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quixote100104
06-07-2009, 10:42 AM
Greetings :-),

A few questions about the US Marine Corps, as part of some character research.

1) What things could lead to entering service at a higher than normal enlisted rank (such as high standing in training, pre-service education, etc.) and what would be the maximum rank someone could achieve in this manner?

2) How long would the typical process be for approval of a lateral move to “MOS 0211 - Counterintelligence/HUMINT Specialist” and what sort of units might someone with that MOS be assigned to?

Thanks :-),

Sargentodiaz
06-07-2009, 08:05 PM
Go to the Marine Corps website (part of US Navy) and do a search. Better yet - go ask a Marine recruiter. They don't bite - just growl a lot. :)

Cranky
06-07-2009, 08:38 PM
Ditto lvcabbie. :D

The hubby says (and this was true of the Navy, too) that having some college credit (like an associate's degree), and being an Eagle Scout (he's one :D) can get you enlisted at least an E2. Also, I believe you can get at least one rank if you recruit enough people to enlist along with you.

But yeah, for more specific info, talk to a recruiter. On the MOS front, most of the folks with that MOS are going to be assigned to an Expeditionary Warfare unit or a command unit. FWIW.

Gary
06-07-2009, 09:36 PM
Things like that change periodically, so what is true a few years ago might not be true today, or next week.

At times, being a member of the Civil Air Patrol and attending one summer camp, would get you E2 upon elistment in the Air Force.

During those years when it was difficult to recruit, they offered E3 if you had some college credits and enlisted for six years, but I have no idea what they offer today.

A friend's daughter was in Marine Corps High School ROTC and rose to Cadet Commander. She was given E3 when she graduated and went to summer camp. After three months on active duty, she was given a college ROTC scholarship and commissioned when she graduated college. Despite all her experience, she was only given 2LT.

You just never know what bonus they come up with to encourage enlistment, but in my career, I never saw anyone enlist higher than E3, and while pay from day one was for an E3, the stripes were awarded at completion of Basic Military Training.

Other's experience may vary.

Cranky
06-07-2009, 09:39 PM
FWIW, I've never seen anyone enlist higher than E3, either, though I have known folks who were given E4 once they had completed Nuke school, though that was, again, Navy.

But Gary's right. These things change.

Rowan
06-11-2009, 03:16 AM
Greetings :-),

A few questions about the US Marine Corps, as part of some character research.

1) What things could lead to entering service at a higher than normal enlisted rank (such as high standing in training, pre-service education, etc.) and what would be the maximum rank someone could achieve in this manner?

2) How long would the typical process be for approval of a lateral move to “MOS 0211 - Counterintelligence/HUMINT Specialist” and what sort of units might someone with that MOS be assigned to?

Thanks :-),

I was in the Corps - it was a while ago but let me think...
1) If you enlist for a 6 year term (versus standard 4) you can automatically earn a PFC upon successful completion of Boot Camp. You can also be awarded a "promotion" for graduating at the top of your class; in my basic training class two recruits were promoted to PFC. If one was a 6 year enlistee they could conceivably be promoted to LCpl via this route.

2) Making a lateral move to another MOS isn't very common (from what I know/remember)- unless you are going from standard infantry 0311 to Force Recon or Recon, etc. You basically take a bunch of aptitude tests that determine what MOS's you qualify for, etc. You need a pretty high score for Counter-Intelligence/Intelligence type MOS's... Most units have specialized billets - ie., I was a Construction Drafter and was the only one assigned to my unit but I'm not sure about SIGINT/HUMINT. I agree w/ the above posters that a USMC recruiter is your best bet for a current answer on this one!

Good Luck!

RJK
06-11-2009, 05:14 PM
There were programs several years ago, I think they were called the Advanced enlisted program. You could apply your civilian occupation experience and education toward 'points'. Some people qualified as high as E-5. In the Navy, these people could actually qualify for Chief Petty Officer in their first enlistment.

The government and military work in strange ways. If they need an asset, they change the rules in order to get that asset. You could have your character be experienced in intelligence and the Marines would find a way to recruit him. Question is, why doesn't he go to NSA?

Noah Body
06-16-2009, 12:38 AM
2) How long would the typical process be for approval of a lateral move to “MOS 0211 - Counterintelligence/HUMINT Specialist” and what sort of units might someone with that MOS be assigned to?

LOL...golly, wherever did you get that? ;)