Nine "Christian Militia" Members Arrested in Michigan

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Apparently planning a modern-day Harper's Ferry styled event.
The indictment describes an alleged plot that seems inspired by weapons more associated with urban warfare in Iraq than with rural Michigan.

The Hutaree members allegedly "planned to kill an unidentified member of local law enforcement and then attack the law enforcement officers who gather in Michigan for the funeral."

The indictment continues: "According to the plan, the Hutaree would attack law enforcement vehicles during the funeral procession with Improvised Explosive Devices with Explosively Formed Projectiles, which, according to the indictment, constitute weapons of mass destruction."

That attack, in turn, would spark a more widespread Harper's Ferry-style uprising against the government, according to the "general concept of operations" described in the indictment.
 

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I just posted a thread about this, too, clintl. I'll merge 'em.
 

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Without another Waco or a Ruby Ridge, too. The system is still limping along.
 

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would spark a more widespread Harper's Ferry-style uprising against the government,
Allegedly.

Does anyone besides Don really associate local cops with the Federal Government*? Maybe just these nuts.




*Not that this would be justified against Federal authorities either...
 

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I saw "weapons of mass destruction" and went "oh crap".

The indictment continues: "According to the plan, the Hutaree would attack law enforcement vehicles during the funeral procession with Improvised Explosive Devices with Explosively Formed Projectiles, which, according to the indictment, constitute weapons of mass destruction."

Not exactly what I was thinking--tomahawk missiles, warheads--but at least these weapons won't see use. And also, at least the people dumb enough to attempt this shit are usually dumb enough to brag about it on youTube and blogs beforehand.
 

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HMmm…I wonder is there is any relationship to the fact that most weapons have a RIGHT hand twist.
 

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Hutaree's MySpace has apparently been pulled.

But the Website and

YouTube channel are both still up. For now.

From the About statement on their own website:
We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. All christians must know this and prepare, just as Christ commanded. Luke 22:35-37, And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?” So they said, “Nothing.” 36, Then he said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. 37, “For I say to you that this which is written must be accomplished in me: ‘And He was numbered with transgressors,’ For the things concerning Me have an end.” This clearly states the reason for the training and preparation of the Hutaree.

Jesus wanted us to be ready to defend ourselves using the sword and stay alive using equipment. The only thing on earth to save the testimony and those who follow it, are the members of the testimony, til the return of Christ in the clouds. We, the Hutaree, are prepared to defend all those who belong to Christ and save those who aren’t. We will still spread the word, and fight to keep it, up to the time of the great coming.

Being Hutaree is to stay the Testimony of Christ alive, and follow a motto, John15:13, “Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.” We are hoping that through this website we can reach out to those who have not the word of God and those who are lost in there ideas of Christ. Many of the things Christ said would happen have happened and some things are still in the works of happening.

I can't help but wonder how they got from there to "God wants us to ambush and kill a bunch of cops!"
 
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The part that always confuses me about this thing is the "fighting with Jesus" lines.

It showed up in an interview I saw with their "spokesman" earlier today. They believe they're in the end times, and are going to lead the fight with Jesus against Satan.

Did I miss something at church as a child or isn't Jesus supposed to be, you know, peaceful?
 

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"kill em all and let dad sort em out!"
 

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Nothing new:

1. Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
forward into battle see his banners go!
Refrain:
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
with the cross of Jesus going on before.

2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee;
on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.
(Refrain)

3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
one in hope and doctrine, one in charity.
(Refrain)

4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
but the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
(Refrain)

5. Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud, and honor unto Christ the King,
this through countless ages men and angels sing.
(Refrain)


http://www.hymnsite.com/lyrics/umh575.sht

caw
 

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Somewhere, Mohamed and Jesus are sharing a box of Kleenex. :(
 

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site's back up.

shame these crazy kids went off the path. they had a bright future in website design.
 

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Back in the days when I went to church with my parents, before I converted to agnosticism, that was always my least favorite hymn.
 

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I don't remember thoughts of shooting cops or federal agents while droning through all the verses in church, however. Color me ignorant, if you wish.

ETA: And yes, it wasn't my favorite either.
 

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To this day it amazes me how people can convert love-thy-neighbor into kill-whomever-you-dislike. There's not a logical series of steps to follow from one to the other.