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cllorentson
04-02-2010, 09:48 PM
I was watching "Secret Window" last night, and it occurred to me that Hollywood always portrays writers/novelists as slightly unkempt, and usually wearing a bathrobe and pajamas.

At first I thought, "What a stereotype!" Then I realized that I also tend to wear a bathrobe and pajamas all day.

Do any of you have a favorite Hollywood Writer Stereotype that you secretly identify with?

My favorite will always be Kathleen Turner as Joan Wilder, the romance novelist in "Romancing the Stone". She wasn't wearing a bathrobe at the beginning, but she was wearing a nightgown, and she lived alone with her cat.

I don't live alone, but for some reason, whenever we watch that movie, my husband goes, "It's you!"

Maybe because of her penchant for mini liquor bottles, too...:)

scarletpeaches
04-02-2010, 09:49 PM
Well...I hate people, and I live in pyjamas. Unkempt? No. But I am rather more fond of the people in my head than the ones in real life.

(Real life = them's the fleshpeoples outside my house, right)?

Claudia Gray
04-02-2010, 09:52 PM
We all seem to need glasses.

And of course I am wearing mine right now.

Bubastes
04-02-2010, 09:59 PM
I'm not sure if this is a stereotype, but the opening monologue to Adaptation made me laugh out loud because it reminded me of the endless yammering that goes on in my own brain. A snippet:


Do I have an original thought in my head, my bald head? Maybe if I were happier, my hair wouldn’t be falling out. Life is short; I need to make the most of it. Today is the first day of the rest of my life. I’m a walking cliché. I really need to go to the doctor and have my leg checked. There's something wrong. Oh well. The dentist called again, I'm way overdue. If I stopped putting things off, I would be happier. All I do is sit on my fat ass, if my ass wasn’t fat, I would be happier. I wouldn’t have to wear these shirts with the tails out all the time; like that’s fooling anyone. Fat ass. I should start jogging again. Five miles a day; really do it this time. Maybe rock climbing; I need to turn my life around.

http://www.whysanity.net/monos/adapt.html

cllorentson
04-02-2010, 10:04 PM
Also with the pajamas,

Jodie Foster as Alex Rover in Nim's Island. She had the pajamas, the bath robe, and severe agoraphobia.

Bubastes: I forgot about that part in Adaptation. That's a gem. :)

scarletpeaches
04-02-2010, 10:06 PM
I wear contacts most of the time but I guess I'd look more intelligent in specs.

gothicangel
04-02-2010, 10:18 PM
I like the character of Alex [Luke Wilson] in Alex and Emma.

Well, it makes me laugh.

willietheshakes
04-02-2010, 11:00 PM
For the record, any resemblance between myself and Grady Tripp -- the profligate, unkempt, surly, dope-smoking, promiscuous writer character in Wonder Boys -- is entirely coincidental.

Phaeal
04-02-2010, 11:31 PM
I like how they were brilliant playwrights in New York, but were tempted away to Hollywood Babylon by the promise of riches. Instead they end up in a seedy room with peeling wallpaper. John Goodman lives in the next room over, but he's actually the devil.

Lyra Jean
04-02-2010, 11:41 PM
Joan Wilder and the fact that once she found love she could no longer write romances. At least that is what it was in the Jewel of the Nile.

gothicangel
04-03-2010, 12:16 AM
I like the character of Alex [Luke Wilson] in Alex and Emma.

Well, it makes me laugh.

I think it's the way that fiction merges with real life.

Midnight Star
04-03-2010, 12:22 AM
The ones I identify with are probably wearing scarves and drinking coffee. I forget exactly where I saw those, but they definitely fit me.

gothicangel
04-03-2010, 01:28 AM
I don't think I've seen one that reflects my life.

I don't think there's much of a market for a character who works ten hour shifts six days a week, studying for a degree and squeezing in writing whenever she manages to stay awake.;)

maxmordon
04-03-2010, 01:39 AM
I like how they were brilliant playwrights in New York, but were tempted away to Hollywood Babylon by the promise of riches. Instead they end up in a seedy room with peeling wallpaper. John Goodman lives in the next room over, but he's actually the devil.

Yes, and then the dad from Clueless, Adrian Monkand Det. Crosetti telling you how bad is whatever you write, it happens to all.


I kinda identify to the lewd stereotype of living more inside my head and in my writing than outside.

Ken
04-05-2010, 10:22 PM
... the only reference to one I can think of was from the movie Sunset Blvd c. 1950. I'm supposing the role (played by William Holden?) wasn't at all stereotypical. Really an intense character study! But perhaps there were some stereotypes in the depiction. A general instability of character, perhaps? Gosh forbid they should feature a writer in a movie who's stable and well-adjusted.

Rose English
04-06-2010, 07:24 AM
Do any of you have a favorite Hollywood Writer Stereotype that you secretly identify with?



I usually identify with one or two elements of the writer stereotypes I come across in films, so much so that I carry it over into real life. Just for a little while. For fun.

Anne Hathaway in Becoming Jane - Was so in love with that film, I went back to handwriting with a fountain pen and had to get a long antique cotton nightie.

Winona Ryder in Heathers - Inspired by her furious uninhibited scrawling in journal. Tried the same (without the monocle). It didn't last long. Being uninhibited I mean.

Johnny Depp in Secret Window - This is me during NaNoWriMo, as much as I can get away with. Hair on end, pjs, sleeping on the couch in the daytime and so on.

Sarah Jessica Parker in Sex and the City - Don't they show her 'thinking' about writing more than actually writing? Except for one sentence per episode. Sounds familiar.

Gwyneth Paltrow in Sylvia - Classic tortured soul. Clutches head whilst trying to write to background of grizzling young children incarcerated in their pack 'n' play. Been there tried that, couldn't write.

...And my favourite, Diane Keaton in Something's Gotta Give. I really do laugh and cry and bounce around in my chair if the writing is going well. Wouldn't say no to the beach house in The Hamptons either.

mario_c
04-07-2010, 08:18 AM
I have to groan whenever one of these "tortured artist" characters opens the fridge and we see they subsist on Chinese food and alcohol. Hello? None of these geniuses figured out how to buy fruit at the corner store, which is way cheaper than delivery slop? It's like the detective who is always widowed, always butting heads with their agent oops, their boss no, no their sergeant, and always always drinking every waking minute. Give me a break.
The one that got it right was Adaptation. I love that. Barton Fink was what Phaeal the Pisces was referring to, more old school and interesting for the dark surrealism the Coen Brothers create but good anyway.
Personally, I wish it was more like Californication where the writer is a player who's constantly getting laid despite his crabby misanthropy. But that's pretty much bullshit. Just FYI.

Chasing the Horizon
04-07-2010, 08:49 AM
Gosh forbid they should feature a writer in a movie who's stable and well-adjusted. I don't think anyone could suspend their disbelief that far. :D

I identify with a lot of the Hollywood writer stereotypes. I hate people, look strange (but not unkempt), have no social life . . . yeah, I'm a walking cliche. Except for the fact I keep spiders instead of cats. But they're big and fuzzy and hiss when they're mad, so it's not that different.

willietheshakes
04-07-2010, 08:51 AM
Personally, I wish it was more like Californication where the writer is a player who's constantly getting laid despite his crabby misanthropy. But that's pretty much bullshit. Just FYI.

Well...

kuwisdelu
04-07-2010, 09:04 AM
Actually, I most identify with Hank Moody....

kuwisdelu
04-07-2010, 09:15 AM
In related news, this thread has encouraged me to buy a bathrobe.


Or I can just keep walking around in my underwear.

Votes?

Chasing the Horizon
04-07-2010, 09:33 AM
In related news, this thread has encouraged me to buy a bathrobe.


Or I can just keep walking around in my underwear.

Votes?
Hmm. Perhaps you should make a poll, with pictures so we know exactly what we're voting for. :D

HelloKiddo
04-07-2010, 09:36 AM
I'm not sure if this is a stereotype, but the opening monologue to Adaptation made me laugh out loud because it reminded me of the endless yammering that goes on in my own brain. A snippet:



http://www.whysanity.net/monos/adapt.html

Hilarious and 100% true! Thanks for sharing.

brainstorm77
04-09-2010, 01:20 PM
Joan Wilder.

shaldna
04-09-2010, 02:48 PM
We're all apparently slightly crazy, a bit neurotic, have at least one nervous tick and a drink problem. We are apparently lacking in any sense of personal hygience and always have glasses that are slightly too big. We are tortured souls who can't bring ourselves to get out of our PJ's (seriously, wearing them all day is just disgusting) or brush our hair. When we are forced by necessity to go out in public we must always wear slightly too tight black turtle necks and dark glasses and pout alot while sulking moodily in a corner table at Starbucks and complaining, loudly, that the muse is absent.


Seriously, writers sterotypes make me feel well adjusted.

JimmyB27
04-09-2010, 04:05 PM
Whisky.

Mmmmmm, whisky.

Ken
04-09-2010, 04:36 PM
[QUOTE=Chasing the Horizon;48290 91] I don't think anyone could suspend their disbelief that far.

Funny way of putting it :-D
(I still stand by my first post, though.)

I identify with a lot of the Hollywood writer stereotypes. I hate people, look strange (but not unkempt), have no social life . . . yeah, I'm a walking cliche. Except for the fact I keep spiders instead of cats.

Very cool! :-)

But they're big and fuzzy and hiss when they're mad, so it's not that different.[QUOTE]

Didn't know they hissed. Kinda cute, though I'd probably head for the hills if one did.

icerose
04-09-2010, 04:53 PM
I haven't found any writer stereotype that fits me.

1. Have a family that I love.
2. Great love life.
3. Supportive husband and family.
4. Active in my community.
5. Enjoy talking to people around town.
6. I don't require my muse to get things accomplished.
7. I have Cushings so I can be cantankerous and fat and very tired despite my best efforts and no matter how much sleep I get.
8. I love to cook and am always trying new things. I eat a very high quality diet of home cooked products.
9. Stay at home mom who's trying to make it into the writing industry without sacrificing time and quality with my children.
10. Prefers the outdoors to the city.
11. Love gaming, knives, guns, carpentery, and in general working with my hands whether it be sewing, painting, making pots, or building something. Which makes me so not a typical girl.
12. Love spirited debates that make me think.
13. Don't drink or do drugs, never have, never will - i.e. not tortured soul.
14. Had a good childhood overall though had to grow up quickly due to parental illnesses.

Nope, can't find any stereotype that comes close. If anyone knows of one, lemme know.

Jamesaritchie
04-09-2010, 05:04 PM
I don't think I match any Hollywood stereotype, either, but I'll go with Rick Castle.

Too bad John Wayne never played a writer.

Christyp
04-09-2010, 05:53 PM
Chasing the Horizon....you just about gave me a freaking heart attack! I'm scrolling down the threads reading, and up pops a ginormous spider....I'm severely arachnophobic!

cameron_chapman
04-09-2010, 05:55 PM
I'm partial to the way Beatrix Potter was portrayed in Miss Potter. I particularly liked the way her characters came to life for her...I'd say I identify with her more than any other writer stereotypes. Though I also identify with all the writer-as-loner stereotypes, too.

Mr Flibble
04-09-2010, 09:24 PM
I have to groan whenever one of these "tortured artist" characters opens the fridge and we see they subsist on Chinese food and alcohol.
You mean you guys don't?

<< >>

*hides empty cans and leftover takeaway*


Actually if I lived alone I would be the female Jonny Depp in Secret Window, because I'd have no one to make me realise my delusions aren't real

Tasmin21
04-09-2010, 09:36 PM
I have to say that Joan Wilder made an impression on me (I was fairly young when that movie came out) and in my mind, THAT is what a writer should be like. Not so much the living alone with a cat, but the sobbing at your own words at the end of the story, celebrating the triumphant conclusion with a tasty beverage... Yeah, I'm kinda like that. ;)

BenPanced
04-09-2010, 09:49 PM
Jenny on The L Word. Quiet, awkward, shy, unsure of her sexuality, she gets a multi-million dollar contract (the publisher flew out to Los Angeles to deliver the advance check to her personally!) and suddenly becomes a stone b!tch.

And if by "favorite", you mean "what's one more unrealistic storyline on the show, anyway?", then, yeah.

wrangler
04-10-2010, 03:26 AM
Hmmmmm...good question.

I am fond of my solitude. In fact, I am planning a move to the Pocono Mountains in the very near future to keep things this way.

Friends and family see me as the "life of the party." But despite this, after a friend was hospitalized for a suicide attempt years ago, admitted they do "worry" about me at times.

I MUST spend part of my day outdoors in the open air. This does WONDERS for me, truly.

Nothing more than an occasional drink, although in my early 20's there was heavy drug usage. Married for ten years, together for 14 --and still going strong.

mario_c
04-10-2010, 06:49 PM
Actually, I most identify with Hank Moody....
A man's gotta dream. :D

mario_c
04-10-2010, 06:52 PM
I haven't found any writer stereotype that fits me.

1. Have a family that I love.
2. Great love life.
3. Supportive husband and family.
4. Active in my community.
5. Enjoy talking to people around town.
6. I don't require my muse to get things accomplished.
7. I have Cushings so I can be cantankerous and fat and very tired despite my best efforts and no matter how much sleep I get.
8. I love to cook and am always trying new things. I eat a very high quality diet of home cooked products.
9. Stay at home mom who's trying to make it into the writing industry without sacrificing time and quality with my children.
10. Prefers the outdoors to the city.
11. Love gaming, knives, guns, carpentery, and in general working with my hands whether it be sewing, painting, making pots, or building something. Which makes me so not a typical girl.
12. Love spirited debates that make me think.
13. Don't drink or do drugs, never have, never will - i.e. not tortured soul.
14. Had a good childhood overall though had to grow up quickly due to parental illnesses.

Nope, can't find any stereotype that comes close. If anyone knows of one, lemme know.
Don't make me come over there. :D

Well done, Ice!

shaldna
04-11-2010, 12:10 AM
I do feel sometimes like I don't fit into any of the writer cliches that we see.

Ok, so I drink alot. But that;s negated by the fact that I'm Irish. Other than that I feel that I'm pretty well adjusted.