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aspier
08-26-2005, 04:46 PM
Can you see it? Or oops too minimal ? See I got this problem nobody hits my site (except all the members of WRITE of course and that on a regulmar basis and daily, for which my utmost appreciative thanks). I thought making it straightforward minimalistic will intrigue more clickers and I will be hit, oh man, back and forth, and they will hit and come back and hit some more and fame and such will come. Soon I'll be as much of a celibrety as Jenna! And everybody will know me! And they will know when I have my birthday. And they will post nice threads. Same as for Jenna! Somezthings like 'happy birthday wonderful spier! we love you too'. And there would be music on my sound blaster (although I have put off my Active X and emptied the cookie bin aahy aah anyway just a post would be ok etc.)

http://users.skynet.be/spier/

So can you see the page or not? (Those who didn't come into this thread don't have to answer the question, ok?)

Unique
08-26-2005, 04:49 PM
Change it back! Change it back!

You need more 'keywords', Aspier. Maybe that will get you more hits. Ask some techy-writers which keywords to use for your target audience.

Paint
08-26-2005, 05:59 PM
I don't like it either...color or texture please! I agree with the keyword thing. I'll send you a link for downloading a keyword counter if you want. It tells you which keywords get the most hits. I have it somewhere in my files...

I do like your page set-up.
Paint

aspier
08-26-2005, 06:03 PM
Oh no! My! I working on it! But now ... I am going to take a hike into my garden before the sun sets for the week again!

Carole
08-26-2005, 06:06 PM
Eek! Gotta play the devil's advocate now because I love it! Then again, it might be because I am in scale-down mode myself.

Paint
08-26-2005, 06:07 PM
www.goodkeywords.com (http://www.goodkeywords.com) free windows software download. It's kinda fun.

later, gator

aspier
08-26-2005, 06:26 PM
Eek! Gotta play the devil's advocate now because I love it! Then again, it might be because I am in scale-down mode myself.

Carol you are a darling! let's go walk minimal in the grass! Paint now that looks interesting! Why do you surprise me all the time? Next you will tell me you are a painter and having an exhibition! Strange world! Come walk in the grass too and psst don't tell anybody else about this ... yet! I want to be upfront see? First etc. Close to Jenna and so on. Famous like.

Carol - let's go to the beach rather where ther's heaps of you know? = http://users.skynet.be/spier/excerptscream.htm


So: minimal versus texture

Unique
08-26-2005, 09:13 PM
Aspier,

Your poetry isn't minimal, so why have a minimal background? On the other hand, if your poetry were lean, then minimal would probably be a better fit. See?

Mike Coombes
08-27-2005, 01:23 AM
Minimal is good.

aspier
08-27-2005, 01:41 AM
Unique you got a very good point there. It is exactly that point that made me hesitate for months now. You know its so difficult to get that mm uh of the it of it right into the design. The problem with all this is that I am not an artistic designer. I can do a page or two that's eyecatching but to cast a site into one single unit qua design ... and not have it to be boring after the second click AND on top of that really represent one's work with the design is just virtually impossible for me. I got a short brain too and I make the pages one by one. So designing a sjabloon doesn't work. I obted for the 'minimal' approach because I noticed that 'with-it' artists lately do this and also to try and get a better oversight on the opening page. But yes its flat academic now!

Oh why do you have such a good point there! And you stick bij it! 'No minimal' you said and I know after all this reasoning of me you'll just repeat it ... a little bit higher tone of voice now 'No minimal'. Smile! Why, I understand so well what you mean!

And now comes along Captain Coombes. 'Minimal' he says and everybody knows he is talking with authority. Mind you Mike, I too thought about just scratching some cribbles with Microshi(p)t Paint to get that effect.

I think my problem is that I want to be academic but am just a merry joung fool that wants deep at heart only to go for soft awareness, colour and vibrant reciprocation. Play and such. Maybe minimal is too big a compromise for me!

Tnx for the posts!

aspier
08-27-2005, 01:54 AM
Minimal sites?

http://www.marta-herford.de/

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Hoet

http://www.blauwefeniks.nl/forum/messages/208/5359.html?1086210490

http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Artikelindex

Anybody got examples of texture sites?

Unique
08-27-2005, 02:12 AM
Minimal. Very bad minimal. Marta ~ eh, <waggles hand back & forth> Ok, for whatever architecture (or very ugly art) she is.....what? Trying to sell? Trying to make you inspired? I don't know.

But this is shoefic. Entirely new, by you. What do you like? Do you want some froggy looking, 'everyone else is doing it look'? Then by all means - minimal.

Do you display Fabrege` on a table of made of pressboard?
Do you put your 1st editions on a bookshelf made of 2x4's and cement blocks?
Do you wear rubber flip-flop sandals with your Dior gown?

If yes, then -
If not, then -

See the point?

Carole
08-27-2005, 03:27 AM
Carol you are a darling! let's go walk minimal in the grass! Paint now that looks interesting! Why do you surprise me all the time? Next you will tell me you are a painter and having an exhibition! Strange world! Come walk in the grass too and psst don't tell anybody else about this ... yet! I want to be upfront see? First etc. Close to Jenna and so on. Famous like.

Carol - let's go to the beach rather where ther's heaps of you know?

I am amazed at how you are able to complete a picture in my mind with only your words. Many try, few succeed.

I am still a fan of the minimalist. This is my defense: Words. Nothing else is necessary.

(I don't have an exhibit, but I did...and my son does now. Unfortunately his work frightens or disturbs the "powers that be".)

Sarita
08-27-2005, 03:36 AM
I am amazed at how you are able to complete a picture in my mind with only your words. Many try, few succeed. Carole, I totally agree. He's a poet extraordinaire. Just look at this :

Her Anxiety
Earth in beauty dressed
Awaits returning spring
All true love must die,
Alter at the best
Into some lesser thing
Prove that I lie
Such body lovers have,
Such exacting breath,
That they touch or sigh
Every touch they give,
Love is nearer death
Prove that I lie

Argo, I love my page... isn't that all that matters? *wink*

aspier
08-27-2005, 01:22 PM
Do you wear rubber flip-flop sandals with your Dior gown?
See the point?

Oh my god Unique noooooooooo! Yes I see your point. Soon I am going to burst out in tears and loose my stance write here in this write! Grass! Grass! I need more barefoor grass walking write now!

Unique
08-27-2005, 08:37 PM
Nonsense, Aspier. Have a drink of Kool-Aid and a bit of a walk about. You'll feel much better after - promise.

Paint
08-27-2005, 09:39 PM
I like the colors on your beach cream page. Also I liked the Marta "Hallo/Hello" the rest of the links I thought were boring. My friend (with the boots) sells CDs of nothing but backgrounds, photos, on ebay. They do well.

Carol, why is it unfortunate that your son's art is disturbing?

aspier
08-27-2005, 10:56 PM
Tnx Paint - were mm examples but I agree with you. The Herford Museum is a new one build by the same architect who build Guggenheim, Bilbao, Spain. Its in the middle of Germany. Unique also tnx for the encouragement and honest opinion. Its very valuable to me what you say and the krink of the matter is I agree with you. Colour at Tiffany's. I think the problem is that I am trying to run 2 sites in one. = Shoe departement + Academic high class nothing tripe. But I think I have a solution. I will use 2 frontdoors. One top the store for insiders and one for the thousands of professors and publishers that will want to storm my site without having time to waste on beautiful colours.

http://users.skynet.be/spier/ = for nerds

http://users.skynet.be/spier/excerpts.htm = for the lovers who understand about shoes! (I'll work on this door some later)



psst!

* [Then! For those interested and initiated in the art of shoes only - oh this is off the record sure it is! I don't want to get a bad name, ok? Anyway, I went to a flee market today. And what do you guess I found there! And cheaaap! Yes! That! Red shoes! And ... a pair of real solide beautiful handmade snake skin shoes from some exotic land where they love beauty. Of course it was woman's shoes! I'm not an idiot. 10 Euro the two pairs! Ok this is the joy part. When I got home my wife asked me 'why do you buy woman's shoes,' as if looking down on me and not understanding art. I tried 'My god look at them' I said '... eh uh and just 10 Euro! Snakeskin and handmade!' 'Oef' I thought ' passed!' But what do you guess! She just rip them from my fragile writer's hand and acclaimed 'They're my size!'. Oh cruel world! 'No no' I volunteered 'they're old!' But she was fitting them already. 'Oh, they'll look nice with my bell bottom jean!'

Aaah man! What can life be cruel! Now I got to scale them from where she will hide them in the next week or so! They're mine, aren't they? It was me who saw them first! I bought them, didn't I? They are so beautiful! I can fill them with the best of my poems! Snif! Why am I such a bloody nice guy? I mean guy!]

Unique
08-28-2005, 12:23 AM
You need to write a poem about that one, Aspier.

'The Shoe Thief'

aspier
08-28-2005, 12:29 AM
You need to write a poem about that one, Aspier.

'The Shoe Thief'

Sure 'll do soon! Gotta save face, no? Smile!

rowriter
08-28-2005, 08:04 AM
You should put META TAGS on your home page, you may get more hits. (I looked at the source and didn't think I saw any, but I may have just missed them) :D

Here is a quick link if yer interested:
http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/article.php/2167931

aspier
08-28-2005, 12:31 PM
You should put META TAGS on your home page, you may get more hits. (I looked at the source and didn't think I saw any, but I may have just missed them) :D

Here is a quick link if yer interested:
http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters/article.php/2167931

tnx row - I had this before but lately it seems that doesn't really matter anymore but I think I'll do it again, ok? Basically I just want to make a site with clarity and easy access. What do you think of this minimal approach I have now adopted. Like concrete? Nerdish? Boring?

http://users.skynet.be/spier/

Carole
08-28-2005, 04:54 PM
Carol, why is it unfortunate that your son's art is disturbing?
I guess a better way of saying that would be...It's unfortunate for his exposure.

Last year in school, he prepared the entire year for the annual Spring exhibit. His teacher told him the DAY BEFORE THE EXHIBIT that his work was too questionable/unnerving/disturbing and that he would not be allowed to participate. Needless to say, he was heartbroken and I was furious. I love his work and I think he is an exceptionally talented person. Not talented for a kid...talented, period.

After my venting session on the art teacher (we refer to her as the "pretty seashell lady" because that's what she encouraged the kids to paint), he was allowed one painting in the exhibit. It was stuck in back at floor level and when he went to check later, kids had stuck gum all over it. (All the pretty bunnies, seashells and still-lifes were given front & center) Of course, he picked up his painting and walked out with it and was promptly sent to visit the principal because, we were told, he did not have the right to remove it. We would have understood if the teacher didn't know what he was working on, but she saw all these paintings from start to finish. She knew what he was doing, and still waited until the day before the exhibit to tell him.

He's pretty happy at the moment, though. A small neighborhood gallery where his dad lives has some of his work on display. I have stood behind him every step of the way. I think if he were to cave in and only paint what is mainstream, it wouldn't be art anyway because it would be coming from his heart.

3 of his paintings:

http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/frilliesgalore/lot_3/ (http://www.angelfire.com/nv2/frilliesgalore/lot_3/)

Unique
08-28-2005, 05:11 PM
Carole -

I am truly sorry for what happened to your son

Episodes like that are EXACTLY why I homeschool.

Carole
08-28-2005, 05:21 PM
Carole -

I am truly sorry for what happened to your son

Episodes like that are EXACTLY why I homeschool.

I have thought about the homeschool thing, but I have mixed feelings about it. I guess one thing he learned is that just because someone is in a position of authority, that doesn't make them an expert!