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LOG
07-25-2009, 07:25 PM
http://www.starcraft2.com/
Because I didn't see a thread for it already...

Any expectations for this game, story-wise?
I thought the method of release kinda unique.

I think Raynor's gonna die, eventually.
Maybe we'll also learn some more about these Perfect Beings the Xel'Naga created.

LOG
02-01-2010, 09:13 AM
Beta requirements. (http://www.gamingogre.com/news/starcraft-ii-beta-sorry-macs/)
PC thing only.

LOG
02-05-2010, 06:25 PM
Matt Horner (http://eu.starcraft2.com/features/heroes/horner.xml), new, important NPC.
Turns out, those beta specs are fudgy (http://starcraft.incgamers.com/articles/comments/kalos-comments-blizzard-specs/).

LOG
02-10-2010, 03:58 AM
Blizzards Battle.net 2.0 article (http://www.starcraft2.com/features/misc/battlenet.xml). Has a nice video with the BN director, and some good screenshots.
I'm glad they're making a better BN, the current one feels stale.

One thing I'm worried about is this always connected thing, my internet isn't the best around...

LOG
02-16-2010, 01:11 AM
What is best, in life Starcraft II (http://starcraft.incgamers.com/articles/comments/the-importance-of-starcraft-ii)

LOG
02-18-2010, 02:53 AM
Beta has officially begun. (http://us.battle.net/sc2beta/en-us/)

Official min. requirement. (http://www.incgamers.com/News/21063/starcraft-2-system-requirements)

LOG
02-19-2010, 08:03 AM
First noted issues with SC2 (http://ugdb.com/news/view/first-general-issues-with-starcraft-ii-beta/), nothing looks too serious so far.

Zoombie
02-19-2010, 09:43 PM
Zerg-Tan! (http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/26)

LOG
02-20-2010, 12:26 AM
Zerg-Tan! (http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/26)
The overlord is giant woman with a balloon...I'm still getting over that as I type this...

Not sure I get the point of the comic though.

Zoombie
02-20-2010, 06:30 AM
...its adorable?

LOG
02-20-2010, 10:37 AM
...its adorable?
Sorry, that aint cutting it for me...

Zoombie
02-20-2010, 11:02 AM
Do you like have no soul, or something?

LOG
02-20-2010, 08:12 PM
Soul, yes.
Heart, no.

LOG
02-25-2010, 02:41 AM
I am not surprised... (http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/starcraft-ii-beta-accounts-fetching-astronomical-prices/1390237)

LOG
03-03-2010, 06:07 PM
The use of nukes. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u04fiOBCHPg)

SC II is having nasty things done to it (http://www.explicitgamer.com/blog/2010/02/fowl-play-in-the-sc2-beta-scene/), I am in no way surprised.

LOG
03-08-2010, 07:59 AM
I just found out beta confidentiality was released about a month ago, so now I can tell people, I am a beta tester.
I bask in your jealousy, w/e you may have.

Al Ross
03-10-2010, 01:13 AM
Cutting one game in three pieces and expecting us to pay full price for all three of them?
Taking Lan out?
Must be online while playing?

This is a game I waited a long time for and will not buy. (More time to write.)

LOG
03-10-2010, 02:41 AM
Cutting one game in three pieces and expecting us to pay full price for all three of them?
Taking Lan out?
Must be online while playing?

1) It's not one game in three pieces, it's three games in three pieces.
2) Why implement LAN when you have the internet?
3) Nothing is certain there yet. I can't attest to it as single-player is disabled in beta. Only multi-player is available.

LOG
07-08-2010, 07:44 PM
Aaaaaaand, beta phase 2 is u (http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25626351012&sid=5000)p, back to getting regularly steamrolled...

LOG
07-09-2010, 02:25 AM
WoW Korea gets it for free... (http://www.thenonews.com/news/game-news/item/686-korean-world-of-warcraft-players-get-starcraft-2-for-free.html)

Oh, and Hitler heard the news (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiauaGbxipA&). (That may be the funniest parody of it I've ever seen.)

defcon6000
07-12-2010, 02:31 PM
/pouts

I want to play SC2 for free - oh wait, I don't have a computer that can it. BOO!!!

Okay, let's just get our nation completely obsessed with a game (I pick DA), televised sports and everything and then we'll get to play it's sequels for free. Go!

Lhun
07-13-2010, 07:07 AM
Getting ready for the competition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q&feature=player_embedded) yet?

LOG
07-13-2010, 11:57 PM
Getting ready for the competition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbpCLqryN-Q&feature=player_embedded) yet?

And that is why I don't play multi-player matches.

Lhun
07-14-2010, 06:26 AM
That's why i play strategy games instead of arcade shooters that pretend to be one. :D

LOG
07-16-2010, 06:24 AM
They're learning. (http://beta-us.battle.net/en/info/digital-purchase)

Taking a note out of companies like Biowares book, Blizz has made it possible to download the game beforehand, with it being unlocked on the day of release.

You download it right now, pay on the launch day, saves play time from becoming download time. Imma go play DOW while it DL's. 7GB download.

Edit: Oh, and the new Battle.net site is up, although it's still beta. Everything will be moving there eventually, except for the community site, maybe.

defcon6000
07-17-2010, 02:22 AM
You download it right now, pay on the launch day, saves play time from becoming download time. Imma go play DOW while it DL's. 7GB download.
So that's where all my bandwidth went the other week (my brother was downloading it).

It's a smart move on their part, instead of everyone downloading all at once, which I'm sure is going to be a crazy amount.

LOG
07-17-2010, 03:21 AM
The option has been available for maybe two days at best.
Sorry, your brother was probably just downloading massive amounts of pr0n :P

defcon6000
07-17-2010, 06:41 AM
Ha! I wouldn't doubt it. It sucked too, I was in a 25 ICC that night. >.<

LOG
07-23-2010, 08:17 AM
Join the Dominion propaganda event is over (http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/). Final content released was a video called Ghosts of the Past which offered a lot of small snippets of cut-scenes we'll probably be seeing in-game.

LOG
07-25-2010, 12:21 AM
I love Ghosts of the Past, it may be one of if not the best game trailer I've ever seen. It's not really the visuals, though those are pretty awesome, it's the voices and the soundtrack that accompany it. I've heard the video over twenty times now and I'm still going...

LOG
07-25-2010, 09:38 PM
Darn people throwing spoilers all over the forums, I'm gonna have to quarantine myself from gaming forums until the 27th...and probably well after as well. At least until I beat the game.

LOG
07-26-2010, 10:25 PM
So for some reason it's live in Southeast Asia before here...eh?
I thought it was supposed to be a global release...

29-missions in total, one less than Starcraft and three more than Brood Wars.

So definitely a full game, bunch of idiots still think it's only 1/3 of a game.

whistlelock
07-27-2010, 01:54 AM
Well, it kinda is 1/3rd of a very large game.

I kinda like the idea of 3 full sized games for each race. it'll make a nice gold edition once they're all out.

LOG
07-27-2010, 05:56 AM
I kinda like the idea of 3 full sized games for each race. it'll make a nice gold edition once they're all out.

Grief; the building times alone would make it near Oblivion levels of time consumption :P

LOG
07-27-2010, 08:21 AM
It's 12 GB!!

12 Gigabytes!

That's like 1.21 Gigawatts!!!!
But larger!!

(More updates as they come.)

Edit: Install went pretty fast, more MB on top of the GB for patches...

Zoombie
07-27-2010, 09:13 AM
Wow! Also, I'm sad, I don't get the game for another few hours.

LOG
07-27-2010, 09:15 AM
Patched, options are all set up.
It is now, 11 hours and 45 minutes until it unlocks in North America. My options are sleeping or taking up wood carving...

LOG
07-27-2010, 09:07 PM
So 10 AM PDT rolls around, and the Battle.net servers crash.
I'll bet it looked exactly like a DOS attack :P

Zoombie
07-27-2010, 09:18 PM
I'm playing right now :D

LOG
07-27-2010, 09:41 PM
I just got in.

Going through the tutorial ( I always do.)

Zoombie
07-27-2010, 09:58 PM
I really like how they are telling the story.

LOG
07-28-2010, 12:03 PM
Been playing for the last 13 hours, gonna go sleep.
Stopping at 485 points, still not finished yet.

LOG
07-29-2010, 08:11 AM
Finished my first playthrough on normal, ended at 735 points, and I never once lost a mission, get everything on the first try. Of course, it was on normal.

Probably gonna play through on casual now at a more leisurely pace for just for kicks.

Then I have to find some people to teach me how to be good, because seriously, a lot of the time I found myself just fumbling, throwing stuff out, but not entirely sure how it would play out. Like losing 3 Thors to the Leviathan...
Also need serious help with being economical on missions with scarce resources.

*SPOILERS*
On the ending, I liked it. I hope HotS shakes things up because it was a bit sappy... Not surprised about Findlay, I think it was Duran who had him freed.
In Utter Darkness was a pretty cool level, even gave me a pretty depressive mood.
When I first heard we were invading Char I was just like "Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?!" You don't invade Char, Char invades you!
My first though on seeing this new Kerrigan was "Thank god they got rid of the heels." Seriously, what was up with those?
Anyway, info on Heart of the Swarm says that Kerrigan will still be in control of the Zerg, so she's only partially human I guess...


On a side note, Selendis may be the coolest Protoss character ever besides Tassadar and Zeratul. I hope she's a main character if not the main character in Legacy of the Void.

Anyone who's interested in looking me up, my name is Majila.

Zoombie
07-29-2010, 08:50 AM
I've been taking my time, and enjoying the hell out of the story. Won't be reading that spoiler for quite a while, LOG.

LOG
07-29-2010, 10:57 AM
You know what, I lied.
Casual is too easy, going for hard.
Imma do it easy mode with mechs and a science vessel.

Insane achievement, beat the campaign in under 8 hours on normal.
Madness.
Every mission would have to be done in 18 minutes or less. That's simply not possible on a few.

LOG
07-29-2010, 10:11 PM
Selendis may be the coolest thing I've seen from Blizzard since the Warbringer talent.

Zoombie
07-30-2010, 08:32 PM
Damn. I really wish that Nova had a full game now. She's awesome!

LOG
07-30-2010, 08:57 PM
Best review I've seen yet. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN3QH9OhXf0)
It's one from gamerzines.
Don't watch unless you've played the Valhalla planet.
But if you have there will be no spoilers.

Zoombie
07-31-2010, 03:23 AM
Beat it!

I liked the ending ^_^

I also TOTALLY CALLED IT FOUR YEARS AGO!

I was at camp and I said, "Ya know what? SC2 should end this way..."

AND IT DID!

LOG
07-31-2010, 03:39 AM
Eh, I thought it was kind of incomplete.
There are several issues, but more than anything I just have to sit back and wonder; What did the other three people in the room think about all this?

Zoombie
07-31-2010, 08:46 AM
They were either Raynor's boys, so they trusted him...or they were Dominion Marines under Valerian, in which case they didn't care about Acturus's plans and so on. They want their boy to one up the old man, cha.

LOG
07-31-2010, 09:48 AM
But I saw Warfield's cyber arm...

Anyways: Most epic thread in the SC2 forums yet. (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248104809)

LOG
08-01-2010, 04:17 AM
Anyone wanna get together and try for some team league wins?
Dur, forgot to mention; name is Majila, number is eight-hundred twenty-nine.

I ish smartesz.

LOG
08-01-2010, 11:22 PM
This is a public service announcement; hackers are beginning to sprout in SC2. They were present even in beta, but they have begun to show themselves now as well.
Ownage is a known hacker (http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/791268/1/Ownage/ladder/1878/#current-rank).
He uses a crash hack, which causes the opponents game to mysteriously freeze a few second after beginning.

Please do your best to keep Blizzard aware and have them make this sort of thing impossible, and enforce bans, unlike in BW...

defcon6000
08-02-2010, 04:24 AM
So SC2 is turning your laptop video card into scrambled eggs (http://www.dailytech.com/Hot+Starcraft+II+is+Frying+Graphics+Cards+Blizzard +Issues+Temporary+Fix/article19224.htm).

Or people could be smart and just get a a fan. ;)

Zoombie
08-02-2010, 04:29 AM
The trick to getting someone to give up sometimes has less to do with tactics and more with attitude. Blitzing someone makes them wanna give up...but stymie a blitz - as hard as it is - is sometimes enough to make players quit the field.

Also, you'd be shocked how often the key to victory is to remember the immortal words of Jason Nesmith aka Quincy Taggert: NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

LOG
08-02-2010, 05:26 AM
I aint too worried about my temp.

Also, I'm 5 points from 1K AP.

Zoombie
08-02-2010, 06:30 AM
wooohooo!

LOG
08-03-2010, 02:21 AM
<<Is now a Prophecy Master.

LOG
08-03-2010, 04:50 AM
Excerpt from TvTropes; very true, and should be fixed somehow.

...the Mothership is top-tier tech, but it takes longer to build than entire buildings and costs more too, the most expensive unit ever at 400/400 and 8 psi. For your huge investment you get an embarassingly slow unit that is basically a buffed up Arbiter from the first game with a cloaking field, Recall, and Vortex ability that absorbs enemy units into nothingness. For the tech level, cost, time to build it and its speed to get it into battle, you won't get much use of out it in practical circumstances. Blizzard has outright stated they know it isn't all that useful except as a symbol of a player's economy that they can afford the damn thing.

LOG
08-03-2010, 05:31 AM
I laughed myself sick. (http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/starcraft-unit-strategy.php?page=1)

Zoombie
08-03-2010, 09:06 AM
To be frank, I'm still bummed that Warcraft Adventures never came out.

They wrote a great book (Lord of the Clans) based off the story of Warcraft Adventures, but they never made the game. Which is a shame, cause it looked bad ass.

LOG
08-03-2010, 04:00 PM
Bug announcement; the achievement Sacrifice Nothing will bug if you have the upgrade to create medics without a tech lab add-on, if you wish to complete this you must do the achievement before purchasing that upgrade.

Some seriously annoying bug issues that need to be smoothed over.

LOG
08-03-2010, 04:58 PM
In case you haven't seen it yet: Advice from the Queen of Blades (http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/248106672).

Freelancer
08-03-2010, 09:57 PM
StarCraft 2 has a serious bug which is capable to send your video card to "graphic card heaven" as it did already with few since the release.

http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/223306,how-to-dust-away-starcraft-2-overheating-issues.aspx

I've experienced the same serious overheat in my graphic card after few hours of play, but there is an easy fix, which is described in the article.

Lhun
08-03-2010, 10:29 PM
Had the chance to try it a couple of hours (well, more like a dozen) and i'll give it 7, maybe 8. Let's say 7,5. Sure it's a really cool SF movie that got wrapped in a game, but that game is thoroughly mediocre. Can't really say i'm disappointed, because it's exactly what i expected, exactly the same as before, with a few tiny improvements and about as many other things making it worse.
The tragedy is that because it's Blizzard, reviewers are actually saying it's more of the same, just prettier, and then give it 95-100 points. If any other company delivered just more of the same, but prettier, there's no chance they'll get more than 80.
Personally, i'll wait for Ruse, that has some promise to be actually a strategy game.

Freelancer
08-03-2010, 10:45 PM
In my opinion it's between 7.5-8.5. It's the same StarCraft with a better graphic and with some extra stuff. The story was cliché here and there and wasn't that epic at all. The ending was also a cliché and due to the intro movie, it was very predictable.

Although I liked it. I've finished the game twice since the release day. I wanted to see the alternate missions and the secret mission (Plus I wanted to try out the other units what I never used for the first time.). The major problems appeared during the second walkthrough as after the first walkthough you'll notice... your actions, your decisions have no real effect on anything at all (Not even in the news sequences.). Basically the Hyperion scenes are nothing less, nothing more than a quality menu system with some dialogues. It's a great illusion. They seems great, but if you look behind the curtain, it's nothing more than a fancy graphic menu system with few extra option and few lines of dialogues.

So for the first walkthrough it wasn't a disappointment at all. But it was already a disappointment for the second walkthrough where I already noticed the mistakes in the presentation and the design.

SC2 is not bad at all, but it's not that good either as the game reviews advertised.

LOG
08-03-2010, 11:16 PM
I think it's great. At least the campaign is.
When most gaming companies try more of the same the original product wasn't that great, and they deserve bad reviews.
But Blizzard honestly didn't need to change much, 12 years later and this formula still works great. Why should they have bothered to change it?

The story has its issues no doubt, but still not enough to make me think less of it, the original Starcraft was hardly a shining example of story either.

If there was something that could make me think less of this game, it's BNet 2.0
Absolute crap.

Freelancer
08-03-2010, 11:22 PM
If there was something that could make me think less of this game, it's BNet 2.0
+1. Plus I don't like when a program is forcing me to connect to the net when I play single player. If the net fails by some unknown reason, the single fails with it. Although I don't know why I must authenticate my account in every 30th day on BNet. What happens if I don't do that, because... I don't know, I'm working two month in a row and I don't have any time to do anything with games (It's not that impossible at all.). BNet kicks me out forever?

Lhun
08-04-2010, 12:32 AM
I think it's great. At least the campaign is.
When most gaming companies try more of the same the original product wasn't that great, and they deserve bad reviews.
But Blizzard honestly didn't need to change much, 12 years later and this formula still works great. Why should they have bothered to change it?Well obviously, they shouldn't have changed anything, or shouldn't have bothered, since the Blizzard hype will sell anything, as long as it isn't buggy or total crap.
But Starcraft 2 isn't a great game, and neither were Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 1. As RTS games they're mediocre at best, if you even call them that. They're more like arcade shooters trying to masquerade as RTS games.
I mean seriously, Blizzard saw fit to finally include queued orders in SC2, something that was way ovedue in WC3, but they still have that ridiculous 5 unit queue limit for production buildings? And when you queue up units or buildings you have to have the resources up front? It's like they're deliberately trying to increase the amount of clicks necessary. A strategy game is supposed to be about making the right decisions, not about being fast enough with a mouse&keyboard to convey those decisions. If it's about fast controller handling, it's an arcade shooter.

Freelancer
08-04-2010, 12:45 AM
A strategy game is supposed to be about making the right decisions, not about being fast enough with a mouse&keyboard to convey those decisions. There was a game, Conquest - Frontier Wars (UbiSoft / Digital Anvil) which was based on StarCraft, but with space ships (Even the upgrades and the sides were similar, Terran, Mantis and Celareon... Mantis = Zerg, Celareon = Protoss). Now that program had a very interesting feature as you had a chance to play 16 maps simultaneously. If SC2 would have this little improvement what CFW had almost 10 years ago, SC2 would be awesome. That little add-on which gave you to opportunity to play on 16 maps in the very same time immediately killed this "click faster to win" and "rush" stuffs from the game which had the very same setup. Plus in CFW there was another insteresting feature, called as Admirals, which was a pretty good atmospheric element too. You had the chance to assign heroes to ships, carriers, battlecruisers (Basically they were an unarmed hero with a shuttle and you had the chance to decide what their role will be in the war.). You also needed to care with the ammo and build supply lines between the maps, which forced you to meditate on the right strategy.

So basically even a copy-paste program, Conquest - Frontier Wars was better in gameplay.

LOG
08-04-2010, 01:36 AM
But Starcraft 2 isn't a great game, and neither were Warcraft 3 or Starcraft 1. As RTS games they're mediocre at best, if you even call them that. They're more like arcade shooters trying to masquerade as RTS games.
I mean seriously, Blizzard saw fit to finally include queued orders in SC2, something that was way ovedue in WC3, but they still have that ridiculous 5 unit queue limit for production buildings? And when you queue up units or buildings you have to have the resources up front? It's like they're deliberately trying to increase the amount of clicks necessary. A strategy game is supposed to be about making the right decisions, not about being fast enough with a mouse&keyboard to convey those decisions. If it's about fast controller handling, it's an arcade shooter.

Seems more a matter of interpretation to me then. Since a great deal of people think those games are just fine with their systems.
What does matter how well it fits the genre's expectations as long as it's fun? I mean, what else could we honestly categorize it as?

Beyond that, I have to wonder what you would have different. Of course there's a lot of clicking, especially depending on what you're managing, how is that strange?

LOG
08-04-2010, 05:05 AM
http://feedthegamer.info/2010-08-02/pachter-subscription-plans-expected-for-call-of-duty-and-starcraft-ii/


FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Freelancer
08-04-2010, 05:16 AM
http://feedthegamer.info/2010-08-02/pachter-subscription-plans-expected-for-call-of-duty-and-starcraft-ii/

And the downfall of Blizzard, under the umbrella of the greedy Activision begins. No one is going to pay anything for these, i.e. to play SC2 online. Especially after people already paid 60 bucks for 1/3 of a game (At least many considering it as 1/3. For me it was a full game. I always prefered the terrans and their storyline.). Activision goes way too far. Again.

Zoombie
08-04-2010, 05:24 AM
They do know that is really stupid, right?

Freelancer
08-04-2010, 05:36 AM
They do know that is really stupid, right? Do you know who is leading Activision, right? Bobby Kotick. He got his nick, Kotick McDuck with a reason.

http://images.lazygamer.co.za/2009/11/KotickMcduck.jpg

I believe this picture explains everything.

Zoombie
08-04-2010, 06:02 AM
Ya know, i was reading a Duck Tails comicbook (the one that inspired Inception) and Scrooge McDuck actually had a really exciting early life. The guy was fucking Indiana Jones!

Freelancer
08-04-2010, 06:13 AM
Ya know, i was reading a Duck Tails comicbook (the one that inspired Inception) and Scrooge McDuck actually had a really exciting early life. The guy was fucking Indiana Jones!:) If Kottick plans to gather money from everything via BNet (Including SC2 and the upcoming Diablo 3), I predict his life will be pretty short and he is not going to play Indiana Jones that's for sure. The Koreans are going to take him out or they revert back to SC1, just as many will do. Or they'll use cracked version. The people are already angry because of the "No LAN" support, which was rather an Activision decision in the development of SC2 to stop piracy. Actually... what an efficient anti-pirate protocol SC2 had via BNet. It worth the effort... as it was cracked before the release. Hooray. It just made everyone's life a lot harder. Connect to play single player, authenticate your version in every 30 days, store everything on distant servers, use your real name, address when you create your account, no chat, missing functions on BNet... and now the best, pay for it. Hah! Joke of the year.

Comparing to this, what the cracked version can offer? No connection and authentication is necessary, you may remain anonymus, and SC2 also will have LAN support as I read (Just as it had with the beta.). Do they really believe someone is going to pay for BNet? No. People are going to buy the releases, download the LAN and Server crack and bye-bye BNet.

Zoombie
08-04-2010, 06:37 AM
I wish they'd realize the best piracy ever would have been to just release Starcraft 2.

I mean, can you think of a better way to get millions - billions, even - of people to buy the game?

Freelancer
08-04-2010, 06:45 AM
I know few people who wanted to buy SC2 because of the single campaign (They don't care about the multi), but they rather downloaded the cracked version because of the BNet restrictions. Restrictions and stupid pirate countermeasure systems are just raising piracy instead of lowering it.

The best example is: Sins of a Solar Empire. That game had no protection, no serial (Just for the updates) and voila, it had pretty good sales (Even the pirates helped Stardock to sell more. The pirates advertised SoaSe, because they loved Stardock's customer centric approach.). Comparing to this; Mass Effect 1 first copy protection reduced the sales (Just check the feedbacks at Amazon. Most negative reviews are because of the DRM.). Same with SC2. Regardless what you can see in the media, the sales of SC2 is quite below than what they originally waited (Around with a million+ is the difference.). And everything is because of the multicorp approach and the enforced restrictions.

Summary: No enforced multicorp restrictions, less piracy. Unfortunately Activision can't understand this and they just want to raise the stakes with this monthly fee idea... brilliant.

Zoombie
08-04-2010, 07:28 AM
Eventually they'll learn.

Or they'll go out of buisness.

...or they won't and we'll keep buying their damn games.

LOG
08-04-2010, 07:34 AM
I couldn't care less about Activision.

I just wish I could rewind time and convince Blizzard that agreeing to be bought by them was a horrible, horrible idea.

Freelancer
08-04-2010, 07:34 AM
You're right. But if I follow the tradition what I started to apply for EA, I'm not going to buy game from Activision, just from Blizzard.

Blizzard deserves the trust. Activision... now, that's a different story.


I just wish I could rewind time and convince Blizzard that agreeing to be bought by them was a horrible, horrible idea.
+1.

Zoombie
08-04-2010, 07:59 AM
Yeah, I'd have thought that Blizzard had this kinda huge money basket. Called WoW...

Lhun
08-04-2010, 08:47 PM
So basically even a copy-paste program, Conquest - Frontier Wars was better in gameplay.Yep, i remember that game. And gameplay is the only thing that irks me about SC2, or Blizzard in general, really. I mean, i prefer the SupCom 1 approach to the genre, but that's a matter of preference.
But there are many choices Blizzard made with SC2 that are just plain bad. They finally included queuing orders as mentioned, but that is something every RTS should have, there's no excuse why WC3 didn't have it. And it's not a gameplay question, it just improves handling with no downsides. Similarly, factories just need infinite queues, with a repeat production button. That way you can queue up your favorite unit mix and need only check back when you want to change something. But Blizzard prefers to force players to check back on their barracks for every 5 produced marines. It needlessly increases the number of clicks needed to manage your production and adds nothing in return.
I mean, stuff like caster units increases micromanagement, and i'm not too happy about the concept, but at least there's an argument to be made for them. But the production handling is atrocious. Hell, even C&C (yes C&C 1) had a menu that allowed you to order production of units from anywhere on the map, you didn't need to scroll/switch back to your base to produce more. Unit AI isn't much better. If you have units that can effectively kite enemies, you should be able to set the AI to do that automatically if you want it to, not be forced to babysit them. Not mention minor annoyances, like the fact that you're supplied with completely useless information like the number of kills a unit has (totally pointless without an experience/veterancy system) but don't get essential information, like a graphic display of the weapon range.
Leaving aside the question of taste when it comes to gameplay differences, SupCom 2 is a shining example of how to make the handling of a strategy game as easy on the player as possible, (and even though that could be improved, improvements are always possible and GPG at least tried)
but SC2 leads to the conclusion that the programmers either only learn one lesson a decade or just don't care.
Maybe it's because, as someone from Shrapnel put it, "Blizzard could create a match three game and sell a million copies on the launch day". Maybe they're so afraid to change their obviously winning formula that they don't even dare risk including obvious improvements.

Lhun
08-04-2010, 08:54 PM
The best example is: Sins of a Solar Empire. That game had no protection, no serial (Just for the updates) and voila, it had pretty good sales (Even the pirates helped Stardock to sell more. The pirates advertised SoaSe, because they loved Stardock's customer centric approach.).I always liked Baen Books experiment with their free library. They found that offering free ebooks would actually raise the number sold of those very books, not only (as expected) of other books in the same series.
But a lot of the anti-piracy talk in the games and music industry (and the still small ebook industry) is just posturing anyway. It's more intended to prevent used games sales than to prevent piracy.
Because unlike a pirated copy, which usually isn't a lost sale, but a sale of another game the "pirate" liked better, every used game sale is money lost to the publisher. That might still turn up down the line if the seller invests in more games (likely) but an active used game market creates a huge shift in revenue. Bad and mediocre games start circulating in huge numbers on the used market, because people want to get rid of them after trying them out, and invest the money into one of the few really good games they keep.

LOG
08-11-2010, 12:52 AM
Blizzard seems unconcerned with SC2 piracy. (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Warcraft-StarCraft-Piracy,11046.html)

Also, Blizzard's Michael Ryder states in an interview that Activision hasn't messed with Blizzard at all (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Warcraft-StarCraft-Piracy,11046.html)...that doesn't ease my concerns.

“Since we had our merger with Activision, it hasn’t changed anything at Blizzard,” says Michael Ryder, vice president and executive managing director for Blizzard’s international operations.

harry.kent123
08-23-2010, 10:37 AM
A very traditional RTS game that brought nothing new to the table. The interface was quite unwieldy and dated considering it came out in 1998. The actual strategy/tactics emphasis was quite low, and battles were mostly stats vs stats and numbers vs numbers.

R.M. Watts
09-19-2010, 03:42 AM
After deliberating, I finally bought it. I'm obsessed with the story line...and I can't stop playing.

darkangel77
10-09-2010, 08:49 PM
Lol, same. My brother got it for me on my birthday. I really enjoyed the single player campaign, haven't played multiplayer all that much. I'm not very good at it, haha.


**SPOILER!!**





But I'm curious to know what happens to Kerrigan now that she's been de-infested...

LOG
01-19-2011, 09:03 AM
World of Starcraft, via SC2 editor. (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/01/18/world-of-starcraft-exists-sort-of.aspx)

Video is no longer available, but I can't say I'm surprised. Even only a few days after SC2's release you could see the massive potential in the editor.
I'm guessing it will end up a lot like the "RPG" games in WC3 battle.net, where a generated code will re-create your character upon entry.

LOG
02-13-2011, 01:06 AM
No Heart of the Swarm this year. (http://www.gamingunion.net/news/starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm-unlikely-this-year--3985.html)
World of Starcraft is still going strong as Starcraft Universe (http://www.techspot.com/news/42356-world-of-starcraft-reborn-as-starcraft-universe.html), which sounds like a much better name.

Aylaa
03-20-2011, 03:09 AM
add me for some 1v1s team or customs

Aylaa 820

LOG
04-28-2011, 06:30 PM
Marine Arena flame turrets suck.

LOG
04-30-2011, 11:36 PM
In other news, Starjewled and Aiur Chef are pretty fun.
And Desert Strike on epic slays my computer.

LOG
05-04-2011, 04:38 AM
We can always use more Starcraft demotivational posters:
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0807/en-taro-adun-starcraft-demotivational-poster-1215298782.jpg
http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/rr326/NCallahan_album/starcraft_poster.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2299/2118946035_5f8f2e45cf_o.png

parumpdragon
05-19-2011, 09:09 AM
I really loved the original StarCrafts, does anyone know if they still make/include the cheat codes for first person single player campaign? I am horrible at games, this is the only one I could ever make any ground on and not because I was playing fair. :)

Cliff Face
06-04-2011, 01:51 PM
StarCraft 1 Cheat Codes. (http://au.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/starcraft/cheats.html) :)

If you were asking if they had StarCraft 2 cheat codes... Here. (http://www.cheatcc.com/pc/starcraft2cheatscodes.html#.Ten_cltYFK0) :)

...

Personally, I haven't bought StarCraft 2 yet. I used to be addicted to the simpleness of the original. But with the new graphics of #2, it looks less simple to me. Like, certain RTS games just aren't playable for me when their graphics make it too hard to strategise and focus and everything.

Also, I'm not sure my current computer is powerful enough to play #2...

parumpdragon
06-04-2011, 08:20 PM
Yeah, I miss WarCraft and the little pixelated orcs!

*Thinks about breaking out old 1999 computer downstairs to play it* :D

THere was something fun about those graphics and just simply great because even a daft-gameplayer like me could figure it out and follow it. :)

Thanks! You rock!!!

Cliff Face
06-05-2011, 02:34 AM
:)

I remember trying to play Total Annihilation (I think it was that one) and the "enhanced" graphics just made me frustrated to the point of giving up.

Zoombie
06-05-2011, 03:49 AM
Starcraft 2 is very scalable. Its hard to imagine a computer that can't run it.

Also, Total Annihilation was amazing. Easily one of the best RTS games of all time.

LOG
06-24-2011, 07:02 AM
Heart of the Swarm footage and interview. (http://pc.ign.com/articles/117/1178091p1.html)
OMGOMGOMG
We get to see a few brief glimpses at the new Kerrigan.
Yes, she still has tendril hair. And her skin tone still seem a bit darker than it original was as a human. She also seems to be wearing a Ghost uniform.

Deizelcore
01-18-2012, 05:13 PM
Heart of the Swarm footage and interview.
OMGOMGOMG
We get to see a few brief glimpses at the new Kerrigan.
Yes, she still has tendril hair. And her skin tone still seem a bit darker than it original was as a human. She also seems to be wearing a Ghost uniform.

Over-hyped, just like everything by Blizzard (not to say I'm not excited).

LOG
01-18-2012, 06:22 PM
Blizzard doesn't really over-hype since it delivers.
Now Lionhead and Molyneux, they over-hype.

Deizelcore
01-26-2012, 11:09 PM
Blizzard doesn't really over-hype since it delivers.
Now, Lionhead and Molyneux, they over-hype.

They do. Most of the times they do.

Deizelcore
02-01-2012, 05:08 PM
It's not exactly SCII related but:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=307766

MBCgame (progaming channel/league) ceased to exist recently. It's a sad time for competitive gaming.

LOG
03-23-2012, 08:29 AM
Nerdy and I Know It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lskNTCzdLNE)
New NerdAlert song, even with their record I wasn't sure if they could pull off a parody of Sexy and I Know It, but I think they pulled it off.
I wish one of these days Kurt would beat Husky though. :S

LOG
11-26-2012, 07:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG_3R9BoVvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxLIJfucJ7E

Release date is March 12, 2013

Really must get back to beating WoL on the harder difficulties.

LOG
02-22-2013, 11:24 PM
From Twitch:

With StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm arriving in just a few short weeks, Blizzard Entertainment is looking forward to unveiling a new trailer -- entitled "Vengeance" -- during a special live online event on Twitch. You'll see the making of "Vengeance" with Blizzard developers, the world premiere of the "Vengeance" trailer, and an exclusive Heart of the Swarm showmatch, casted by TotalBiscuit and dApollo. Remember to use the hashtag #Vengeance to participate!

WHERE: http://twitch.tv/starcraft (http://twitch.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=c782b16a82082e2741d47d583&id=4a407db1e9&e=9b3febecd5)
WHEN: Tuesday, February 26, 12PM PST
INFO: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8765793/Special_Online_Event_February_26-2_21_2013 (http://twitch.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=c782b16a82082e2741d47d583&id=5807f244ef&e=9b3febecd5)


Will give me something to do while GW2 is patching.

LOG
04-08-2013, 03:17 PM
Finished the campaign.
I don't think it was as good as Wings of Liberty, but it was still a pretty good game. Wish it was a bit harder. Normal mode should at least require some different unit uses other than constant Zergling/Hydralisk/Ultralisk combos. Also, why the buck does Kerrigan wear high-heels?

My Evolution pit:
Raptor Zergling: Hardened Carapace: Gain an additional 10 hp.
Hunter Baneling: Rupture: Increase splash damage area by 50%.
Vile Roach: Tunneling Claws: Move at full speed when burrowed, and gain 100% life regen rate.
Impaler Hydralisk: Grooved Spines: Gain +1 attack range.
Viper Mutalisk: Vicious Glaive: Attacks deal increased damage and travel further, bouncing three more times for up to six targets.
Creeper Swarm Host: Pressurized Glands: Locusts can attack both ground and air units.
Noxious Ultralisk: Monarch Blades: Gains +20 splash damage (an increase of 400%), dealing equal damage to both primary and secondary targets now.

Kerrigan:
Kinetic Blast
Chain Reaction + Fury = lots of dead light units
Zergling Reconstitution: broken as buck
Mend: needs microing, but pretty good
Twin Drones: because who has time to spread enough creep to make Malignant Creep worthwhile?
Apocalypse

LOG
04-11-2013, 05:23 AM
Thought this was a pretty good review. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ATsniOsMRU)