Question on Christian Novels

Status
Not open for further replies.

wilhem spihntingle

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 23, 2009
Messages
243
Reaction score
12
Location
East Coast
I have written a crime thriller. It contains contains, violence, profanity, and some mild drug use. Are these thing prohibited in Christain novels?

Although this is a "badguy" crime novel, the core theme is a pro-life story, revolving around an aborted baby and the quest for his redemption. This is done somewhat subliminally in various ways, some obvious, others hidden, like the Sixth Sense kind of thing.

Based on this, would I be disqualified from the Christian Market?

I have tried to get to the bottom of the Christian literature rules to the road, but I find it very confusing. I'm Catholic, go to church, obey the 10 Commandments, etc.. Just trying to understand what the difference is.

Thanks in advance..W.S
 

wilhem spihntingle

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 23, 2009
Messages
243
Reaction score
12
Location
East Coast
I agree with the secular house, or can you revise so that the reader knows these things are going on without being graphic about them?

Thank you both for the advice. I have heard the term secular, and I am going to do a little research to find out more. Peace W.S
 

wilhem spihntingle

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 23, 2009
Messages
243
Reaction score
12
Location
East Coast
Thank you both for the advice. I have heard the term secular, and I am going to do a little research to find out more. Peace W.S

Here is what I found:

"A quick side note: “secular” fiction is the term associated with the ‘no holds barred’ guidelines"

Is this accurate? So esentially, I could describe and pithc my novel as a "crime thriller with a secular theme"?
 

CACTUSWENDY

An old, sappy, and happy one.
Kind Benefactor
Requiescat In Pace
Registered
Joined
Feb 12, 2005
Messages
12,860
Reaction score
1,667
Location
Sunny Arizona
You will want to go with main stream or regular publishers....as the Christian market will not want this. IMHO
 

AnneMarble

Nefarious Ghost Fan
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Feb 12, 2005
Messages
2,922
Reaction score
3,044
Location
MD
Website
gorokandwulf.blogspot.com
Here is what I found:

"A quick side note: “secular” fiction is the term associated with the ‘no holds barred’ guidelines"

Is this accurate? So esentially, I could describe and pithc my novel as a "crime thriller with a secular theme"?
In the context of this board, I'd take "secular" to mean non-Christian publishers. You can still publish books with religious themes with "secular" publishers. Another publisher mentioned Dean Koontz, and I think his novels are a great example -- especially his more recent books (such as Relentless).

There are a lot of writers who are known for writing stories influenced by their Christian faith who are not published by Christian publishers -- for example, fantasy writers Gene Wolfe and Robert Jordan. I'm sure there are other thriller and horror writers who writer faith-based fiction that is published by secular houses.
 

L.Jones

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 22, 2005
Messages
470
Reaction score
53
There are publishing houses that identify specifically as Christian and that's what they produce - Zondervan, Thomas Nelson, Revell, come to mind right off the top of my head. They have finely tuned expectation for their publications. They are the only ones who would care about you saying you have "secular" themes - but then to them that would be a deal killer.

There are other publishers who have Christian lines (in fact most of them do) including Harlequin (Steeple Hill), HarperCollins, Random House. (I actually think Zondervan is owned by a bigger house now that I think of it)

The distinction came from years ago when the main if not only way that certain publishers sold their books were through the Christian book distribution network, formerly known as the CBA (counterpart to the ABA - American Booksellers Assoc) and Christian bookstores.

In the big stage, ALL publishers have expectations for the books they publish and you are wasting yours and their time by submitting anything that will never fit. SO the thing to do in this market is get yourself into bookstores and find books that seem the most like yours then research those authors and houses.

There are a lot of Christian authors pushing the envelopes but many of them have earned that by having a readership - iow it's a tough, tough market and publishers are less likely to take risks on a new author doing that envelope pushing. It is unlikely that you will find a Christian publisher who will allow swearing (though I think they are less squeamish about violence - not sure) so when you do your research, keep that in mind.

annie jones
 

windyrdg

New kid, be gentle!
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Nov 17, 2006
Messages
526
Reaction score
89
Location
So Oregon Coast looking at the ocean
Website
capearagopress.com
Coming in on the tail-end here.
When people spoke of "secular" publishers they were referring to what is popularly known as the trade publishers. That is, the general publishing companies like Random House, HarperCollins, Grand Central, etc., etc.
You would not want to include secular in a description of your genre. Everything except Christian fiction is, by definition, secular. There are many sites that have lists of the various genre's. Check and I'm sure you'll find one that fits.

A final thought. If you intended this as a Christian novel where everyone gets saved at the end of the book, the trade publishers will reject this just as the Christian publishers reject sex and violence.

If you have a moral lesson to transmit, it is best done overtly. Think of something like To Kill a Mockingbird.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.