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Saskatoonistan
11-07-2009, 01:22 AM
He gets a big NOT RECOMMENDED on P&E but you really have to read this justification for charging fees (http://paluzzi.net/payvsfree.html), it's priceless.

Richard White
11-07-2009, 01:28 AM
ROFL

*sigh*

*snicker*

*sigh again*

Wayne K
11-07-2009, 01:38 AM
Let me get my checkbook.

Bushdoctor
11-07-2009, 01:41 AM
lol. you'd be surprised how many people fall for this

Lucy Dashwood
11-07-2009, 01:43 AM
I don't know what era he's talking about but during my career--30+ years--reputable agents haven't charged fees.

Judg
11-07-2009, 01:44 AM
Oh brother...

Saskatoonistan
11-07-2009, 01:55 AM
I am seriously contemplating doing a blog posting with the top ten excuses for charging fees along with links so people can see I am not making this up.

augusto
11-07-2009, 03:45 AM
Do you think he'd pay extra attention to my work if I gave him a credit card number?

squibnocket
11-07-2009, 06:00 AM
I am seriously contemplating doing a blog posting with the top ten excuses for charging fees along with links so people can see I am not making this up.

Yes, please.

colealpaugh
11-07-2009, 06:21 AM
I wonder how creative his in depth form letter rejection is?

IDK, I just couldn't get past an image of a big guy in a sweat suit with a cigar stub in the corner of his mouth, typing that crap out to send to his web designer cousin.

James D. Macdonald
11-07-2009, 06:42 AM
Anyone who wants to know why reputable agents and publishers send form rejections should read Slushkiller.

SJWangsness
11-07-2009, 09:29 AM
Has this guy ever actually sold any books? I couldn't find any evidence of it.

Julie Worth
11-07-2009, 05:11 PM
Listening to his interview--with a marvelously inarticulate and clueless interviewer--it does appear that he has some background--he may actually have worked in an agency or publisher at some low level. But mostly he's appears to be just another writer/artist who, unable to find an agent, has decided to become one himself. He seems New Yorkish, young, and energetic--he talks like he's doing an elevator pitch and only has thirty seconds...except he goes on for an hour.

He says his fee is $150 for reading the MS and reporting back, and 12% for commission. His line editing rate is equally low, roughly a dollar a page. You might actually get something for your money, I suppose, but you'd be crazy to sign a contract.

He also offers a head shot package for actors--this for $200.

His bio: http://www.paluzzi.net/anthony_paluzzi_bio.html

And the street address appears to be that of an apartment complex gone to seed--"Your best day there will be the day you move out."

AKONI
12-02-2009, 07:15 AM
I wonder how creative his in depth form letter rejection is?

IDK, I just couldn't get past an image of a big guy in a sweat suit with a cigar stub in the corner of his mouth, typing that crap out to send to his web designer cousin.


So you think everyone with an Italian name is Tony Soprano? Not too much racism where you live, eh?




Has anyone here had any contact with this guy besides me?

I actually went with his line editing about three months ago and I was really happy with the results. One of the things I liked is that he didn't try to change my voice to his own and he did clean up the manuscript a lot. I'm not sure what type of an agent he is, but I'd be a liar if I said he didn't do a good job for a fair price.

I have no idea if he would give a good detailed review if I submitted to him for represetnation, but at least with me he did exactly what he advertised so I'm not going to assume he's a liar.

And lets be honest. How many of you like form letters? I agree there are scam artists out there, but a form letter never helped any of us so the idea of suggesting reading Slushkiller is idiotic.

Richard White
12-02-2009, 08:17 AM
Hmm, I may not always agree with the Haydens, but I have a feeling they've read and dealt with a lot more slush than I have.

Personally, I learned a lot reading through Slushkiller.

I hardly found the information in there idiotic.

AKONI
12-02-2009, 09:01 AM
Idiotic for the purpose mentioned here.

Richard White
12-02-2009, 09:41 AM
To stay on topic, Writer Beware does not recommend any agent who charges fees, no matter how pleasant they may have been to work with. Agents should make their living by selling their clients work and collecting commissions. If the agent is collecting fees up front, it doesn't matter to them whether the book sells or not . . . they've made their money. Agents shouldn't be selling editorial services, own their own publishing company nor should they submit their client's work somewhere where they're getting a kick-back. All of these things are detrimental to the author who's counting on the agent to look out after their best interest.

Actually, we don't recommend agents either, but that's because every author's needs are different. We do recommend focusing on agents who've actually sold books in the area you're interested in writing in. If the agent isn't selling books to advance paying publishers, it doesn't matter if they're charging fees or not. An amateur agent is just as dangerous to a manuscript as a scamming agent.

It is not in any writer's best interest to pay up-front fees to an agent.

_______________________________________

Now, with regard to Slushkiller and formal rejection notes:

Slushkiller describes the Hayden's experiences with dealing with slush. It's echoed in Miss Snark's experiences, Colleen Lindsey's experiences, Janet Reid's experiences and many other agents who blog about dealing with slush.

Given the volume of queries, partials and fulls that agents receive from non-clients, there simply isn't enough time in the day for them to go through every submission and give detailed personalized critiques. Period. They deal with these after they finish working on their current clientele's projects - usually at home after hours. The only way they can go through the hundreds of queries they receive is to identify those they want to read through later and those that are not what they're looking for. The ones that get rejected way outnumber those they want to review later. The most efficient way for an agent to deal with something they don't want to represent is a form rejection letter.

This also helps avoid getting into arguments with the rejectee. Many agent blogs mention that personalized rejections seem to encourage the rejected author to write back, imploring the agent to re-read the query/partial/full, counting on the fact that if the agent only "spent more time with it, they'd see the (fill in the blank) that they missed the first time. When the agent replies that no means no, then the writer gets combative, which, of course, solves nothing and encourages the agent to forgo personalized rejections and copy a form rejection from a fellow agent from then on.

The pictures in Slushkiller show the volume of mail that the Hayden's had to deal with at Tor. It's sometimes quite instructive to actually see what an agent or editor may receive in a very short period of time.

So, while you may not find using Slushkiller useful, it is hardly "idiotic" to suggest that authors, especially new authors, review the information in Slushkiller to help understand why an agent might use a formal rejection letter.

Of course, your mileage may vary.

AKONI
12-02-2009, 11:58 AM
I think anyone with the sleezy come-on such as what I read on HIS website is like a Soprano character. But call me a racist again and you'll wake up at the bottom of the Passaic River, there tulip.

BTW, the first words Paluzzi says in his radio interview:

"Hey, hooowwwwwzzzzzz it goin'.":hat:

I've been looking over these threads on and off for a few months now, reading advice and what not, and yeah I did listen to the interview and laughed since he sounded pretty light hearted about it, but you sir are a disgusting racist! It was your revolting comments that finally incited me to post after all of these months.

Then again Pennsylvania has a pretty good KKK organization.



Forgive the interruption, but there's a more than even chance you're trying to convince Mr. Paluzzi or one of his close personal friends.

No. I'm simply an Italian who is disgusted by you, which is what drove me to comment in the first place. It's a shame lynchings are illegal or you would have something to do this upcoming weekend.



Richard White, I wouldn't pay for an agent to read my material either, which is why I only stuck with the editing services. He did a good job at that. Is he a good agent? I have no idea. For all I know he sucks at it, but nothing he did would lead me to believe he's not being up front and honest.


If he did a crappy job I'd have a different opinion. Is there anyone here who was actually burned by this guy?

Mac H.
12-02-2009, 12:40 PM
I didn't get the image of a 'Sopranos' character when looking at the page.

For me, it was more of an image of the likeable 'Arthur Daley' from the British TV Series 'Minder'.

2003: His website was devoted to showing models who had posed for him. He was selling photos of them.

2005: He published a book with Cafe press "CONTEMPLATIONS OF A DISTURBED MIND".

.. and now he's a literary agent !

Curiously, the person defending him here has the username 'AKONI'. This 'AKONI' is a satisfied customer who 'went with his line editing about three months ago'.

Want to see an amazing coincidence - AKONI is the EXACT SAME USERNAME that the owner of the website 'http://paluzzi.net' uses on other message boards!

That's right - the one happy customer just happens to have the EXACT SAME USERNAME as the person who runs the website ! We know it isn't just a random person who loves putting a link to a totally unrelated site in their signature, because at one stage they update the site with a picture to explain a point.

Wow. That's an amazing coincidence.

What are the odds ?

To make it even more amazing ... both of these entirely separate individuals just HAPPEN to like putting their usernames in All Caps ! That's even eerier ...

Mac
(eg: http://www.bautforum.com/astronomy/6860-dark-space.html#post120421 )

AKONI
12-02-2009, 12:48 PM
I forgot to mention I'm half Italian. Mmmm...pizza and lynchings!


So you're self hating as well? That's going to get great PR for you!


Mac C.

That was funny! We share the same first name... I know... Being Italian it's shocking. Look up the English version of the name Akoni. I stole the idea from him.



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=akoni&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10



I love how you're freaking out when I already said I was pissed over the racism and said I wouldn't use him as an agent. Bitter bitter bitter.


I just sent him an email about this. Maybe he can come here and you published people can all attack him.

AKONI
12-02-2009, 01:08 PM
Where did you see that stuff?

Mac H.
12-02-2009, 01:13 PM
That was funny! We share the same first name... I know... Being Italian it's shocking. Look up the English version of the name Akoni. I stole the idea from him.Including the all caps style?

The two people who use that username on message boards with that exact style just happen to be a guy and his satisfied client?

You must be some fan !

Mac

AKONI
12-02-2009, 01:18 PM
colealpaugh. Honestly? You want Evil Alien Face Thongs You're weird, but mostly creepy. Looking forward to when your circus book comes out. Let us know.

Why can't I find any of your books listed here http://www.colealpaugh.com/books.html anywhere???



Mac H. Not a fan. I really dug the way the first name translated from Hawaiian and made a joke about it. You think me posting in one place with a user name in caps is weird. I've come across about 5 different people who use the name DRUNKMAN in all caps.

Again. Nice editing work. Wouldn't hire him as an agent because there's no need for me to do so and the line editing served a greater purpose than an opinion on the work.

Mac H.
12-02-2009, 01:25 PM
So you didn't know him before your worked with him?

This is a honest question, BTW.

Mac

AKONI
12-02-2009, 01:42 PM
Mac H. Okay, that's fair enough.


I did searches for an editor because I love to write but I sometimes get the words backwards. I paid one person who did a crappy job and then found this guy. I told him what happened and he agreed to edit the first chapter for free and if I liked it he would then do the rest of the manuscript for pay. It worked out.

He told me he's new at the agent thing and does more work with scripts so he doesn't have a track record as an agent, I didnít want to take a chance on a new agent, but I can't argue with him for wanting to be paid for his work if he's actually going to read the whole thing if most agents reject stuff after a page or two.

We still correspond from time to time because I've had a few questions about the business. He once told me what our first names mean in Hawaiian Anthony = Akoni. I thought it was funny so I used it when I came here. (and it's apart of my personal email address) That's not some grand conspiracy.


Honestly, don't go with the guy if you donít want to, but to assume someone I worked with who didn't rip me off is a scam artist got me posting,and the racist Italian comment didn't help, because Iíve been on the receiving end of it, but I guess some people like Cole Alpaugh thought the Sopranos was a documentary when they watched it and they let their ignorance show.





Cole Alpaugh, if that's the case then why on your website are you pretending you have THREE books?

colealpaugh
12-02-2009, 01:46 PM
Cole Alpaugh, if that's the case then why on your website are you pretending you have THREE books?


It helps me get laid.









C'mon, say "I love you". You'll feel better, Mr. P.

AKONI
12-02-2009, 01:53 PM
Well, Cole Alpaugh if you'd dye the grey out of your hair and stopped having your racist fantasies maybe you'd get laid some and then you wouldn't have to pretend you've got books out there.

Anyway, the Mr. P stuff is funny.


I thought you were going to bed.

Mac H.
12-02-2009, 01:54 PM
AKONI,

Your story doesn't seem to ring true. It might be true, of course, but it just doesn't seem plausible.

For a start:

(1) "I actually went with his line editing about three months ago and I was really happy with the results."

OK. I understand that.

(2) You found the other AKONI when he agreed to edit the first chapter for free and if you liked it he would then do the rest of the manuscript for pay. It worked out.

(3) You still correspond from time to time because you've had a few questions about the business. He once told me what your first names mean in Hawaiian Anthony = Akoni.

OK. That means that:

(1) Around September 2009 (your 'three months ago'), you chatted with the other AKONI.

(2) He told you about using the username 'AKONI' in a conversation since then and you chose it for this site.

Fair enough. Seems odd, but it's possible. And it's just a coincidence that you both have the same style. Odd - but it's possible.

Where it gets really weird, though, is that according to your profile here you chose the username 'AKONI' on the 13th May 2009.

This was about 5 months BEFORE you had made contact with him !

Call me cynical, but it is getting less and less believable.

Unless you have a blue police box stashed around somewhere ?

Mac

AKONI
12-02-2009, 01:59 PM
Jeeze then it was longer than three months ago. Honestly. I don't have a date in front of me. When I think two months ago I'm still thinking August. When I say "about," I mean "About."

The over zealous detective work is getting silly. I know I've been a member of this site since late Spring or early Summer. If asked I'd tell people I joined a couple of months ago and get jumped on because it would mean two instead of whatever it is.


"Unless you have a blue police box stashed around somewhere." I actually don't know what that means.


You wrote.. (2) He told you about using the username 'AKONI' in a conversation since then and you chose it for this site.

Fair enough. Seems odd, but it's possible. And it's just a coincidence that you both have the same style. Odd - but it's possible.


I ALREADY wrote that I took that idea after he told me about it. Read what I've written on this thread.



I just thought of this...


http://blogs.technet.com/photos/gray_knowlton/images/2998979/original.aspx

Mac H.
12-02-2009, 02:23 PM
Yes - I often feel that XKCD fits me too well !

(That's an XKCD cartoon, BTW - http://www.xkcd.com/386/ )

The 'blue policebox' reference is left to the reader ....

Mac

AKONI
12-02-2009, 02:26 PM
Thanks for the link! :) This one made me laugh my butt off!



http://www.xkcd.com/123/

Momento Mori
12-02-2009, 03:38 PM
AKONI:
I actually went with his line editing about three months ago and I was really happy with the results. One of the things I liked is that he didn't try to change my voice to his own and he did clean up the manuscript a lot. I'm not sure what type of an agent he is, but I'd be a liar if I said he didn't do a good job for a fair price.

Well, it's nice that you're happy with the results.

Has your revised manuscript been offered representation by a legitimate agent or a publishing contract from a legitimate publishing company?


AKONI:
For all I know he sucks at it, but nothing he did would lead me to believe he's not being up front and honest.

Representing yourself as an agent when you charge fees and have no record of sales to publishers is not being up front and honest.


AKONI:
I just sent him an email about this. Maybe he can come here and you published people can all attack him.

So you see everything here as an attack? You don't think that there's anything suspect about someone with no track record of editing or agenting charging fees for both?


AKONI:
I can't argue with him for wanting to be paid for his work if he's actually going to read the whole thing if most agents reject stuff after a page or two.

Most agents reject stuff after a page or two because (1) those pages are awful or (2) they know that the book isn't going to be the type of manuscript they can sell.

If Anthony Paluzzi is charging you to read manuscripts, then of course he's going to read them. To do otherwise would be fraudulent. However, reading manuscripts is not the same as selling them and much of what he says on his website is, well, bullshit.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Years ago agents often charged a reading fee with each submission, but some not so reputable agencies got in on the act and so the practice was discontinued and with it, unfortunately, so did your opportunity to have your manuscript read by an agent.

Erm ... no.

My agent read my manuscript without my having to pay anything.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
They say they do this because they simply don't have the time to respond to each individual submission. Oh, really? So they expect you to believe they have the time to read an entire 200-800 page manuscript, but not enough time to type out a letter?

Why is this?

Because they don't actually read your manuscript.

Nonsense. If agents didn't read manuscripts, how would they take on clients?


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
All they really do is glance at the first page of your hard work and if they aren't gripped before the end of the second paragraph they toss the whole manuscript back into your shipping box, hit "print" on their computer, drop their still warm form letter rejecting your work on top of it, and then throw the whole thing in a pile for their secretary to send out with the rest of the mail.

Not true.

Most agents ask for a query letter and a synopsis in the first instance. It's shocking how many people don't follow the initial submission guidelines.

Assuming though that the query letter is for the type of manuscript that they represent, they'll take a look at the partial. Whether you like it or not, it is obvious within the first couple of pages whether a manuscript contains (1) good quality writing and (2) a story that may be saleable.

If the agent likes what they've seen in the partial, then they'll request a full.

Most people get rejected at the partial stage because their manuscript either (1) isn't good enough or (2) not the kind of story that the agent represents or (3) not the kind of story that the agent thinks they can sell, e.g. because it's too similiar to a host of other books out on the market.

If you are asked for a full manuscript, then the agent will read it. The above reasons for rejection will still apply. If however, the agent thinks that the manuscript could be sold with some work, they will usually tell you. You are more likely to get a personalised response for a rejection on a full manuscript than on a partial (but there is no guarantee).


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
When I first started out at a New York agency assisting another agent she pointed to two stacks of card board boxes, each standing as high as seven feet, and said, "I don't have time to read all of that. Go through them and read the first page of every box you open. If it doesn't grab you by the end of the third paragraph throw it into the rejection pile."

"But what if the story really picks up on page five?"

"Do you want this job? I want to leave on time today. If you can't do what I said then you're not cut out for this kind of work."

So of course I did as she said, but with a knot in my gut. This was so unfair to the people who labored endlessly to produce their manuscripts.

A friend of mine is an assistant at a NY literary agency. Part of her job is to read the slushpile. It is obvious what manuscripts have potential and what do not and I'm guessing that Anthony found that out the hard way.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Some manuscripts were even rejected because of what the writer did for a living. One cover letter stated that the writer was a house painter who wanted to be published. She laughed and rejected his work without even reading a word of the manuscript. "A painter? What a joke. I'm not even going to look at it."

Easy to claim when he doesn't name the agency.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
This explains why 90% of the books out there sell less than 5,000 copies. Literary agents have a very simple mind set:

Erm, no. Agents don't decide what gets published. They submit to publishers, who decide what they want to buy.

You'd think that someone who worked at a New York agency would understand that difference.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Why do I charge?

Because I'm actually going to take the time to read your manuscript and I'm actually going to write out a review telling you what I think of your work so you will have all of the information you need. In other words, I'm actually going to do the work.

No, you're not. Your work is to sell that manuscript. That is how you get paid. If you can't sell a manuscript, then you're not doing your job.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
People here have to spend the time reading manuscripts and we have to pay them for their time. The other agencies don't charge because they're not actually spending any time, and they can't pay people for work they're not doing.

No, the other agencies don't charge because they make their money from a proportion of the advances of the books that they sell and then later, a proportion of the royalties from the books that they sell.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
I am willing to work for you.

Except the actual agenting stuff. He doesn't seem to do that.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Your reading fee is deducted from our commission once the first check from the publisher arrives.

Huh? I thought the reading fee was charged on submission of the manuscript - he certainly asks you to send the fee when you send the manuscript:


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Reading Fee When Submitting for Representation
Flat Rate $150.00

AND


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
We accept checks or money orders. Do not send cash.

This suggests that you're charged twice.

Oh, no. Wait:


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
The agency has a very author friendly author/agent contract. The contract specifies my obligations to our authors. If you desire, we are agreeable to have the publisher send contractual payments directly to our authors and our commission directly to us. Your reading fee is refunded to you from our commission after the first check from the publisher arrives.

I think it's great that Anthony's offering editing services that look at continuity given that it's so important on his website ...

Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
We provide editorial and marketing guidance as well as aggressive expertise in contract negotiation. We will represent most forms of work, whether it be historical non-fiction, political non-fiction, or any genre of fiction such as horror, science fiction, mystery or fantasy.

That's nice. Which authors do you represent in those genres and which publishers have you sold to?


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Most major publishing companies do not limit themselves so why should we?

Because agents aren't publishing companies?


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Once accepted as a client we will aggressively market your manuscript to many of the hundreds of publishers in the industry

Oh dear. That suggests you don't have contacts with any particular commercial publisher. My agent, for example, has suggested submitting my manuscript to each of the 4 acquiring editors she has a close relationship with in the first instance and then going to a number of other ones.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
If on the other hand you are not looking for representation because you already have an agent, but recognize the need to hand in a polished piece of work any editor would be a fool to reject we offer...

Oh. My. God.

He's not really suggesting that someone with an agent go to him for editorial services is he?

Firstly, that is really unprofessional. Secondly, if you have a legitimate agent, they will usually work with you on edits.


Anthony Paluzzi's Website:
Even agent submitted work to a publishing company first finds it's way to a reader. This person is usually about 22 years old, in college, in desperate need of a few extra dollars and is trying to rush through your manuscript in between reports she has to write for her English 101 class. This is not always the case. Sometimes an assistant editor will take the time to read a manuscript that an agent has patiently pitched, but most of the time they slip it to one of their readers after promising to read it themselves.

Or, you know, your agent might actually know an acquiring editor so that they read the work ...

MM

eqb
12-02-2009, 03:49 PM
I also note that Mr. P's page on Editing Services contains numerous typos. "That's" instead of "thats", "it's" for "its", "you're" instead of "your", incorrectly hyphenated words, missing commas, and so on.

So not only does this guy lack clients and sales, his editing isn't up to standards.

Saskatoonistan
12-02-2009, 03:54 PM
I also note that Mr. P's page on Editing Services contains numerous typos. "That's" instead of "thats", "it's" for "its", "you're" instead of "your", incorrectly hyphenated words, missing commas, and so on.

So not only does this guy lack clients and sales, his editing isn't up to standards.

The Gorn doesn't look too kindly on agents with bad grammar and punctuation.

http://www.70disco.com/images/fight03.jpg

FEAR THE GORN!!! FEAR HIM!!!!

eqb
12-02-2009, 03:55 PM
The Gorn is my hero. :)

Saskatoonistan
12-02-2009, 04:05 PM
The Gorn is my hero. :)

Indeed.

There aren't many creatures in the universe that can kick James Tiberius Kirk's ass and instill terror in the hearts of gormless agents.

http://blog.sixthcircle.com/.a/6a011570955291970c01157257facb970b-500pi

Eirin
12-02-2009, 04:20 PM
You know, the idea that agents and acquiring editors don't read manuscripts is ludicrous when you examine it. How else do they find the books they sell?

My local bookstores are full of ... gasp ... books, and I can assure you they didn't morph, unread, into being from an alternate universe where little manuscript seedlings sprout covers and ISBNs as they mature on the vine, cool as the thought is.

Momento Mori
12-02-2009, 04:38 PM
eqb:
I also note that Mr. P's page on Editing Services contains numerous typos. "That's" instead of "thats", "it's" for "its", "you're" instead of "your", incorrectly hyphenated words, missing commas, and so on.

Doubtless that will be blamed on the web master/mistress.


eqb:
The Gorn is my hero.

I think we all need reminding that the Gorn is my squishie and no one else's. So back off, buster. ;)

MM

Saskatoonistan
12-02-2009, 05:19 PM
I think we all need reminding that the Gorn is my squishie and no one else's. So back off, buster. ;)

MM

The Gorn loves everyone equally. ;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3045/2588844601_efc7ef9df5.jpg

priceless1
12-02-2009, 06:15 PM
I'm actually going to do the work.
That's it? "I'll really do the work"? Does anyone believe real agents don't do this without the insulting fees? And really, how can anyone verify he'll read those manuscripts? Come on. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy doesn't fit into this category (http://behlerblog.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/open-letter-to-agents-because-you-really-oughta-know-better/)...

Richard White
12-02-2009, 07:38 PM
Yes - I often feel that XKCD fits me too well !

(That's an XKCD cartoon, BTW - http://www.xkcd.com/386/ )

The 'blue policebox' reference is left to the reader ....

Mac

Darn, that's me last night as I had to type and retype my response to Mr. Paluzzi, I mean AKONI, before I could go to bed. (Darn computer ate my original and much longer response.)

It's not so much that I expected to convince HIM as it was to put out information to anyone else who follows a google link to find out that Mr. Paluzzi is a fee-charging agent.

I mean, I'd hate for his google hits to really point out that he's a fee-charging agent, if you know what I mean. *grin*

James D. Macdonald
12-02-2009, 07:40 PM
I mean, I'd hate for his google hits to really point out that he's a fee-charging agent, if you know what I mean.

Would that be a fee-charging agent without any known sales, or some other kind of fee-charging agent?

Richard White
12-02-2009, 07:45 PM
Would that be a fee-charging agent without any known sales, or some other kind of fee-charging agent?


I do believe it's the former (a fee-charging agent without any known sales). Of course, he could come here, post and point out any sales he's made to advance paying publishers and then he'd be moved to the second category (just a fee-charging agent).

eqb
12-02-2009, 07:53 PM
I do believe it's the former (a fee-charging agent without any known sales). Of course, he could come here, post and point out any sales he's made to advance paying publishers and then he'd be moved to the second category (just a fee-charging agent).

Minor correction: A fee-charging agent who offers editing services of questionable value.

Old Hack
12-02-2009, 09:08 PM
Hang on, I want to get this straight.

Richard, are you suggesting that Anthony Paluzzi is a fee-charging agent? Because if Anthony Paluzzi is a fee-charging agent then he's not an agent I'd want.

Or is Anthony Paluzzi not only a fee-charging agent but also an editorial consultant who has a website littered with typos? Because again, if that's the case, Anthony Paluzzi is not the sort of literary agent that I'd want.

Or are you suggesting that Anthony Paluzzi is a fee-charging literary agent who has no record of making legitimate sales, and instead earns his income by charging his clients fees, rather than selling their books?

Or is it a combination of all three?

I just like to be sure.

Eirin
12-02-2009, 09:31 PM
I'm mighty slow on the uptake today.

Is Anthony Paluzzi the fee-charging agent? Or is Anthony Paluzzi the editor who can't spell to save his life? Or is Anthony Paluzzi the whoa-lookit-the-conflict-of-interest editor who is also a fee-charging agent who can't sell a manuscript to save his life?

So ... this Anthony Paluzzi. Fee-charging agent, huh? Can't sell manuscripts? Not even for a fee?

eqb
12-02-2009, 09:38 PM
Or is he *also* the fee-charging agent with no sales who can't spell and who *also* posts as a sockpuppet to defend himself?

Eirin
12-02-2009, 09:48 PM
I get the feeling Anthony Paluzzi is a fee-charging agent with no record of sales.*


*Ya know, this is a really nice hammer. I don't want to stop using it, even if I can hardly see the nail anymore :evil

eqb
12-02-2009, 09:49 PM
Maybe the pinata will come back with more candy.

Izz
12-02-2009, 09:53 PM
Candy!

Will we have to pay a fee?

Eirin
12-02-2009, 09:56 PM
No such thing as a free lunch, but sometimes ... sometimes there is free candy :)

Richard White
12-02-2009, 10:02 PM
Evil.

You all are evil.

:evil

That's why I like you.

regdog
12-02-2009, 11:33 PM
The Gorn doesn't look too kindly on agents with bad grammar and punctuation.

http://www.70disco.com/images/fight03.jpg

FEAR THE GORN!!! FEAR HIM!!!!

I was reading this wondering when The Gorn was going to appear

eqb
12-02-2009, 11:44 PM
I was reading this wondering when The Gorn was going to appear

The Gorn is always with us. Just...sometimes we get pictures.

Phaeal
12-02-2009, 11:54 PM
The Gorn doesn't look too kindly on agents with bad grammar and punctuation.

http://www.70disco.com/images/fight03.jpg

FEAR THE GORN!!! FEAR HIM!!!!

The Gorn is my personal shopper. He has such a sense of style.

Saskatoonistan
12-03-2009, 12:11 AM
The Gorn is like The Force - he is with you ... always.

(Also, that is not a lightsaber in his hand. It's a very very small thermos filled with spiced rum.)

http://edit.81x.com/Authors/GuitarRanger/V6_at_Vasquez__Gorn_small__.jpg

CaoPaux
01-27-2011, 07:19 AM
Looks like the Gorn got 'im: site's gone.