President of the Quorum takes a Stand Against Gay Marriage

The president of the LDS church came out against gay marriage years ago, and asked his members to give money to the campaign for Prop 8. It's not the view of every Mormon, but it is and has been the official view of the church (since the 70s at least), and it seems to be the view of the majority of its members. This news isn't exactly new.

Stuff like this depresses me.

Oh,shut up.

Not to Timmy,but this dude.

I don't understand this sort of judgmental and quite frankly,obsessive,behavior. These ultra religious types spend all this time in screeching hen sessions worrying about other people and their business. Focus on doing good work and helping others,not worrying about whether two people who love one another want to get married.

Among the statements made, he compares being a homosexual to voting on the gender of a kitten, he states that homosexuality is something that CAN be overcome, and that "we cannot vote against gravity...there are physical and moral laws in place in the world."

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We can't vote against gravity, but apparantly we can overcome things that are just as natural?

Wish I could say I was surprised.

Given the LDS' rich history of modifying their religious documents to changing times, I'd think they'd be one of the first Christian franchises to embrace the LBGT community. Still, traditions die hard, especially amongst the religious and self-pious.

In its past, LDS church members originally practiced polygamy (but only for like 50 years). The US government put major pressure on them in the late 1800s and they changed their official position to be against polygamy.

They also had a racist policy of excluding black people from religious rites and full participation, with the explanation that dark skin was the mark of Cain. In 1978 they reversed this decision (presumably due to cultural pressure), with the official explanation that the church received a revelation that they should change this policy.

They also stopped performing postmortem Baptisms of Holocaust victims (LDS Church believes that they should baptize all of the unbaptized dead, Mormon or not), but they hadn't really stopped, but then they said they would stop again. This was also because of outside pressure, from Jewish groups.

Kitty Pryde said:

In its past, LDS church members originally practiced polygamy (but only for like 50 years). The US government put major pressure on them in the late 1800s and they changed their official position to be against polygamy.

They also had a racist policy of excluding black people from religious rites and full participation, with the explanation that dark skin was the mark of Cain. In 1978 they reversed this decision (presumably due to cultural pressure), with the official explanation that the church received a revelation that they should change this policy.

They also stopped performing postmortem Baptisms of Holocaust victims (LDS Church believes that they should baptize all of the unbaptized dead, Mormon or not), but they hadn't really stopped, but then they said they would stop again. This was also because of outside pressure, from Jewish groups.

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Good grief. I thought I had heard it all.

Kitty Pryde said:

The president of the LDS church came out against gay marriage years ago, and asked his members to give money to the campaign for Prop 8. It's not the view of every Mormon, but it is and has been the official view of the church (since the 70s at least), and it seems to be the view of the majority of its members. This news isn't exactly new.

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The church also supported a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. It passed with 65% of the vote. No surprise there, but the language of the statute went farther than most.

No other domestic union, however denominated, may be recognized as a marriage or given the same or substantially equivalent legal effect.

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Like many states, Utah has a population divided between the reasonably tolerant Salt Lake urban area, with a vibrant gay community, and the rest of the state, mostly rural, intolerant, and arch conservative.

The SLC area is about 50% LDS, with many of them quite liberal, but there are towns in the southern part of the state where church membership approaches 98%.

It is my intention to crush all organized religions that spew bile and hate. I shall not longer be tolerant of the intolerant, whereever they hide.