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MsGneiss
06-30-2009, 06:05 PM
Maybe the title is a bit misleading. Here's what I meant -

I have the terrible habit of reading ALL the books in a series, when it's probably best to stop at just the first one. Here are some examples of series that got progressively worse with every book:

Dune (especially the ones written by his son, ugh!), Dresden Files, Southern Vampire Mysteries, Ender's Game (but I loved the parallel Bean series), even the last books of the Foundation series, where Asimov ties the story in with the Robot series were disappointing by comparison to the first three books.

What's on your list?

justwondering
06-30-2009, 06:39 PM
This isn't quite an answer to your question but I am so glad I never kept up with Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.

A vast meandering story over 12 volumes (each 500-1000 pages) with more loose ends than a plate of spaghetti - and then the author dies before completing the last one.

scarletpeaches
06-30-2009, 06:44 PM
The Anita Blake books, from what I hear. I've only read the first two.

Canotila
06-30-2009, 06:50 PM
Twilight.

Mortal Instruments.

I have a terrible, terrible time not finishing things that come in a series. It eats away at me. That's why I put down Eragon after the prologue.

I also read every single Goosebumps, Nancy Drew, and Boxcar Children book. It was kind of a waste of time, but then again I was a kid so it was probably better than playing nintendo.

FOTSGreg
06-30-2009, 06:53 PM
The War Against The Chtorr. It's been something like 20 years since the last book and still David keeps on promising the last/latest book in the 5-book "trilogy". I love Gerrold's writing, but there's gotta' come a time when it's obvious that the series is never going to be finished and the author's lost interest.

The Sword (CashCow) of Shannara. If it's possible to write the same book over and over again, Terry Brooks found the way.

Vomaxx
06-30-2009, 07:12 PM
Brandon Sanderson, who was chosen to finish the "final volume" in Wheel of Time, has now announced that it will take him three more volumes to finish the story. It's incredible. The series that will not die. Perhaps Jordan's successor should have been, not an author, but a vampire-hunter who could drive a stake through it.

Lissibith
06-30-2009, 07:22 PM
Have to second the Shannara books and the Wheel of Time. And sucker that I am, I'll be reading all the rest of the WoT books as well.

I suppose it's beneficial in a way though - after reading Wheel of Time to its current point, I now hate letting any plot run on too long, which I suspect is a good thing for someone as wordy as I generally am :)

Lisa Cox
06-30-2009, 07:46 PM
Twilight. I read them all out of some twisted obligation to finish the series, and managed to kill more than a few braincells in the process. And I didn't even like Twilight to begin with! I'm a pain with series books. If I read the first, I have to read the rest, so I tend to be selective about which series books I pick up now.

I've just read the first in "The Demon's Lexicon" -- so that's another series to finish as and when it's released. I've also just bought "City of Bones" (two more to go in that series), "Vampire Academy" (not sure how many more in that series), and "Marked" (I think three more). I have to read YA fantasy because it's my genre, and yet they rarely come as standalone novels. Grr.

Roger J Carlson
06-30-2009, 07:50 PM
The Honor Harrington series by David Weber. The last two books have been dreadful.

But my all time top pick is the Xanth series by Piers Anthony. The first 3 books were clever. The next 27 (or however many there are) were formula.

KTC
06-30-2009, 07:51 PM
I loved the first four or five books of Rice's Vampire Chronicles...then...ARGH! It went downhill fast. She should have thrown in the towel.

Wark
06-30-2009, 07:54 PM
Another vote for Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time. Just stop at book five, or whichever one had Mat as a General.

Ender's game...It ended after speaker for the dead. The other stuff was not Ender, at least not to me. But, yeah, I've heard some of the spinoffs are good.

Calla Lily
06-30-2009, 07:57 PM
The Ian Rutledge mysteries by Charles Todd. The first 4 or 5 were wonderful, heartbreaking, fascinating. The last few have focused on supporting characters and whatever mystery is happening, not on Rutledge. :cry: The authors created a strong, likeable, believeable character and are wasting him.

Kathleen42
06-30-2009, 07:58 PM
Feeling compelled to finish a series is something I gave up after highschool. That being said, series which I've abandoned are:

The Wheel of Time
The Sookie Stackhouse/Southern Vampire Mysteries
The Anita Blake series

MsGneiss
06-30-2009, 08:07 PM
Feeling compelled to finish a series is something I gave up after highschool. That being said, series which I've abandoned are:

The Wheel of Time
The Sookie Stackhouse/Southern Vampire Mysteries
The Anita Blake series

I gave up Anita Blake after two books, but I feel like I'll come back to it.

Namatu
06-30-2009, 08:08 PM
The Anita Blake books, from what I hear. I've only read the first two.Good to stop when you did. I read four or five in that series. It was one too many.

Kathleen42
06-30-2009, 08:12 PM
Good to stop when you did. I read four of five in that series. It was one too many.

I actually didn't mind them up until book eight. After that, any semblance of story and character started suffering in order to squeeze in more and more sex.

SarahMacManus
06-30-2009, 08:27 PM
I usually just give them up, no regrets.
Wheel of Time (I actually couldn't get through the first one)
Lord of the Rings
Xanth

cathyfreeze
06-30-2009, 08:37 PM
Vicki Pettersson's The Second Sign of the Zodiac series. The first was slightly innovative and exciting, so i ran out and bought 3 more of 'em. Big mistake. They're all the same book. Her character never gets any smarter, never learns from her mistakes, and the bad guys keep getting away with *the same* things over and over.

Lilith Saintcrow's Dante Valentine series. In the first book, we have a very interesting girl who kicks ass and angsts over her past and her boyfriend. Lurv! So i bought a couple more (you think i'd have learned after Pettersson.) Book 2: girl angsts over her past and her boyfriend. Book 3: Girl angsts over her boyfriend and her past. Good god, girl! Get over it, already! I've got 4 and 5, too, but i haven't (and won't) read 'em. I have a sneaking suspicion she'll be angsting over her past and her boyfriend.

I have to agree with Sleepsheep about the Dresden Files, too. Not that he's always the same (or the plots are) but i found, after a while, that the author *has* fallen into a pattern of sorts (which he didn't have, at first) to wit: MC gets beat to a bloody pulp through 2/3rds of the book and *then,* when he should rightly be on the critical list, has to face the toughest guy (with no further boost of any kind of power or time to rest) and beat him. ::shakes head:: just doesn't pass my believability test.

OTOH, i've found some series that seem to get *better* with age:

Ilona Andrews' Kate Daniels series. Her characters grow and change and their relationships flower and/or die. :) And it's a fascinating twist on the urban fantasy idea.

Elizabeth Bear's series (any of 'em.) They're really more like progressive story lines, with her, i think. They're just yummy-good. ;)

cat

Shadow_Ferret
06-30-2009, 08:38 PM
I can't think of any series I regret having continued to read. I enjoy series. When I come across a character I really like, I look forward to all their adventures. I think I read nearly all the series Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote and don't regret a minute of it. And I wish I could find more of the old pulp serials, like The Shadow, Doc Savage, et al.

As far as Anita Blake, I think I read the first 8 or so. I only stopped because they were progressively getting more focused on the sex and less on the magic and adventure that drew me in in the first place.

LilliCray
06-30-2009, 08:39 PM
I liked Twilight the first time I read it. New Moon was actually really fun for me to read, considering the so-called "vampires" are AWOL almost the whole time. The other two I didn't like. Now I'm "editing" Twilight; I just found my copy of the book, and I'm going through it with a pencil (all my red pens died T.T) and fixing things. I've taken out a lot of references to the unnatural hotness of the "vampires."

I refuse to read anything in the Earth's Children series now. It seemed more like porn to me than anything else. I had to skip what felt like half of the second book to avoid all the sex. It was disgusting. Though, the non-porn parts were quite interesting.

I couldn't even get through the first twenty pages of Sword of Shannara. If I hadn't gotten it from the library, I would have bought a new box of red pens and gone to town on it. :D

I read the first book in the Pendragon series--the dimension-travelling and stuff. The storyline was kind of fun, but the characters were flat and boring. Someone died, and everyone was sad, and I was like, "Big deal. She died. Boo-hoo." I didn't care about any of the characters.

I wish I'd never picked up the Harry Potter series. I only started reading it because the fourth book was so delightfully long that I just had to read it, and my brother refused to let me until I read the first three. By the end of the series, I hated all the main characters. My favorite character was the evil lord dude. I wanted him to win in the end, in all honesty.

Phaeal
06-30-2009, 09:03 PM
I wish I'd never picked up the Harry Potter series. I only started reading it because the fourth book was so delightfully long that I just had to read it, and my brother refused to let me until I read the first three. By the end of the series, I hated all the main characters. My favorite character was the evil lord dude. I wanted him to win in the end, in all honesty.

Yeah, Voldie rocked, or could have. He got too muhahahaha-ish at times, but that devastating flayed fetus image in Book Seven redeemed him and JKR.

Never had a series I pursued to my regret, because if I don't like the first book, that's it. My favorite series now is Preston and Child's Pendergast & Friends saga. I'm also looking forward to the next book in Del Toro and Hogan's vampire epic, which just started with The Strain. The writing's a bit clunky, but in this case, the tasty pulp sweep of the story compensated for it.

MsGneiss
06-30-2009, 09:31 PM
I have to agree with Sleepsheep about the Dresden Files, too. Not that he's always the same (or the plots are) but i found, after a while, that the author *has* fallen into a pattern of sorts (which he didn't have, at first) to wit: MC gets beat to a bloody pulp through 2/3rds of the book and *then,* when he should rightly be on the critical list, has to face the toughest guy (with no further boost of any kind of power or time to rest) and beat him. ::shakes head:: just doesn't pass my believability test.


Thank you, Cathyfreeze, thank you very much. I loved the first couple of books of the Dresden Files, but by about book 4, the plots have become extremely formulaic. Not that I expected all that much creativity, but still, I feel a bit cheated. It's nice that the author tries to develop a deeper story about the character's history and the whole magical underworld. So, that's probably what kept me coming back. But really, it feels like such a cash cow, and as a reader, I resent it.

unicornjam
06-30-2009, 09:32 PM
Harry Potter. I got up to the fifth book and stopped. I originally stopped because I thought the fans were a bit nutty and I wanted no connections with that, but when I revisited them, I thought her writing was poor.

I think that was the last series I read? I don't have the patience for them, tbh.

M.R.J. Le Blanc
06-30-2009, 10:04 PM
The Dragon Quartet. The first books were great, and the fourth book was just a huge letdown. I can't quite put my finger on why, but the storytelling seemed to change and it was like Fire did a complete change in personality with no real explanation as to why. Which was a shame, he didn't seem the type to just shrug his shoulders and give up all of a sudden.

gonovelgo
06-30-2009, 10:24 PM
Yet another vote for the Wheel of Time series from me. I only made it to book seven, but even that was way too much. I should have stopped at the end of the second one.

kaitlin008
06-30-2009, 10:30 PM
I only made it through the first book of Wheel of Time...that was a really long time ago, too. I remember being really annoyed about some particular event that made me not want to continue, though to be honest I can't remember what now (can't remember too much about the book, either).

If I don't give up on a series after the first book, then I almost always won't give up.

I want to say that I regret reading the whole Twilight series, but I kind of don't. I like knowing what happened, even if I was unsatisfied. And Eragon has been sort of a struggle for me too, but I know I'll read the fourth book when it comes out. Again, though, not sure if regret is the right word for how I feel about picking it up.

roseangel
06-30-2009, 11:05 PM
Harry Potter, I love the first four books, but all the books after aren't near as good.

bettielee
07-01-2009, 12:03 AM
The Dragon Prince - Melanie Rawn. If I ever meet her, I am going to step on her foot. HARD.

cathyfreeze
07-01-2009, 01:31 AM
I loved the first four or five books of Rice's Vampire Chronicles...then...ARGH! It went downhill fast. She should have thrown in the towel.

Amen, speak it, brother!

Heh.

cat

dancingandflying
07-01-2009, 02:36 AM
The Harry Potter series. I like the first couple, but then it went downhill. Fast.

d&f.

blacbird
07-01-2009, 02:38 AM
I actually didn't mind them up until book eight. After that, any semblance of story and character started suffering in order to squeeze in more and more sex.

Hmm. May have to look into this one.

caw

scarletpeaches
07-01-2009, 03:30 AM
It's not even good sex, blaccy. I've flipped through the later books in Borders and Waterstone's and...ew. Just ew.

mscelina
07-01-2009, 03:37 AM
Let's see--Wheel of Time. You guys made it further than I did. I managed the first two books. Um...Kate Elliot's Crown of Stars series started to bore me after the fifth book. Not sure why--I didn't have any trouble with her writing style. I just lost interest. Any of Eddings' series after the Belgariad and the first Sparhawk series. Of course, after reading those I didn't need to really read the other series, did I?

There's probably more but those are the big--and most current--ones.

Chasing the Horizon
07-01-2009, 04:47 AM
Harry Potter. And what really makes me mad was that I enjoyed it up until the last half of the last book! :rant: I can't even say I learned anything from it because I already knew not to write a sucktacular ending to an otherwise good series.

I agree about Anne Rice going downhill after the first few books. I wasn't really upset about that, I just stopped reading after the fourth or so. It wasn't like she completely f'ed up an ending I'd been anticipating for seven whole books.

Krintar
07-01-2009, 05:04 AM
Generally if I don't like a book, I don't read any more - not just of the series, but often by the author. Even if they managed some good stuff earlier on in the series, if they give up on telling the story I give up on them.
As a result, Wheel of Time is the only series I think I went too far with. The way it was written, each book was meandering and largely pointless, but I enjoyed the finales so much that I put up with (well, skimmed) all the crap. So hey, after the truly epic ending to book 9, I spent all of #10 getting more and more amped for whatever utter insanity was about to be unleashed-
...and then it was over.
Where was the finale? The climax? The conclusion? There wasn't one.
Damned if I'll ever read another of them.

Caramia
07-01-2009, 05:14 AM
I loved the first four or five books of Rice's Vampire Chronicles...then...ARGH! It went downhill fast. She should have thrown in the towel.


That sums up my thinking too. Think I only got through two of the witch stories, meant to continue with those....oops.

K. Andrew Smith
07-01-2009, 05:22 AM
The Dark Tower series. The first several books were excellent, but the last two created such a whirling maelstrom of suck that I'm still struggling to get out.

Matera the Mad
07-01-2009, 06:42 AM
The only series I kept up with to the point of barf was Jean Auel's Earth's Children. It's not just the pink porn, but the gadawrful repetition and reality clangers. Not to mention verbosity and unfocused head-hoppery. I really loved Clan of the Cave Bear, but I am not one of Those Who Eagerly Await Book Six. :(

On the good side, I made some good Internet friendships over it, and sharpened up writing parody fan-fic -- which got me ready beta readers for what I'm doing now. :D

I dropped the Dune series when my credibility scanner crashed and boredom set in. Damn good start, then sand got in the gears.

Maiden
07-01-2009, 07:48 AM
I love books in series. I guess after investing time in characters fr one I want to see what happens.. no matter how unsatisfying it is. (But I have severe OCD I don't know what anyone else's excuse is. Yes, I like to play the crazy card.) I do find I read a lot of stuff I shouldn't.

WOT- Think I read to book 9. It has been awhile. I found myself speed reading through a lot of stuff though.

Anita Blake- I was a huge fan when I came upon the author, but eventually it was way to focused on the sex. I still felt obligated to continue reading even with the lack of non-sexual storyline. Last I read was Obsidian Butterfly (not sure what book that was.)


Twilight- Read them all. Glad its over. Only reason I did was because my son wanted to read them and I wanted to screen the books. Sad is the book I probably would have not waned him to read he read before he mentioned it.

Mortal Instruments- Same as Twilight... I wanted to read it before my son did. Didn't do much for me. One of those times I am glad I can read a couple books a day so I didn't spend much time on it. Not horrid or anything but just kinda "is."

But I can get into book series. I actually prefer them when well written.

Prit
07-01-2009, 08:18 AM
I actually got the the middle of book ten on Wheel of Time, but I wished that I'd stopped with book 3 or so. I just kept thinking that it was going to go somewhere, but it never did.

Also, His Dark Materials. I really didn't like the last book. It felt anticlimactic to me.

kennypro
07-01-2009, 08:57 AM
Earth's Children - I mean come on, it's been like a DECADE since the last one - Book 6 is a myth!!!

I am still waiting for the end of WoT - I just gotta believe that RJ had to have come up with some crazy stuff while he was dying, on top of resolving possibly the most complex plot ever put in a book, and Brandon Sanderson will probably breathe some new life into it.

Been working on Locke Lamora and Tales of the Otori - both good so far, but I never get my hopes up too much

Salis
07-01-2009, 09:53 AM
Wheel of Time, until I gave up around book eight.

Shweta
07-01-2009, 10:01 AM
Moving to the roundtable, as it's a reading rather than writing discussion :)

Captain Ian
07-01-2009, 12:41 PM
Tom Clancy.

White-Tean
07-01-2009, 02:34 PM
Robin Hobb's Soldier's Son trilogy.
Being a horse rider and having liked everything else I've read of hers more or less (there are a few things I've disliked about her previous works but in the past everything I read by her had been interesting) I was thrilled when the main character was going to be a member of the cavalry, because I thought, hey this could be really interesting and the character shows good strategic thinking.

Then of course, all that went away and there was three books (the last two I had to totally skim - though I did think there was maybe one redeeming point in the ending of the series) of squicky tree-person sex, consternation over being overweight and it totally not being the main character's fault, and argh, just WHAT THE HALIBUT was going on there?

I thought it was three books of commercially unviable author self-indulgence.
Totally still bitter about it.

Shara
07-01-2009, 02:35 PM
I do tend to give up on series if they start to disappoint. So here's my list:

Patricia Cornwell. I stuck with this for quite a long time. I was about 6 or 7 books in when I lost interest and haven't read any more since.

Dune (don't know anyone who's made it past Book 4)

Anne Rice (started reading Queen of the Damned twice and never managed to finish)

The Anita Blake series. I am currently about to finish Book 3, and I reckon going to stop there. Enjoyed the first 2 books, but have heard negative things about the rest of the series (including too much bad sex), and Book 3 is disappointing.

It's very disheartening to find a series you really love and then feel let down by the writer. I wonder whether the writers themselves fall out of love with their characters, but are pressurised to keep producing books by the publishers.

Shara

Vincent
07-01-2009, 02:50 PM
I could have put down Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series after book four, and stayed happy.

gonovelgo
07-01-2009, 03:02 PM
Reading this thread has prompted me to ask: how many long-running series are there that don't eventually go downhill?

caromora
07-01-2009, 03:08 PM
The Anita Blake books, from what I hear. I've only read the first two.

Yeah, I read all of these up until the book where one of Anita's boyfriends pretty much forces her to have sex with him in a shower right after they first meet. I picked up a couple after that but never got more than twenty or so pages in before giving up. I haven't even looked at the last couple. No thank you.

I devoured the Kay Scarpetta books...until the one dude who was dead wasn't really dead anymore, and Cornwell started writing the books in third person instead of first.

I'm still loving the Dresden Files (the last two have been solid, but not spectacular, for me) and the Sookie Stackhouse books, though I was majorly underwhelmed by the last book that came out.

ChaosTitan
07-01-2009, 05:41 PM
Reading this thread has prompted me to ask: how many long-running series are there that don't eventually go downhill?

Consider this: there are still rabid Laurell K Hamilton fans out there who eagerly await her next book, defend her story choices, and generally support their favorite author and series.

"Downhill" is all about personal taste, as is evidenced by series such as the Dresden Files and Southern Vampire Mysteries appearing on both this thread and the companion "still good" thread.

Plus I haven't seen anyone complaining about Rachel Caine's long-running Weather Warden or Morganville Vampire series going downhill (and they are on book 8, and....5 or 6? respectively).

megan_d
07-01-2009, 07:31 PM
Robin Hobb's Soldier's Son trilogy.


Totally with you on this one, I could barely make it through the first quarter o the second one. It's all 'oh, I'm so fat! And everyone is laughing at m 'cause I'm fat! But it's not my fault!'

Which is a shame, because I really liked the first one. I think It's the only trilogy I never finished. (Normally I have to know what happens, even if I'm not really enjoying the ride).

AuthorGuy
07-01-2009, 07:32 PM
Terry Goodkind, after the first book.
Anita Blake after Obsidian Butterfly.
Harry Potter after book 4.
Honor Harrington after Honor Among Enemies was pretty dreadful.
Dune after God-Emperor.
Never started WoT, no interest.
A Song of Ice and Fire, I read a few chapters of book 1 and stopped.
Xanth
Incarnations of Immortality (should have stopped with Evil)
Pern, stopped at Dragondawn.

Miguelito
07-01-2009, 08:27 PM
Brandon Sanderson, who was chosen to finish the "final volume" in Wheel of Time, has now announced that it will take him three more volumes to finish the story. It's incredible. The series that will not die. Perhaps Jordan's successor should have been, not an author, but a vampire-hunter who could drive a stake through it.

Maybe we should have a Sanderson death-watch going to see if he finishes it before he dies.

Wheel of Time I gave up after book 5 and I regret going that far.

I couldn't even make it through Book 1 of Goodkind's Sword of Truth series.

White-Tean
07-01-2009, 08:46 PM
Maybe we should have a Sanderson death-watch going to see if he finishes it before he dies.

Sanderson is young and believes in clean living and writes fast, so I think he'll probably outlive the series.

So saying, I didn't like how he ended his Mistborn trilogy.


Robin Hobb's Soldier's Son trilogy.
Totally with you on this one, I could barely make it through the first quarter o the second one. It's all 'oh, I'm so fat! And everyone is laughing at m 'cause I'm fat! But it's not my fault!'

So great to see someone feels the same way, I was afraid I might be the only one. Phew. I can understand people (and characters) having a complex about their weight - not in a fantasy series that starts like it's going to be about a character who is in the cavalry though. I didn't sign up for three books of painfully boring whining.

Okay, you're obese and it's not your fault. Why are you [the character] punishing yourself and us [the readers] for a whole long trilogy over it? Get the flip over it. Kiss your hot bod goodbye, that bridge is burned.

Also, need to second someone up-thread on the His Dark Materials trilogy.
Couple of interesting ideas in there, but lots of terrible and contradictory ones as well and all the ideas I liked were in book one, IIRC.

DeleyanLee
07-01-2009, 08:50 PM
I loved the first four or five books of Rice's Vampire Chronicles...then...ARGH! It went downhill fast. She should have thrown in the towel.

I made it through Interview and Lestat and tried to start Queen when I gave up on it. It was too obvious that she was just going to give everything to Lestat and she was just totally in love with him and I really didn't want to watch the orgy anymore.

The series I'm upset about is the Merry Gentry series by Laurel K. Hamilton. Yeah, it had a few rough patches. Yeah, it had lots of sex. Yeah, the sex got a little tedious (see rough patches mentioned above). However, I thought it was the most inovative Fantasy I've read in ages--the idea of exploring the Fantasy elements through sex just appealed to me. She wrote the book where Merry's goal was acheived and I thought she totally crapped out on it but, hey, at least the story was over. I could put it to bed.

Then the next book came out.

Can't read it. My housemate bought it, it's in the house, but I can't read it. The story is over. Stop writing the books already.

MissKris
07-01-2009, 09:30 PM
Wheel of Time (how original, huh?). I just got so sick of nothing really happening and characters not really growing and this abstract, unreachable "bad dude." And I only got through 2 1/2 books.

Marian Perera
07-01-2009, 09:39 PM
I love the Song of Ice and Fire series, but I'm beginning to think that it'll never be completed. At least not in Martin's lifetime. Or even mine. :|

ccv707
07-02-2009, 02:10 AM
I love the Song of Ice and Fire series, but I'm beginning to think that it'll never be completed. At least not in Martin's lifetime. Or even mine. :|

No!!! Don't jinx it! Martin's going to finish it! He's working as hard as he can, and it will happen! I'm going to believe...

Alitriona
07-02-2009, 02:52 AM
I rarely find a book I don't enjoy and in the rare event I do find one, I still want to know what happens next. So I read a lot of series and always finish.

Having said that I read the first in the southern vampire books today and struggled to get through even that much. So it looks like I'll be spending the next few weeks reading books that don't really do it for me but I have to finish regardless.

caromora
07-02-2009, 08:36 AM
Having said that I read the first in the southern vampire books today and struggled to get through even that much. So it looks like I'll be spending the next few weeks reading books that don't really do it for me but I have to finish regardless.

Now that's just crazy! I can see following a series for a while if you started out liking it; after all, you can always hope the story will get back to whatever made you like the books in the first place. But to follow a series where you didn't even like the first book? Does.not.compute. :)

Why not just look up spoilers to see what happens in the subsequent books?

There's so many books out there you could be reading and enjoying instead!

ccv707
07-02-2009, 10:24 AM
Yep. That's why we have Wikipedia! My favorite website!!!........other than AW, that is...

Linda Adams
07-02-2009, 02:43 PM
Usually most series after about Book 7. That appears to be a magic number, when the author starts to run dry and the series changes abruptly and often not for the better:

Lincoln Child/Douglas Preston, in their museum series. They switched to Agent Pendergast as the main character in the last three, and I'm sorry, but he's better as a secondary character.

Sue Grafton. Once she added the family into the story, it lost some of what made the series special.

Clive Cussler, in his Dirk Pitt series. The books just don't have the magic any more. They just feel tired and done before, rather than exciting adventures. It didn't help that he, too, added family to the story.

Laurell K. Hamilton. Already been discussed here. When exactly in a recent book has the main character actually raised a zombie? The past books seem completely forgotten in favor of other things.

Alitriona
07-02-2009, 04:09 PM
Now that's just crazy! I can see following a series for a while if you started out liking it; after all, you can always hope the story will get back to whatever made you like the books in the first place. But to follow a series where you didn't even like the first book? Does.not.compute. :)

Why not just look up spoilers to see what happens in the subsequent books?

There's so many books out there you could be reading and enjoying instead!

Yes that is my problem, the hope it will improve and the fear if I don't finish I'll miss out on something. Crazy I know.

Cyia
07-02-2009, 05:43 PM
I rarely find a book I don't enjoy and in the rare event I do find one, I still want to know what happens next. So I read a lot of series and always finish.

Having said that I read the first in the southern vampire books today and struggled to get through even that much. So it looks like I'll be spending the next few weeks reading books that don't really do it for me but I have to finish regardless.


I can understand this one, actually.

From your avi, I assume you picked up the books because you like the HBO series... they should tell you that the two really aren't alike.

Alitriona
07-02-2009, 07:12 PM
I can understand this one, actually.

From your avi, I assume you picked up the books because you like the HBO series... they should tell you that the two really aren't alike.


Yeah I watched every episode over two days this week, liked it a lot. I've been told they're different but I'm ok with alternate endings. The picture is new, I just thought it was funny.

marie2
07-02-2009, 10:58 PM
I loved the first four or five books of Rice's Vampire Chronicles...then...ARGH! It went downhill fast. She should have thrown in the towel.

THIS.

I loved the first four.

I couldn't get past 'Memnoch the Devil' which broke my heart... I loved those first four books. And I am one of those 'I started reading you so I will FINISH YOU ALL!' I couldn't. It got to a point where the characters had changed so much that they became unrecognizable.

TrickyFiction
07-03-2009, 06:43 AM
I have no series regrets primarily because when I stop liking a series, I stop reading it.

swvaughn
07-03-2009, 07:15 PM
I loved the first four or five books of Rice's Vampire Chronicles...then...ARGH! It went downhill fast. She should have thrown in the towel.


But... Blackwood Farm! Whole new main character! Wasn't even about LeStat.

Until the MC, ol' what's-his-name (memorable, he was), developed a huge and all-consuming crush on LeStat.

Which happened in the first few chapters.

*sigh* Never mind.

I stopped reading the Dark Tower series after the oh-how-many-years wait for Wizard and Glass, upon the reading of which the book left a nice dent in my wall and the rest of them remained in the store, where I could cringe at them from afar while reading Internet spoilers about the absolutely ridiculous direction the series took.

I had such high hopes for Roland, too.

Alan Yee
07-03-2009, 10:05 PM
I'm one of those must-read-entire-series-or-else-I'll-feel-guilty people. Regarding Anne Rice, I've read all the Vampire Chronicles and almost all of her other books. I loved up to Tale of the Body Thief, thought Memnoch the Devil was okay but kind of annoying at times, and thought the rest were okay but not as good as the first four. The thing I hated was the way she ended the series with Blood Canticle. The ending was completely unsatisfying.

Alan Yee
07-03-2009, 10:06 PM
But... Blackwood Farm! Whole new main character! Wasn't even about LeStat.

Until the MC, ol' what's-his-name (memorable, he was), developed a huge and all-consuming crush on LeStat.

Which happened in the first few chapters.

*sigh* Never mind.


His name was Quinn, for what it's worth.

swvaughn
07-03-2009, 10:52 PM
His name was Quinn, for what it's worth.


That's it! Quinn and his twin ghostie thing - the doppelganger, um, Goblin! who was actually a very interesting character. I liked him.

FWIW, I didn't read Blood Canticle because I'd already heard it was unsatisfying - and then I read The Amazon Rant, and decided it definitely wouldn't be worth reading.

trickywoo
07-04-2009, 02:50 PM
I wondered if Martin would show up. I love the books but so much time passes between each, I feel like I have to reread the first ones just to remember what's going on. Too much of a time commitment!

I will read the final WoT ones - just because I've been reading that thing since high school. I've grown up with it ...

I'm not sure if I'll finish D. Gabaldon's Outlander series either. I really enjoyed the first couple, but, again so hefty and so much time in between. It's hard to keep track of the characters.

Stopped after the first volume of T. Goodkind. Just blah.

Lyra Jean
07-04-2009, 06:55 PM
I really didn't mind (please don't hurt me) Twilight.

I was upset by Auel's last book in Earth's Children series.

The series I hated the most and I wish I stopped at the first one was Left Behind. The author didn't even follow his own rules and it totally sucked.

nconner
07-04-2009, 08:21 PM
I'm embarking on writing a series (working on the second book now), so this thread has been super-interesting to me. It's really valuable to get a sense of the reasons why people stop reading.

The two series that come to mind when I think about series that I grew tired of or gave up on are Anita Blake and Stephanie Plum. In both cases, I loved the first few books. But when I got to the LKH novel (I forget which one it was) where Anita gets called away from a friend's wedding to help solve a murder, then has sex for something like 500 pages before we hear another word about the murder, I gave up. With Evanovich, I felt after a few books that she was trying too hard to drag along everything that had worked in the previous books, which left less room for fresh and surprising characters and situations.

Series where I needed a break part way through but will go back to: Jim Butcher's Dresden Files, Rachel Caine's Weather Wardens.

One series I loved that I never, ever got tired of reading was Donald E. Westlake's Dortmunder series. And he kept it going for nearly 40 years.

Nancy Holzner

cathyfreeze
07-04-2009, 10:41 PM
The series I hated the most and I wish I stopped at the first one was Left Behind. The author didn't even follow his own rules and it totally sucked.

Really?! What rules didn't he follow, if you don't mind? I was thinking seriously of checking that out--always loved Late Great Planet Earth and wanted to see how someone would fictionalize that story. He didn't follow Revelations? Or what?

cat

Lyra Jean
07-05-2009, 07:09 AM
Really?! What rules didn't he follow, if you don't mind? I was thinking seriously of checking that out--always loved Late Great Planet Earth and wanted to see how someone would fictionalize that story. He didn't follow Revelations? Or what?

cat

I felt like he used deus ex machina a little to often to save the characters. And a few other instances where a character was most definitely supposed to die and she didn't.

I did like the Left Behind kids. It seemed more realistic than the adult version perhaps or it showed what the world was like with everything hitting it.

cathyfreeze
07-05-2009, 07:46 AM
I felt like he used deus ex machina a little to often to save the characters.

Heeee! Well, the whole revelations thing is about deus machina-ing, so i can hardly blame 'em for that.

Nivarion
07-05-2009, 10:01 AM
while i didn't regret the whole WOT i did regret crossroads of twilight. The last fifty pages were really good. You just had to slog through the 480+ pages before it.

I mean really did we ALL need to the same event from the POV of ALL the characters. It was interseting the first couple, but after about four or five "what the hell is that?"s it got really really REALLY old.



I am surprised that there are so many votes for the shannara series. I love his stuff. Sword wasn't too great but elfstones and beyond were.

megan_d
07-05-2009, 10:50 AM
Ha, when you said crossroads of twilight I only read twilight, and then I was trying to figure out how someone could find the conflictless conversation that wraps that series up to be good.

dgiharris
07-07-2009, 01:17 AM
Terry Goodkind, after the first book.
Dune after God-Emperor.
A Song of Ice and Fire, I read a few chapters of book 1 and stopped.
Xanth
Incarnations of Immortality (should have stopped with Evil)

I can agree with this list. The first few Xanth novels were fun though, then it just started to be more of the same.

Terry Goodkind for me went downhill after book 3. Past book 5 is absolutely criminally horribly dreadfully dreadful


I love the Song of Ice and Fire series, but I'm beginning to think that it'll never be completed. At least not in Martin's lifetime. Or even mine. :|


No!!! Don't jinx it! Martin's going to finish it! He's working as hard as he can, and it will happen! I'm going to believe...

Everytime I'd go to the book store, I'd see his book on the shelf. Finally, last Octoberish, I decided to read it. First book knocked me on my ass and I went through the entire series over the next few months.

And then, the next book is supposed to come out in 2008, which pushes to mid 2008 to end of 2008 now we're looking at "It'll come when it comes."

I'm done with GRRM. I don't think I could handle reading the next book then waiting to 2020 for the next one.

Mel...

emilycross
07-15-2009, 01:39 AM
In regards to series i finished - twilight. Liked the first book, and read the other books in the hope of a great or decent ending but . . . yeah . . . no comment on the last book.

anyway, I agree with what others have said about Auel's books. I read the first 3? books i think? All i know is i picked up book five or something, flicked through it and was able to pick up the entire plot and the plot of the previous book. I loved the first book, and then it was like Deja Vu for the rest of the series.

I loved the Pellinor series, the ending could have been stronger but i enjoyed it.