelling of Echo and Narcissus.

backslashbaby
12-31-2010, 01:31 AM
We did Greek and Roman mysthology in 4th grade, so that's where we learned about it.

IRL? I usually knew they were narcissists, but they were dramatic and fun! I did misjudge one to a very serious degree, but she was an evil (really) antisocial, too. I thought she was just a little antisocial. Bad, bad mistake.

skylark
01-02-2011, 07:46 PM
I don't think I was ever taught about it. I honestly have no idea when I would have encountered it as a term, though I read the Echo and Narcissus story certainly as a pre-teen.

jaksen
01-02-2011, 11:45 PM
From the mythology story. Read it in school at a fairly young age, possibly younger than ten. (I clicked on ten in poll). Teacher then explained how we got the word narcissist and why the narcissus flower also got its name.

I went to a very good public (American) school. :D

frimble3
01-03-2011, 04:39 AM
I chose '10', probably earlier, we had an anthology of Greek myths for children at home. A couple of years later I ran into a little booklet of plant-name origins that explained that the 'Narcissus' was from the same origin. I don't remember ever being taught about it. Or any of the myths, for that matter. Even when I took Classical Studies at university, they assumed that you knew all the basics already, or could look it up in one of the texts.
'Narcissist' as a personality disorder came much later, and as for why people don't notice? Generally it sort of slides out gradually, you think your friend is in the broad range of 'normal', then little things start adding up. But you tend to shout "Narcissist!" more as an insult than a diagnosis.

BudBoxer
01-03-2011, 05:06 AM
I live in the South, and there are amazing little flowers with a pungent odor called "narcissus" that bloom around Christmas. Some call them paperwhites. Naturally, I was fascinated by the narcissus name, and researched it in Edith Hamilton's Mythology. And an old eccentric gay man in the neighborhood had an amazing bronze of a gorgeous male nude admiring himself. The base was engraved, "Narcissus, 1950." That all must have happened when I was 10 to 12. Years later, I bought that bronze from the man's estate and treasure it to this day.