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rhymegirl
05-27-2009, 09:10 PM
I never know how much I should give as a tip when I go to the hairdresser.

15 %? More? Less?

Dependent on how much you like your new do?

What do you people think?

Wayne K
05-27-2009, 09:34 PM
If you intend to go back I would suggest the standard 15%.

rhymegirl
05-27-2009, 10:08 PM
If you intend to go back I would suggest the standard 15%.

That's what I was figuring on.

But I've had people tell me varying amounts.

DeleyanLee
05-27-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm accustomed to giving a 20% tip, so that's what I go with. If I really like the 'do or the stylist, I'll go as high as 30%.

But, then, I do that for any service provider who receives tips. I tend to get great service on return trips too. ;)

wannawrite
05-27-2009, 10:27 PM
I hate figuring tips. I just throw money at people until I don't feel cheap, anymore. Usually means that I overtip.

BUT....

Tipping is NOT mandatory. I have been a bartender, waitress, cocktail waitress, chauffer, etc... (the list goes on. I have had a lot of entry-level jobs) and I am usually a pretty decent tipper. But, if the service is really, really bad...for no obvious reason and with no apologies from the service person...then I don't tip. Period. Why should I pay someone to be rude to me? A tip is a form of 'thank-you' for a job well done. Why encourage oafishness?

NeuroFizz
05-27-2009, 10:40 PM
I agree on the purpose of a tip, but it seems many individuals working in service industries have a sense of entitlement about it, regardless of the quality of service performed. It's become an expectation with many younger people in particular, and I have seen rudeness when a tip wasn't considered large enough.

As for hairdressers, I just had a haircut today (at one of the low cost walk-in places). The haircut cost was $8.99 and I gave $12.00. That's a bit high on the percentage, but the original cost is so low I give a little more than the 15-20% would dictate.

rhymegirl
05-27-2009, 10:48 PM
I'm accustomed to giving a 20% tip, so that's what I go with. If I really like the 'do or the stylist, I'll go as high as 30%.

But, then, I do that for any service provider who receives tips. I tend to get great service on return trips too. ;)

What I've having done will cost more than $60, so that's hard to part with as it is. I want to give a reasonable tip, but not break the bank.

alleycat
05-27-2009, 11:29 PM
I give my barber $20 ($15 + a $5 tip).

That's probably not much help to you though. I'd say if what you're having done is $60, then a $10 tip is enough. For some jobs, tips are the way people makes most of their income, for others the tip is just icing on the cake. Hair stylists are generally not working at minimum wage, even if they received no tips.

Ol' Fashioned Girl
05-27-2009, 11:34 PM
I got a $75 perm/cut about three weeks ago and tipped $15... I'm like you, though. I never know if that's the right amount. If this guy will stay in the business, not die or move or disappear or retire like all the rest have, I'll tip him more!

Of course, it occurs to me they might not leave the business, die, move, disappear, or retire if I'd tip 'em more...

quickWit
05-27-2009, 11:38 PM
I'm bald, so I go to a shoe shine instead. If my pate is shining like a mirror when he's done I'll throw him an extry buck or two.

:)

rhymegirl
05-27-2009, 11:40 PM
I'm bald, so I go to a shoe shine instead. If my pate is shining like a mirror when he's done I'll throw him an extry buck or two.

:)

There's an idea. I could try the bald look like quicky.

brokenfingers
05-27-2009, 11:59 PM
I usually tip at least 20%. Higher if the service is good.

Also, I used to be a bartender, so I tip them especially well.

WendyNYC
05-28-2009, 12:00 AM
I tip 20% or higher.

Button
05-28-2009, 12:06 AM
I always consider several things: time spent with me, how long I had to wait to get what I wanted, if I was happy with what I got, if the person was friendly (this is always hard to judge, as I'm a very quiet person, so friendly doesn't always mean bubbly and talking, I like a peaceful, mutual quiet moment) and the cost.

In this example, if the hairdresser takes 3 hours to do a simple one color dye and cut (which has happened to me) so I gave absolutely no tip. There's no reason haircuts and colors should take longer than an hour.

In another example, a woman spend a simple half hour doing a trim up and I got my eyebrows done. She was able to get in another customer within that hour, and mine was rather inexpensive, about $30, but I still tipped $10. She was quick, she did it right, I was happy with the result.

Depending on if they were earning minimum wage or less, I might tip more than 15%, if they have done a great job.

I'll still tip if I can tell the person doing my services has had a bad day, made a small mistake, etc. Once I had super slow service at a restaurant, because the waitress had a super big party to tend to and they were always making demands of her. I ordered as simply as I could and left a big tip just because.

I think tipping is always a personal thing, and in the moment, you know how much you should tip.

scarletpeaches
05-28-2009, 12:15 AM
I despise tips. Don't complain about your wages being low and needing my money to make the rent; complain to your boss and ask for a raise.

I tried giving my last hairdresser a tip though, completely voluntary as I was ecstatic with how she made me look and she wouldn't hear of it. Absolutely refused to take anything more than the price of my highlights.

I drop off boxes of chocs occasionally though as who can refuse choccies, right?

sassandgroove
05-28-2009, 12:19 AM
I cut my own hair.



wut?



No I give a couple extra bucks, but I go to those chain places like Super Cuts and just get a trim. So you know....

But only if the person was nice and did what I asked. The one who made me wanna cry not so much.

sassandgroove
05-28-2009, 12:20 AM
I despise tips. Don't complain about your wages being low and needing my money to make the rent; complain to your boss and ask for a raise.
The problem with that is at least in the US for jobs like waiting tables, the boss just pays enough to cover taxes and tips are the wages.

scarletpeaches
05-28-2009, 12:21 AM
Hmm. Over here we have a minimum wage which, while not a lot, is enough to live on (for most people).

It's just the sense of entitlement that gets to me. If wages aren't enough, why not just bump up the prices in the salon or restaurant to cover them? Seems more honest to me.

Tipping smacks of emotional blackmail.

Seaclusion
05-28-2009, 12:23 AM
Having grown up in the restaurant business, managed several restaurants and waited tables here are my rules for tipping. (They may or may not apply to hairstylists)

1. Always overtip the first time you go to an establishment if you plan to return. You will forever be remembered as the 'good tipper' no matter how you tip later on.

2. I rarely tip a percentage fo the check. I instead tip by the head count of the table, and a combination of what the meal is, how much service was required during the meal and how well the service was performed.

3. If not tipping or reducing the tip for reasons of service, I always tell the server why there was no tip. I sometimes also tell the manager.


4. Wouldn't it be nice if restaurant owners paid their staff what they were worth instead of a token amount and having them beg their customers for their salary.


Richard

aadams73
05-28-2009, 12:24 AM
I'm a 20% + tipper as well. Except at my hair salon which is non-gratuity. So I'm of absolutely no help to you.

quickWit
05-28-2009, 12:25 AM
Tipping smacks of emotional blackmail.

*smacks SP with emotional black man*

Geez, are you gonna stop crying, or what?

Wayne K
05-28-2009, 12:54 AM
Hmm. Over here we have a minimum wage which, while not a lot, is enough to live on (for most people).

It's just the sense of entitlement that gets to me. If wages aren't enough, why not just bump up the prices in the salon or restaurant to cover them? Seems more honest to me.

Tipping smacks of emotional blackmail.
Yay to you.

alleycat
05-28-2009, 12:58 AM
Has this thread been derailed yet?

If not, I can always post a joke about cow tipping.

JoNightshade
05-28-2009, 01:04 AM
I only get my hair cut once in a blue moon and it usually runs me $40-60. I have a friend who is a stylist and my understanding is that with those fancy salons, the stylist pays "rent" for their chair and then sets their own prices. When this is the case, I do not tip. I am assuming the stylist is smart enough to have priced her services to make a living. (And in fact my friend made quite a lot - she put her husband through college.)

Now, if it's just one of those cheap supercuts places, they're just getting a wage and it's probably not much, so if they do a good job I'd tip. But I would rather just let my hair grow out than go to one of those places, because most of the time they make me cry!

rhymegirl
05-28-2009, 01:17 AM
I only get my hair cut once in a blue moon and it usually runs me $40-60. I have a friend who is a stylist and my understanding is that with those fancy salons, the stylist pays "rent" for their chair and then sets their own prices. When this is the case, I do not tip. I am assuming the stylist is smart enough to have priced her services to make a living. (And in fact my friend made quite a lot - she put her husband through college.)

Now, if it's just one of those cheap supercuts places, they're just getting a wage and it's probably not much, so if they do a good job I'd tip. But I would rather just let my hair grow out than go to one of those places, because most of the time they make me cry!

It's a salon. You're probably right about the stylist renting a chair and setting her own prices. I talked to her on her cell phone and she had her appointment book at home with her.

My favorite salon closed last year. The economy. Not enough business. Now I have to start over again somewhere else. This stylist worked at my former place.

Jersey Chick
05-28-2009, 01:21 AM
20% or else I'm afraid that the next time I go back, I'll regret it. ;)

JoNightshade
05-28-2009, 01:27 AM
If you can find a stylist that you go to regularly, as a loyal customer, I honestly don't think they will care if/how much you tip. They depend more on regular, repeat business and you recommending her to your friends. My friend actually did $20 haircuts for all the guys at her husband's work - and got a lot of regular business from their wives. I never heard her complaining about tips at all, but she was always thrilled if someone came in and said "so and so recommended you."

Jersey Chick
05-28-2009, 01:40 AM
I go to the same salon, but not always the same stylist and I figure they talk. :D

rhymegirl
05-29-2009, 01:25 AM
I'd say if what you're having done is $60, then a $10 tip is enough. For some jobs, tips are the way people makes most of their income, for others the tip is just icing on the cake. Hair stylists are generally not working at minimum wage, even if they received no tips.

I took your advice, alleycat.

dclary
05-29-2009, 02:16 AM
I got to Sport Clips, where in addition to the cut, you get a minty shampoo, scalp massage, and shoulder and neck massage.

The whole treatment is like... $24. If I get the girl who treats my head like it's the greatest thing she's ever touched, I give $6. If I get the girl who treats my shampooing like it's just a shampooing, she gets $1.

It's all about the service. Service professionals are wise to remember that.

rhymegirl
05-29-2009, 03:20 AM
I got to Sport Clips, where in addition to the cut, you get a minty shampoo, scalp massage, and shoulder and neck massage.

The whole treatment is like... $24. If I get the girl who treats my head like it's the greatest thing she's ever touched, I give $6. If I get the girl who treats my shampooing like it's just a shampooing, she gets $1.

It's all about the service. Service professionals are wise to remember that.

Yes, one time I went to this nice salon where you had one person shampooing your hair and another cutting it.

The guy who was shampooing my hair really got into it. What a scalp massage! It was an extremely sensual experience.

dclary
05-29-2009, 03:47 AM
EXACTLY!

Silver King
05-29-2009, 07:25 AM
...The guy who was shampooing my hair really got into it. What a scalp massage! It was an extremely sensual experience.
That's happened to me also. And it's kind of scary in a way, when you can receive that much pleasure form a stranger and still not feel guilty.

My rule for tipping is that I have no rules and usually leave more than expected, even for bad service. I can't help it, and I also offer tips when none are expected. A guy last week at a gas station replaced the valve stem in my tire and charged me ten dollars. I gave him an extra five. He looked at the tip for a moment, then snatched it up without a word.

But I know it made him happy.

Death Wizard
05-29-2009, 07:31 AM
I've always been a big tipper, whether for hair, food, whatever. Whenever I revisit a restaurant, all the servers fight over me. You have to treat me pretty bad to get less than 20 percent. I tip $8 for a $12 haircut. I've probably overtipped thousands of dollars over the course of my lifetime. It's just the way I am.

Wayne K
05-29-2009, 07:44 AM
There was a guy named Zachary in the East Village in NYC when I lived there who was world famous for some of the people he had as clients. He like me, and didn't charge me a dime--I used to give him twenty bucks. He had champangne and wine and weed an a blow for your nose at 9 in the morning. I didn't leave for days sometimes.

Excuse my nostalgia, but we're talking about hair here.

Cassiopeia
05-29-2009, 08:12 AM
Considering that I get my hair colored every two weeks, or I used to, now I do it myself ...(my hair grows an inch a month and I've been solid white for about 15 years now) and that a cut and all that can cost me 50-90 a visit, I don't always tip. But never more than 5 bucks. And she knows why. But then I've been seeing this hairdresser who is now my dear friend for 9 years.

backslashbaby
05-29-2009, 10:17 AM
20% and at least 5% for the shampoo person. In the US, I never tip less than 20%.

In the Philly airport, I only had foreign bills [I apologized!], and the idiot stared down at his hand like he was holding poo. I told him how much it really was and he argued with me and told me to give him more! It ended up with us cussing each other out as he followed me around, with security laughing. Ah, Philly ;)

Lyra Jean
05-29-2009, 10:44 AM
20% and at least 5% for the shampoo person. In the US, I never tip less than 20%.

In the Philly airport, I only had foreign bills [I apologized!], and the idiot stared down at his hand like he was holding poo. I told him how much it really was and he argued with me and told me to give him more! It ended up with us cussing each other out as he followed me around, with security laughing. Ah, Philly ;)

Never had it happen but if a server argued with me about how much I tip I would just take the tip back with a "fine don't have anything."

I have a tip calculator in my phone that I use at restaurants. It does an automatic 15% and I just round up to the nearest dollar. At hair salons I usually tip $5. They have to be really awesome for me to tip more. But then I go to first choice haircutters. I'm going to try and find a salon after I move in August.

aadams73
05-29-2009, 01:17 PM
The guy who was shampooing my hair really got into it. What a scalp massage! It was an extremely sensual experience.

See, now that gives me the willies to have a stranger touch me like that. I want to run out of there screaming.

fringle
05-29-2009, 02:51 PM
I tip 20% plus when I'm in the US. 15% plus in Europe.

The salon by my parents' house is a no-tip zone. I hate it bc I feel so guilty, like I should go out and buy them a gift or something. So then I just end up buying tons of products fro bc I know they get a commission on product sales. But, of course, I don't travel with liquid products anymore, so they get left behind.