Wine.

Are the having the wine by itself, or with a meal? If it's with a meal, what are they having? If it's at a restaurant, what kind of restaurant? Some restaurants can serve a wine costing hundreds of dollars a bottle, other retaurants having a less expensive choice.

What is their price range?

ok. Here's the problem. There is too much wine in the world. What KIND of restaurant then? Different resturants will stock different prices ranges. Is the high-end price at this place $20 a bottle, or $200?
I think you need to get your google on.

I'd cheat; I'd go look at restaurant menus online; I'd search for awards like Michelin, and read menus and reviews.

Champagne works as both a starter wine, and a dessert wine, though you'd rarely have it for both.

There are obtainable champagnes like Bollinger Grande Année 2000; it's likely going to cost you around $200.00 in a restaurant.

Before dinner, maybe a French white wine.

Say, a Vincent Girardin Grand Cru.

DaughterOfAthena=) said:

I need to know whats a good wine and whats one of the best. Becuase what happens is the girl just asks the waiter for wine and when the waiter returns the snooty guy shes with thows a fit and says he wants blah blah blah but its has to be a every rich and good wine.

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If he does that in a major restaurant, he'll be escorted out, but you've said he's the owner.

Also; in a restaurant like that, it'd be a sommelier, a highly trained and very knowledgeable professional with expertise in wine and in pairing wine with food.

In high-end restaurants, you're dealing with professional artists, from the wait staff to the sous chefs and comites. It does not pay to screw with them, even if you are the owner.

Go watch a bunch of food shows on Hulu. It's research.

Another question, is this guy a real wine expert, or a poser? A poser might just ask for something relatively well known and expensive, like a Mouton Rothschild.

A Girardin would still work, I think.

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Even it's a small part, better to get it right. And then you also just get to learn. Learning is always fun. When you are of drinking age, you will be able to be oh so impressive.
"How do you know so much about wine?" They will say.
"Well, whilst researching my novel..."
Who doesn't want that to happen.

Chateau Petrus will run you over $2000 a bottle. Although, depending on the year it could go up to over $7000. But I doubt this guy would take a bottle of Petrus out of his stock for just a date.

If the guy owns the restaurant and is just out on a date (the way you've portrayed it is that it is just a date and not a relationship) then I'd say he'd probably not get anything over $100. A Grenouilles averages between $50-$100. A Jordan Cabernet will run around $100. Check out the Napa Valley wineries. A lot of the NV wines are around $100. When he orders make sure he mentions a year, i.e. Grenouilles 2001. The year the grapes were harvested makes a huge difference in the price of a bottle.

The only problem I have with your scene being realistic... If this guy is a "snooty" guy, and he owns the restaurant then he's not going to even bother allowing the girl to order for herself. He'd ask for the bottle of wine.

A more realistic scene might be to have him order the wine. After she takes a sip have him ask her what she thinks and she gives some generic "it's good" or something else simplistic, then have him come back with a "good?" and go into the the wine description.

How about a wine from Francis Ford Coppola's winery along with a comment of how he knows Mr Coppola?
http://www.franciscoppolawinery.com/

There are no French Wines, only french whines, for they are all American grapes.

A lot would depend upon the person, what they would order. It's not so much that this or that wine is really better as it happens to fit your mood better. I tend to like Australian shiraz's, Portugese tawny ports and when I could find it, white merlot (which is really more of a blush). Also true wine is a living system, populated by yeasts. The year will matter, and the season will matter. Unless someone is a vintner or a restauranteur, they won't know what's good now. They might know what was good last year, but by now there's a different generation of yeasts growing in that bottle you saved from 2 years ago.

There really aren't bad wines except ones that have been "fortified" by adding insane amounts of sugar. You can tell those by swirling it in the glass. If it sticks to the glass, don't bother drinking it...unless of course you like that, but then you would have ordered a soft drink.

If I was selecting a wine for a novice I'd probably go with a beaugulaise (that must be horribly mispelled (bozh-u-lay) a soft red reminiscent of grape juice which the novice will find appealingly familiar. A mimosa would be good too, the orange juice will cover the annual variances in the champagne. Champagne by itself is something to avoid. When it is good, it is very good, when it is bad it is very bad.

Just a drive-by thought here as well- If the girl orders something substandard- wouldn't snooty guy/owner correct the order before the waiter brings it? And wouldn't the waiter-knowing the guy is the owner not bring something substandard?

I like pinot grigio (sp) myself before dinner- but then again if its an Italian restaurant maybe a nice Merlot?

DaughterOfAthena=) said:

I am writting a novel and in a part they're ordering wine. Since i am too young to drink. I know nothing of wine. SO what is a good wine? and what is one of the best wines money can buy? Does anyone know? thank you. Please comment

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it depends.

what your eating, what your tastes are, what your budget is. and what the place stocks.

What Medievalist and mgoblue said. If the guy owns the place and it's a high-end restaurant, he would have a sommelier. If he's a snooty guy, I'd consider taking the route that mgoblue suggested. And as others have pointed out, the wines in the restaurant will definitely depend on the kind of restaurant it is.

The wine world is so huge that trying to select a wine that fits into your story would take a lot more research. There are some wines that have snob appeal because of their long histories (e.g., Chateau Petrus, Chateau Lafite), wines people get just for the name even if they know nothing about wine (e.g., Dom Perignon, Cristal), cult wines that are extremely difficult to get because they're made in such small quantities (e.g. Screaming Eagle, Silver Oak), under the radar wines that only people "in the know" know about (e.g., smaller boutique wineries), etc. In other words, if you really want to dive deeply into this, the kind of wine the snooty guy orders can depend on the reasons why he's snooty (truly knowledgeable, poser, show-off, big spender, etc.).

Can you tell I'm overthinking this?