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scarletpeaches
05-21-2009, 03:39 AM
Oh look, another 'inspired by an MSN conversation with tt42' thread!

What have you recently written that made you look over it and think, "Yeah, that's...that's really good. I can write?"

The reason I ask is tt42 just said, "I don't care if it sounds egotistical, I'm going to say it: I'm inordinately proud of..." and she went on to describe a particular scene in one of her novels. It's up to her if she elaborates here.

Do you ever get that? A feeling of being in the zone and satisfaction in your own work? Not in a boastful way, just a realisation that you might not be completely rubbish at this game after all?

I'm not referring to outside validation at all. Just within yourself.

No need to post excerpts. Just interested in what other folks have felt while writing and vague ideas of the passages you feel you wrote well. :)

thethinker42
05-21-2009, 03:46 AM
I shall start, since my own ego-stroking was what started the thread...

There's a scene in With The Band that still makes my breath catch every time and makes me think, "Whut? I wrote that??"

Basically, the two main characters are backstage before a concert (they're musicians). For various reasons, they really can't be together, but they can't resist each other. With a few minutes to go before they go onstage, he kisses her. At one point, he breaks the kiss and says "We shouldn't be doing this", but cuts himself off by kissing her again. I just like it because of the "I know we shouldn't, but I can't not do this".

There. I've stroked my own ego. In all seriousness, this thread is a great idea: I think it's good for people to stop and let themselves be proud of stuff like this...it's so easy to get down on yourself for writing something that isn't spectacular, but everyone has their "Wow, I wrote that?!" bits.

C'mon everyone...out with it.

Matera the Mad
05-21-2009, 06:05 AM
I have one chapter that has never cried for much editing. It's slow, nothing exciting happens, just a little character development. The angsty young MC, feeling especially out of place and inadequate after an unintentional remark embarrasses him, spends some much-needed quality time with an older character in a quiet setting. I think it leaves a good warmfuzzy, best summed up in one sentence near the end, in the MC's thoughts: "Nothing was out of place, merely unfinished--a bowl, open at the future end."

KTC
05-21-2009, 06:09 AM
I had a detention last weekend. When it was over, I wrote a fantastic essay on my experiences during the detention...and the people I shared them with. When I was finished, I ACTUALLY gave myself a 'way to go' punch in the shoulder...I was THAT pleased with the outcome!

NeuroFizz
05-21-2009, 07:52 AM
Outside of fiction and poetry, I had three papers published in scientific journals this past academic year. Good science, top-notch journals, good scientific writing (which is way different than our kind of writing). This horn blows a different kind of creativity than the fiction horn, but its tone is just as pure and its contribution to the body of information easier to measure. I'm always proud of my scientific publications because they reflect original, careful, and hard work. Best, there is no doubt they break new ground, even if the clods are small ones in the overall landmass of science.

I've had some success in the fiction arena as well, but I've been blowing that horn elswhere around here. In my newest novel, Imola, I had a particular challenge in dealing with external and internal dialogue, and I think I came up with a cool solution. I won't be specific because it might be a bit of a spoiler. The ARCs should be heading to reviewers right about now, so I'll probably get feedback on how it works soon. I'm naked on the corner once again...

SPMiller
05-21-2009, 01:11 PM
All this horn blowing has caught my attention.

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 01:57 PM
I blow my own horn and I'm sure people think it's ego. That's okay because I'd rather that than stay silent about something I believe. I believe I wasn't just meant to write--I think I'm damn good at it.

People may disagree, but that's okay too. I believe that to be a matter of taste rather than anything else.

I don't want to stay in the shallow water, I want someone to challenge me. If my boasting bothers you go to SYW and beat the shit out of my writing.

I'm bored with good, there are enough good writers in the world. I want to be great if that's possible. Sitting around protecting myself with phoney crap like "I don't think it's any good." or "It needs work." is self serving.

"This is my best effort, I think it's great." that'll get you some critique--that'll make me a better writer.

Saskatoonistan
05-21-2009, 03:01 PM
I play guitar.... badly.

scarletpeaches
05-21-2009, 03:10 PM
I blow my own horn and I'm sure people think it's ego. That's okay because I'd rather that than stay silent about something I believe. I believe I wasn't just meant to write--I think I'm damn good at it.

People may disagree, but that's okay too. I believe that to be a matter of taste rather than anything else.

I don't want to stay in the shallow water, I want someone to challenge me. If my boasting bothers you go to SYW and beat the shit out of my writing.

I'm bored with good, there are enough good writers in the world. I want to be great if that's possible. Sitting around protecting myself with phoney crap like "I don't think it's any good." or "It needs work." is self serving.

"This is my best effort, I think it's great." that'll get you some critique--that'll make me a better writer.

We need more people like this. This is what this thread is all about.

False modesty gets right on my nipple ends. If I write something I'm not happy with, I'll run it past someone to get their take on it and nine times out of ten they'll confirm what I already suspected.

But I have beta readers like tt42 and Adzmodeus who say, "I like this - now bloody believe it!" and then hit me with, "Hmm...this needs work."

Once I've woken up properly I'll think of something to contribute to the thread I started! :D

Ken
05-21-2009, 03:52 PM
... I sometimes get this surge of confidence you describe at the end of my works when it no longer matters that I have gotten into the zone, because there is in fact little more to be written. I kid you not :-(

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 04:51 PM
I put what I thought was my best work in SYW memoir and people loved it--then some critique came in and I settled in on a lower step for a second.

"Bit of an info dump here..." and "Past tense-present tense problem there..."

Nonetheless the critiquers liked it, so I went back to work. That's how this thing works.

My wife writes some of the most incredible poetry I've ever read--she subbed to The Guardisn twice and won contests both times--But she wont share her stuff--she's terrified of critique. It's fucking annoying to me that the world would suffer because people are trained to crap on themselves.

That's where it lay for me. I was put down long enough that I started believeing it.

Screw all of you, until someone says "Wayne you're really not that good..." I'll think stick with liking my work. Liking it makes it better. (a little douchey at times) but better.

Like the big unattractive woman who puts on her best dress andf heels and goes out on the dancefloor "Fuck you, I'm beautiful, ansd I don't care who thinks otherwise."

She's the sexiest woman in the place.

So I guess it's sexing up my writing.


I really need to get busy on that erotica memoir.

SPMiller
05-21-2009, 04:54 PM
I prefer to allow other people to blow my horn for me.

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 05:41 PM
But if you have no confidence in yourself how do you get them to do it?

CaroGirl
05-21-2009, 05:43 PM
My short story made the short list of a local contest. The last time I made the short list (I place 2nd two years ago), I was asked to write a blurb on what the story was about. When I thought about the blurb for this story, I realized I had a pretty deep theme embedded in it. I thought, cool! I did that.

Toot toot.

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 05:43 PM
My wife used to hide her poetry from me in what looked like gay porn files.

That's how she found out I'm bi-sexual.

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 05:44 PM
If that was a true story it wiould be great.

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 05:45 PM
"Other than all that, how did you like my poetry?"

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 05:46 PM
"The cabana boy loved it dear."

CaroGirl
05-21-2009, 05:47 PM
I like my work and I'm always proud of it, even if others don't happen to love it.

Wayne K
05-21-2009, 05:49 PM
Tune in next week for answers to questions I can't post in this forum.

aadams73
05-21-2009, 10:07 PM
It's occurred to me recently that I'm best when I'm writing comedy. That's when my writing REALLY pops. And when I keep it sleek and not too wordy...yeah, it's good. I can do the serious stuff, but comedy is where I shine.

Shadow_Ferret
05-21-2009, 10:13 PM
It's weird, but the stuff I like everyone else hates and the stuff I hate everyone loves. Obviously I have no clue what is good or bad. I should just retire.

icerose
05-21-2009, 11:03 PM
My first full length horror script. I wrote it last year, I'm still modifying it but by the essence of it, I had one of those moments of feeling "there" with my writing. Like I'd crossed some invisible threshold in my writing. It was such a fun and neat feeling.

Moonfish
05-21-2009, 11:17 PM
Well, I have this thing where my last YA was just out and everyone seems to love it. Which freaks me out (yes, neurotic writers and all that...). The language gets special mention by almost every reader, they think it's so magical, amazing, how did you do that etc. Which has me end up thinking well, how did I do that and how will I ever be able to do it again???

Then today, as I was getting ready for today's work (a new YA fantasy set in the same world but not a sequel) I took out the recently published book to read through some places to see if I can find that tone, that language again. And I found myself thinking "What, this? This is nothing special! This comes easy to me. I can easily do it again, and better!"
And I liked feeling that way.

eveningstar
05-21-2009, 11:33 PM
I'm working on some notes for something that I'm trying to develop into an actual outline and I wrote a bit of stuff to get a feel for it. When I re-read a certain line I thought "oh, that's just lovely." I can definitely come up with a beautiful sentence or turn of phrase, even if I'm not sure where it belongs yet.

And this probably counts as outside validation, but I'm still kind of giddy that I won Jenny Rappaport's 140-character microfiction contest a few weeks ago.

thethinker42
05-22-2009, 01:53 AM
My first full length horror script. I wrote it last year, I'm still modifying it but by the essence of it, I had one of those moments of feeling "there" with my writing. Like I'd crossed some invisible threshold in my writing. It was such a fun and neat feeling.

That's the coolest feeling EVER.

Swordswoman
05-22-2009, 02:27 AM
"Nothing was out of place, merely unfinished--a bowl, open at the future end."

If I'd written that, then yes, I'd be pretty in awe of myself. It's fabulous.

In a different league, I suppose I've had some of my own. Those moments when you read the thing back, and find you're sitting there with your hand over your mouth and your heart banging and goosebumps up your arms. When you want to rush out onto the street and grab some innocent stranger and see 'Look what I just did!'

But there aren't enough of them. It's not false modesty, honest it's not - because the more I get those good moments the more I realize the rest of it isn't up to snuff. I want it all to be like that, so I can crawl happily up the arse of my own genius and be safe... :D

KTC
05-22-2009, 02:34 AM
Note to self: Remember not to waste B.C. material in the roundtable forum.

backslashbaby
05-22-2009, 05:50 AM
Have you ever had something you did where strangers inevitably come up and compliment you on it? All your life, teachers and peers?

Yeah, me neither except for yoga, actually. But when I got back into it, Dad asked how I liked it and I said "Oh, you know I'm always good at it, so yeah it was easy and I love it." To which he said "If you do say so yourself!"

:D But it's not via my hard work that I'm good at it. I'm literally born bendier. So, meh. Not humble, but I'll take no credit for any control over it, either.

Writing? A certain talent, but hard work will have to make it very good. So if I'm pleased, it means I've worked hard on something.

I do have a subplot that is teh awesome. That was a flash of inspiration. I didn't work for it. I do hope that I can do it justice with the words, though!

Tika
05-22-2009, 08:49 AM
If I'd written that, then yes, I'd be pretty in awe of myself. It's fabulous.


I want it all to be like that, so I can crawl happily up the arse of my own genius and be safe... :D

If I'd written that, then yes, I'd be pretty in awe of myself. It's fabulous. hehe

Topaz044
05-22-2009, 08:50 AM
I had someone mention that my book is really easy to read because 'my words are so small'.

I feel so fabulous. :)

Tika
05-22-2009, 09:00 AM
You look fabulous dahling ;)

Barb D
05-22-2009, 03:27 PM
I wrote a book! I have migraines every day, usually feel like crap, and needed something to do to make myself creative and productive. Even if it never ever gets published -- I WROTE A BOOK!

Swordswoman
05-22-2009, 03:49 PM
I wrote a book! I have migraines every day, usually feel like crap, and needed something to do to make myself creative and productive. Even if it never ever gets published -- I WROTE A BOOK!

YES, Barb! YES!!! :e2cheer::e2cheer:

One hell of an achievement for anyone (scary how many so-called writers have never actually finished anything!) and to do it with migraines is amazing.
When I finished my first book, my lovely but non-writing husband said 'Oh, good, but you'll be at a bit of a loose end now, won't you?' What I wanted was praise and champagne. So here it is from fellow-travellers - Go, YOU!:e2dance::e2woo::banana::Jump::partyguy::hoora y::snoopy::TheWave:

Louise

scarletpeaches
05-22-2009, 04:10 PM
I wrote a book! I have migraines every day, usually feel like crap, and needed something to do to make myself creative and productive. Even if it never ever gets published -- I WROTE A BOOK!

As someone who regularly gets migraines herself, I have to say bloody well done you. Every day? Good god, I don't know how you managed it. But congratulations! :D

Mr Flibble
05-22-2009, 04:20 PM
Barb, that's amazing. Go you!

I had another author say that she'd 'Totally do Ilfayne'

:D

And I like my reviews too. They say nice things

Does that count?

Oh and when my hubby read my book and came up to me shaking his head. 'I can't believe it was my wife who wrote that' Actually I'm not sure if that's good or bad...Excuse me while I go and find the frying pan.

Wayne K
05-22-2009, 04:58 PM
That first finished MS is a great feeling. Congratulations.

melaniehoo
05-22-2009, 05:12 PM
I'm currently doing close edits on my first novel and yesterday everything seemed to click. I'm so sick of this thing that I don't even want to look at it, yet I was able to change a few things that made me sit back is surprise that I wrote it.

I just hope I can replicate that for the next 27 chapters.

Phaeal
05-22-2009, 06:40 PM
I often get this feeling after a rejection, when I look over the rejected work and say, "Damn, this rocks."

Good thing I like it, anyhow. It gets the MS back out in the mail. ;)

Wayne K
05-22-2009, 07:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2ChXPjyNg]

When I need inspiration I watch this video. I usually hate rap, but when you consider that Eminem was a 5'6" and 110 pound white kid who showed up at clubs in Detroit saying "I can do this.."
They laughed and booed him off stage and he went back for more. He knew he was good at it. His poetry is incredible--take that from a street person.

In the end he repeats what I've heard all my life "You can do anything you set your mind to."

Maybe I was just listening when he said it.

Manix
05-22-2009, 08:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2ChXPjyNg]

When I need inspiration I watch this video. I usually hate rap, but when you consider that Eminem was a 5'6" and 110 pound white kid who showed up at clubs in Detroit saying "I can do this.."
They laughed and booed him off stage and he went back for more. He knew he was good at it. His poetry is incredible--take that from a street person.

In the end he repeats what I've heard all my life "You can do anything you set your mind to."

Maybe I was just listening when he said it.

FREAKING A-to-the-awesome message!!!: "...anything you set your mind to...lose yourself in the music. Don't lose your shot..."

Cranky
05-22-2009, 09:33 PM
I've always loved that Eminem one. :D

That said, I'm with the Ferret. What I love, other people are "meh" about. What I hate, they sometimes really like. I don't know what to think about my writing. I enjoy the process of writing all of it, and most of the time, when I'm finished with the first drafts, I get a little rush. I feel the best about the work before I start editing it. When I edit, I can see the improvements, but I don't get that feeling of, "Wow. That came out completely AWESOME!"

seun
05-22-2009, 10:27 PM
I'm REALLY happy with my story being published in July. There have been a few other pieces that I've been as proud of - usually the stuff unlike my usual work. I sometimes feel the same pride when it comes to intense, emotional situations in my books.

Then I tell myself not to be a big girl's blouse and I kill off some children. :e2chain:

scarletpeaches
05-22-2009, 10:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv2ChXPjyNg]

When I need inspiration I watch this video. I usually hate rap, but when you consider that Eminem was a 5'6" and 110 pound white kid who showed up at clubs in Detroit saying "I can do this.."
They laughed and booed him off stage and he went back for more. He knew he was good at it. His poetry is incredible--take that from a street person.

In the end he repeats what I've heard all my life "You can do anything you set your mind to."

Maybe I was just listening when he said it.

Listen to "Never Enough" - hard to find on YouTube but it's on his Encore album. :D

Chasing the Horizon
05-23-2009, 07:15 AM
I like my work and I'm always proud of it, even if others don't happen to love it.
Me too. I've never understood the way a lot of writers don't seem to like their own work. If I wasn't absolutely in love with my work, I would write something else, or quit all together. It's not like I do this for the money! :rolleyes:

I love that Eminem song too. :D Both of them, actually.

Cranky
05-23-2009, 07:20 AM
Me too. I've never understood the way a lot of writers don't seem to like their own work. If I wasn't absolutely in love with my work, I would write something else, or quit all together. It's not like I do this for the money! :rolleyes:

I love that Eminem song too. :D Both of them, actually.

It's called being self-critical. Too much of a good thing, I guess you could say. I don't do it for the money, and I love writing, too, but I expect perfection or close to it. Unrealistic, sure, but I think it does help me improve. YMMV. Whatever it takes to get words on the page that leaves the writer (and ultimately, the reader) satisified, I say.

C.bronco
05-23-2009, 07:40 AM
I wrote the following, and knew, instinctively, that I'd created the perfect passage:

"She sped maniacally up the Wisconsin Trail, bump-drafting deer and squashing gophers. In her mind, she saw Three over and over. The surgeon said, "He may be left with only a five-pack of abs. We won't know until the swelling goes down." She bit her lip. The worst-case scenario was abominable."

Wayne K
05-23-2009, 03:07 PM
Okay, someone just blew my horn for me (No SP not that) My brother the editor sent me an e-mail response to the three chapters I sent him.

One sentence: "Where did you learn to write like that?"

My response: "Absolute Write."

scarletpeaches
05-23-2009, 04:29 PM
Why do you always assume I will think the dirtiest thought possible?!

thethinker42
05-23-2009, 04:34 PM
Okay, someone just blew my horn for me (No SP not that) My brother the editor sent me an e-mail response to the three chapters I sent him.

One sentence: "Where did you learn to write like that?"

My response: "Absolute Write."

Can I just add here that, having read the book in question, you're a very talented writer?

Seriously folks. It's true.


Why do you always assume I will think the dirtiest thought possible?!

That assumption is about as safe as the assumption that the sun will rise tomorrow morning.