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Bravo
06-16-2009, 05:53 AM
and perhaps keeps on making the same mistakes. it doesn't matter where this character is from, whether it's from a greek tragedy or a modern comic book, just something that is somewhat recognizable.

i'm drawing a blank.

thank you

poetinahat
06-16-2009, 05:56 AM
Dorian Gray.

(Or Count Dracula - you know, the mirror thing: you see, - ah, forget it...)

Bravo
06-16-2009, 05:58 AM
and no one better say my name here...

Bravo
06-16-2009, 05:59 AM
who the heck is dorian gray?

Fokker Aeroplanbau
06-16-2009, 06:02 AM
The Question... Was the predecessor to Rorshach. You could use Rorshach as well, but The Question was more Objectivist thus a better tie-in then the casually psychotic Rorshach.

Basically every character from The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. Roark, Rearden, Ellis Wyatt, Francisco d'Anconia and most of all: John Galt.

If you're looking for a character like you described - you must have to use something from Ayn Rand. :)

It's fact.

poetinahat
06-16-2009, 06:02 AM
who the heck is dorian gray?
Never mind. Maybe you'd better just stick with Wile E. Coyote.

eta: :)

Bravo
06-16-2009, 06:21 AM
that's perfect!!

thank you

p.s. i love you.

Tanya Egan Gibson
06-16-2009, 06:23 AM
What, exactly, do you mean by "fails to self-reflect"? Like the emperor in The Emperor's New Clothes?

Bravo
06-16-2009, 06:29 AM
someone who keeps making the same mistakes, and continuously suffers because of that.

i just decided, 3.56 seconds ago, that wile coyote isn't really perfect for this, since i want the suffering to be explicitly due to the person's lack of self-awareness, not a formidable enemy.

scarletpeaches
06-16-2009, 06:30 AM
who the heck is dorian gray?

Please tell me you're kidding.

poetinahat
06-16-2009, 06:35 AM
How about Ebenezer Scrooge, before the ghosts?

Chase
06-16-2009, 06:43 AM
You're saying the road runner is a formidable enemy? Come on! Wile E. is his own worst enemy, because he fails to "self-reflect." Quick, send for a mirror from Acme One-Way Mirror Company.

Or check out Oscar Wilde's novel, The Picture of Dorian Grey. Dorian is Wile E Coyote's alter ego.

Bravo
06-16-2009, 06:45 AM
no, i know that wile e. is own worst enemy, i just don't want an antagonist that keeps getting away like that. it'll defeat the purpose of what i'm trying to do.

maybe i'll use this dorien gray character even though i know nothing about him/her.

i'll just wiki wing it.

thank you

mscelina
06-16-2009, 06:50 AM
Scarlett O'Hara. "I'll think about that tomorrow" doesn't really count as self-reflection.

backslashbaby
06-16-2009, 07:02 AM
Mathieu Delarue from Sartre's The Age of Reason. Or any of the existentialist antiheroes, really. Not so famous, maybe? I dont know if you can use it, but that's their schtick, anyway ;)

brokenfingers
06-16-2009, 07:05 AM
Charlie Brown. With Lucy and the football.

Smiling Ted
06-16-2009, 07:06 AM
Zap Brannigan.

Or Emma Bovary.

Stew21
06-16-2009, 07:09 AM
Self-destructs because he doesn't self-reflect

Sebastian from Brideshead Revisited.

Any character from Vile Bodies by Evelyn Waugh

F. Scott Fitzgerald - from his real life

frimble3
06-16-2009, 07:18 AM
Agreeing with mscelina, Scarlett was my immediate thought when I read the title of the thread. No forethought, about men, family, or public perception. She don't know what she got 'til it's gone.

Stew21
06-16-2009, 07:20 AM
What about Ophelia? or Daisy Buchanan?

Cyia
06-16-2009, 07:37 AM
who the heck is dorian gray?

Oh. :eek:
My. :e2bummed:
God. :e2cry:

:e2thud:

Edit: Just in case you're serious:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray

MacAllister
06-16-2009, 08:05 AM
Ahab.

"I would strike the sun if it insulted me."

Stew21
06-16-2009, 08:12 AM
Dang, Mac. That one seemed so obvious after you said it, but I completely missed it.

Bravo
06-16-2009, 08:13 AM
i could only get through the first paragraph and a half of that book.

but i have a feeling that's a great choice.

thanks, mac.

blacbird
06-16-2009, 08:52 AM
Alex, in A Clockwork Orange, maybe. But Mac nailed it with the best one I can think of.

caw

Chase
06-16-2009, 08:54 PM
yep definitely go with famous literary characters in cartoons and comic strips well maybe just the comics making it out of words in print and to the telly

jenelcc
06-17-2009, 08:33 AM
Jane Austen's Emma?

lm728
06-20-2009, 07:25 PM
Holden Caulfield in The Catcher In the Rye, I guess.
Scarlett O'Hara for sure, in the refusal to believe that Ashley may not have liked her because she was so conceited.
Dorian Gray is another one, as some have already mentioned.
That main character in Sylvia Plath's book, The Bell Jar--Esther Greenwood. And Sylvia Plath in real-life too, if you count being schizophrenic unable to self-reflect and face reality.

William Haskins
06-20-2009, 07:32 PM
candide.

KTC
06-20-2009, 08:03 PM
who the heck is dorian gray?

Ack! This makes me very sad for you.

KTC
06-20-2009, 08:06 PM
maybe i'll use this dorien gray character even though i know nothing about him/her.



I bet when you look Dorian up you will find that you actually 'know' of him...just not the actual name. His story is known by everyone, I would think.

KTC
06-20-2009, 08:08 PM
I like Ahab and Candide. I really like Esther too...but I think most people don't remember the name of The Bell Jar's main character when they think of her.

RunawayScribe
06-20-2009, 09:12 PM
Catherine Earnshaw/Linton, from Emily Bronte's Wuthering Heights. To assume the world revolves unquestionably around you is not self-reflection. It's vain stupidity. I swear that girl never applied a single brain cell.

rugcat
06-21-2009, 12:23 AM
Peter Pan, the ultimate in child-like self absorption. Of course, he was a child --and everything seemed to work out for him, anyway.

lm728
06-21-2009, 12:39 AM
I really like Esther too...but I think most people don't remember the name of The Bell Jar's main character when they think of her.

Wasn't it semi-autobiographical? I thought of Sylvia right away as the MC's name.

KTC
06-21-2009, 12:49 AM
Wasn't it semi-autobiographical? I thought of Sylvia right away as the MC's name.

So did I. I don't really know if it was or not, but I projected her into the character completely.

Repartee
06-21-2009, 01:18 AM
I bet when you look Dorian up you will find that you actually 'know' of him...just not the actual name. His story is known by everyone, I would think.

I loved that book. I read it when I was 12, I've been meaning to pick it up and read it again. Thank you for reminding me.

I'm pretty sure The Bell Jar was semi-autobiographical.