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jennontheisland
04-02-2010, 10:24 PM
Yet another romance epublisher.

http://www.etreasurespublishing.com/
(serious issues to sort out in terms of presentation... I'm getting overlapping text, blank boxes, font issues, and scroll bars in weird places)

Apparently this isn't a new press, but an old one that was purchased and had its name changed... don't know what it used to be called and I don't really know if that matters.

Current call for submissions listed on another forum is for a Halloween anthology of vampires and werewolves. *yawn*


Paranormal Romance Submission Call

Do you have a completed novel featuring a sexy vampire tale? A powerful, tormented, alpha werewolf/shifter romance? Anything goes in our latest submission call. We’re looking for the novels that feature what goes bump in the night: ghosts, ghouls, witches and warlocks.

Our ‘Halloween Collection’ is open to anyone with an original paranormal romance, published with eTreasures or aspiring to be. All submissions must be new, original material – we’re not looking for reprints at this time.

• Word count is 45k to 80k
• Sensuality Level ranges from tame to hot (But no erotic fiction please)
• Must contain well developed characters, a solid plot, and have a happily ever after.

Submit your manuscript to submissions@etreasurespublishing.com by May 15, 2010. Send a query letter in the body of the email and attach as RFT the 2-4 page synopsis and first three chapters.

Those selected will be announced on our blog, live journal, and other networking avenues June 15, 2010. The books will be released October 31, 2010.

If anyone has any questions you can email me at ofinkandquille@gmail.com or send me a PM.

CaoPaux
04-02-2010, 10:41 PM
Looks like eTreasures is the original name: http://georgiaswriter.blogspot.com/2009/08/etreasures-publishing-for-sale.html

M.R.J. Le Blanc
04-02-2010, 10:46 PM
There's a lot of that same old hoopla - we're not a vanity, we're royalty-paying, we publish new authors, yada yada yada. It'd be nice to know who's behind it, and if they know what they're doing great :) But this sounds like a very familiar song and dance we've seen many times before.

mlhernandez
04-03-2010, 08:43 AM
Oh wow. That site needs a lot of work. I'm always leery of e-pubs with bad websites.

Jersey Chick
04-03-2010, 07:42 PM
Oy.

And not much (if any - I didn't really see it beyond "loves to read/write") publishing experience.

Quite frankly, I'm not at all interested in the editors' personal lives - I want to know they know what the hell they're doing. Living over a funeral home =/= editing know how.

And the website's scary.

scarletpeaches
04-03-2010, 07:50 PM
It's very...busy.

ETA: And when you have numerous typos on the site, especially on pages talking about their editors...

scarletpeaches
04-03-2010, 08:02 PM
J-Chick, check your reps. Sorry, no Huge this time.

Jersey Chick
04-03-2010, 08:29 PM
:D

Marian Perera
04-03-2010, 09:01 PM
The publisher/owner wrote a paragraph about herself that contained five sentences and five exclamation points.


I love to promote authors and good books and I am really looking forward to enjoying growing eTreasures to the benefit of authors and readers!! I also have a keen eye and handy red pen!!

DreamWeaver
04-03-2010, 09:25 PM
The publisher/owner wrote a paragraph about herself that contained five sentences and five exclamation points.

I love to promote authors and good books and I am really looking forward to enjoying growing eTreasures to the benefit of authors and readers!! I also have a keen eye and handy red pen!! One wishes she would actually use her red pen.

__________________

ETA: Exclamation points are my downfall, too--every time I write a post or an email, I have to go back and take all but one out. But at least I usually manage to find all the extraneous little buggers, even if I have to edit my post three or four times :D.

CaoPaux
01-03-2012, 04:18 AM
Website's improved, at least.

scifiman
09-30-2012, 11:04 PM
I signed my first contract with eTreasures in May. My first science fiction novel, The Wonk Decelerator is currently in formatting and I just signed another contract with them for my second novel, The Late, Great Benjamin Bale (book two of six of these Guild stories). It's true that they are mainly romance...yuck, but they're a great bunch of professionals with a vision for an up-and-coming press, and they are into most genres. The editors are great. I'm happy with the finished product so far. They're definitely a small press that sells mainly from their website, but I never intended to let anyone else hawk my books -- I plan to do that. Give them another look, is my suggestion. Their contract is better than most of the parallel presses out there. They don't have enough of an emphasis on print yet, would be my only negative. Communication has been pretty good to excellent.

michael_b
09-30-2012, 11:39 PM
I checked their stats at Alexa, they have almost no traffic coming to their site.

LaylahHunter
09-30-2012, 11:45 PM
scifiman, when you say their contract is better than most comparable presses -- better in what ways?

triceretops
09-30-2012, 11:54 PM
Conduct doesn't concern me as much as bookstore placement, advances, fair clauses, good editing and cover art and other such things.

tri

scifiman
10-01-2012, 04:03 AM
What I mean about the contract is with the ebook publishers that I also looked at. Pretty decent sliding royalties. I don't like the requirements from ebook to print, but they all have them. You have to sell a very small amount of ebooks to trigger the print. If you are looking for the publisher to sell your stuff, these small outfits aren't for you. If you plan to get out there and do it then it's better than self-publishing.

BenPanced
10-01-2012, 04:21 AM
What sort of distribution do they have? Are they available through the usual outlets?

Jersey Chick
10-01-2012, 04:26 AM
What I mean about the contract is with the ebook publishers that I also looked at. Pretty decent sliding royalties. I don't like the requirements from ebook to print, but they all have them. You have to sell a very small amount of ebooks to trigger the print.

Not all small presses require you to sell a certain amount of books before they go into print format. Samhain doesn't. Wild Rose Press doesn't. All of their books over a certain word count go to print. It isn't tied to sales at all. How many books does eTreasures require be sold before they consider print?

What are the royalties? Are they based on gross or net? (And I can never remember which is which.)

LaylahHunter
10-01-2012, 05:29 AM
I'm turning up a selection of titles available on Amazon in both print and ebook formats, and a smaller selection on B&N available as ebooks, but not as print books unless they're used and being resold. I'd guess that means they're using CreateSpace for their print editions; the prices are also consistent with POD ($12.95 for a 200+ page book).

Seconding Jersey Chick's question about specific royalty numbers -- there are a lot of options in epublishing with pretty generous royalty rates. What kind of a percentage are we talking, and is it gross/cover price or net?

scifiman
10-01-2012, 07:25 AM
My purpose was to point out some of the positives about eTp, because I noticed these negative things posted here. They don't post their contracts so it wouldn't be right for me to say one way or the other. Someone else can address those things, or you can check with the publisher. As for a lack of traffic to the website, come and visit, we'll appreciate the increased traffic. There are talented writers at eTp. I'm sure that there are talented writers at the publishers mentioned above. I'm sure that there are talented writers posting here. It seems to me that you want to find a place where your work fits. That was my approach when I looked for a publisher. There are good people at eTp. I found the editors to be very capable people. You do what you can do and God does the rest. That's the way I see it.

BenPanced
10-01-2012, 07:34 AM
My purpose was to point out some of the positives about eTp, because I noticed these negative things posted here.
Many of them are questions we ask about any publisher, regardless of their history or how long they've been in business.

They don't post their contracts so it wouldn't be right for me to say one way or the other.
We aren't expecting you to.

As for a lack of traffic to the website, come and visit, we'll appreciate the increased traffic.
But that doesn't necessarily guarantee any sales.

There are talented writers at eTp. I'm sure that there are talented writers at the publishers mentioned above. I'm sure that there are talented writers posting here. It seems to me that you want to find a place where your work fits. That was my approach when I looked for a publisher. There are good people at eTp. I found the editors to be very capable people.
But who are the people behind the publisher? What experience do they have in the business? Have they worked anywhere in the industry in the past? These questions are not answered on the site, which is where the information belongs. They can be the nicest people in the universe but if they have limited or no experience working for a publisher, I'd have to pass.

You do what you can do and God does the rest. That's the way I see it.
If only it were that simple.

jvc
10-01-2012, 07:47 AM
Given the choice between working with a publisher who is kind and nice and good people, and one who is able to sell my books and make me money, I'd go with the nice folks every time. Sheesh, who wants to sell any books anyway? Much prefer a hug and a mug of hot chocolate.

Jersey Chick
10-01-2012, 04:20 PM
My purpose was to point out some of the positives about eTp, because I noticed these negative things posted here. They don't post their contracts so it wouldn't be right for me to say one way or the other. There is a standard within the epublishing industry of royalties between 30-40% (sometimes higher than 40%, and it depends on where the book is sold.) It isn't usually a secret. I wouldn't ask an author what they personally earned, but there is nothing wrong with checking to see if this publisher pays what is considered standard or not. Same goes with whether or not they pay gross v. net. It's usually one of the first questions asked.


As for a lack of traffic to the website, come and visit, we'll appreciate the increased traffic. Traffic does not necessarily equate sales. I rarely go to publishers' websites to buy books. That's why distribution questions are asked. If I've never heard of a publisher, what are the chances I'm going to stumble across their website and actually buy something?


There are talented writers at eTp. I'm sure that there are talented writers at the publishers mentioned above. No one is suggesting otherwise. Questions about a publisher are not slams against them or those who write for them. Questions =/= negativity. Anyone with an ounce of sense should do their research and do it as thoroughly as possible.


I'm sure that there are talented writers posting here. Not really sure what this has to do with anything, but okay.


It seems to me that you want to find a place where your work fits. Yes, but where it will sell is equally important. If no one knows you exist, they aren't going to buy your book, no matter how good it is.


That was my approach when I looked for a publisher. There are good people at eTp. I found the editors to be very capable people. You do what you can do and God does the rest. That's the way I see it. Good people do not necessarily make good publishing people. Check the B&BC threads on how many good people publishers imploded in the last 5 years. Go see how many books were caught up in those implosions (Triskelion, Aspen Mountain Press, for instance.) Trust me, it really does suck when your work gets tangled up in a mess because a publisher folds (I was fortunate with the AMP debacle - my books were rescued by Musa, but not every AMP author was so lucky.)

Shayk1951
06-06-2013, 08:10 PM
I can tell you right now that they are the biggest scammers in the business.

In February 2008, I offered them a Sci-fi romance I wrote. They accepted and they e-published it. I KNOW I sold a dozen books or more off the website, yet I never received one dime of royalties. First, she told me she was going to publish my books onto CDs to be sold on the website. That did happen. She told me I could buy copies of the CDs to sell on my own. I bought fifty copies at $1.77 each. For me to recoup my money, I sold them for $3.95 each. I never checked out the CDs before I started selling them. Surely, they can edit everything they sell. *snort*

About six months after the CDs came out, she wanted me to buy 25 copies of my print book. All together, it was going to cost me $175...yes, that's right! One-hundred-and-seventy-five dollars for 25 copies of my book. Again, I figured they had edited the copies. When I told her not no, but F**K no, she told me that she was cancelling my contract and she would send me any royalties she owed me. That was October 2008. I haven't received a single dime from them. I demanded that she send me ALL copies of my book she had available.

After I received it, I decided to rewrite it to re-submit it to other publishers. Of the 300 pages in the novel, 275 of them had typos. Some of them had a single typo, but some of the pages had 2+. I know they weren't on there when I sent it to them after I'd read through the galleys. I read through the manuscript, and then had my daughter read through it just to be sure I got them all.

If anyone from eTreasures Publishing approaches you to publish your ebook, RUN AWAY!

Noman
11-09-2013, 08:43 AM
Pred-Ed: "eTreasures Publishing: An ebook publisher. 2009: Under new ownership."

Filigree
11-09-2013, 09:40 AM
You're kidding, right? Never mind. Pred-ed only notes if authors have written in with complaints. No complaints does not mean 'no problems'. It just means disgruntled authors haven't spoken out yet, for reasons that can stem from ignorance, intimidation, apathy, outright misinformation spread by the publishers, or any number of other causes.

I don't know this publisher. If I were interested in them, Pred-ed and AW would only be one data point in my research. I would analyze their site traffic and look at their sales ranks on Amazon, B&N, and BookScan. I would research the founders for applicable experience, past bankruptcies, and past or current legal troubles. I would check to see what percentage of their current authors have been previously or are concurrently vanity-published, because that can tell me a lot about this publisher's submission filters. I would use internet archive services to look for authors who have left this publisher, and find out why.

At the very least I would look for proof of professional editing, marketing, and distribution, proof of good business practices, and indicators of mental stability in the founders and staff. (No online flame wars, flouncing drama, or fringe beliefs.)

And guess what? I do this for every single publisher, literary agent, or art gallery I consider. Mostly due to the hard, costly mistakes I made earlier.

If this sounds like a background check for a job interview, it is. I spent the time to write something. If I want it published with even a chance at sales, this seems to be a better tactic than random selection, or trusting the feel-good copy on a publisher's website.

Jersey Chick
11-09-2013, 07:08 PM
I also check at Piers Anthony's (http://www.hipiers.com/publishing.html#E1) site as well. This pub hasn't been updated on his site since 2011, but there it cites complaints about payment, but that's it.

They also publish a LOT of different genres.

I'd still pass.

TWErvin2
11-10-2013, 10:52 PM
I have an online author friend that was published by eTresaures some time back. The ebook has been published/available for quite some time (far more than a month or two), and the publisher is very slow to take titles from their site exclusively (for sale) and make them available at other places like Amazon/Kindle.

Researching quickly, some titles (released by eTreasures) they apparently only do as print via Amazon, apparently keeping ebooks available through their site exclusively--in some cases both ebook and print at Amazon, others not on Amazon at all. Not sure what their criteria is to reach Amazon or Smashwords or B&N, but it seems very limiting to potential sales.

BookLover13
02-20-2014, 11:53 PM
eTreasures Publishing was purchased from the old owner in 2010-2011. There are many talented people behind the publishing company and a lot of great Authors. They have a Facebook account as well that has book giveaways quite often.

Also, in regards to the books being limited on other websites, I know that they have someone who is working on those conversions and getting the books more publicity.

I think they are on the rise. :)

Filigree
02-21-2014, 12:49 AM
Glad to hear it. I hope they do well.

alyssabcole
06-17-2014, 11:31 PM
Any new information on this publisher?

TWErvin2
06-18-2014, 01:17 AM
I posted earlier about the concerns not going to other venues.

With the author friend I mentioned, the novellas have shown up on Smashwords, and thus eventually through Smashwords showed up on the Nook. They're on Kobo as well.

A print compilation of three novellas by different authors is on Amazon, but not as an ebook, nor are the novellas, separate, available.

A scan of some of their titles shows not so inspiring sales numbers, but I did a limited search.

Lisboeta1
09-14-2015, 06:35 AM
Any news about this publisher? Last post is from over one year ago. I have been contacted by them and would like to have a bit more info before I make any decisions. Thanks.

Filigree
09-14-2015, 08:08 AM
Did they contact you as part of a pitch contest you entered, or out of the blue? Generally, if it's the latter, run the other direction.

Their current sales ranks on Amazon are absymal: out of nine pages of entries, only three books below 1,000,000 rank. The last four or so pages were mostly works not offered on Amazon, or only by outside sellers (in that eTReasures was no longer publishing them.) I skimmed ten different books. In some, there were grammar and spelling errors in the cover blurbs. First pages varied widely and gave me the impression that editing was still a hit-or-miss game with this publisher. Some books looked really interesting, and seemed well written, but they didn't seem to be making any headway on Amazon. They're all over the place on genres, which is often a bad sign with small publishers (it often means they're still experimenting with markets, and may not have viable experience in particular genres.)

If I cared more (which you might) I'd go check them out on Goodreads to get a better review sense of their books.

Helix
09-14-2015, 08:28 AM
Their covers are uninspiring, as is their editing. Their 'top seller' (http://www.etreasurespublishing.com/categories/Top-Sellers/) currently ranks at #1,173,244 (http://www.amazon.com/Pelagius-Game-Valstain-R-J-Jerome-ebook/dp/B00IZMQUMW/) paid in the Kindle Store.

:Shrug:

Lakini
02-09-2016, 01:39 AM
I got a #PitMad request, and upon further research, decided to go a different direction. They were very understanding and not pushy at all, though the emails contained numerous grammatical and spelling errors that set off some red flags for me.